Comments on: Fangraphs now has UZR http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/fangraphs-now-has-uzr/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Tigers are on the prowl . . . for bargains | The Sports Mitten http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/fangraphs-now-has-uzr/#comment-109423 Tigers are on the prowl . . . for bargains | The Sports Mitten Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:59:34 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/fangraphs-now-has-uzr/#comment-109423 [...] Everett’s expert glove was so much better than Renteria’s in 2006 and 2007 that he represented an upgrade of 20-25 runs allowed in each of those [...] [...] Everett’s expert glove was so much better than Renteria’s in 2006 and 2007 that he represented an upgrade of 20-25 runs allowed in each of those [...]

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/fangraphs-now-has-uzr/#comment-109299 Mike R Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:10:48 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/fangraphs-now-has-uzr/#comment-109299 This is amazing. So, so stoked. This is amazing. So, so stoked.

]]> By: thefume http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/fangraphs-now-has-uzr/#comment-109283 thefume Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:07:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/fangraphs-now-has-uzr/#comment-109283 Ramon Santiago was in the negative, Renteria in the positive. I don't really believe that, but it is further support for those who think Santiago's defense isn't as good as it's cracked up to be. Punto was surprisingly good, I'll take him or Everett on the cheap with Santiago. Ramon Santiago was in the negative, Renteria in the positive. I don’t really believe that, but it is further support for those who think Santiago’s defense isn’t as good as it’s cracked up to be.

Punto was surprisingly good, I’ll take him or Everett on the cheap with Santiago.

]]> By: Chuck http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/fangraphs-now-has-uzr/#comment-109279 Chuck Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:40:25 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/fangraphs-now-has-uzr/#comment-109279 Interesting, but as with most other fielding measures it's a rather blunt instrument. I think of fielding skills as just those: skills, and they would be apparent whether a person's UZR is -10, 0 or +10 from year to year. Results don't always tell the story. Otherwise, are we to believe Cesar Izturis had terrible fielding skills three seasons ago, but then acquired them this past season? I think UZR is yet another measure that can be used directionally, in conjunction with other fielding measures, to confirm the existence of skills already observed over time. Good numbers, just not proof positive. Interesting, but as with most other fielding measures it’s a rather blunt instrument. I think of fielding skills as just those: skills, and they would be apparent whether a person’s UZR is -10, 0 or +10 from year to year. Results don’t always tell the story. Otherwise, are we to believe Cesar Izturis had terrible fielding skills three seasons ago, but then acquired them this past season?

I think UZR is yet another measure that can be used directionally, in conjunction with other fielding measures, to confirm the existence of skills already observed over time. Good numbers, just not proof positive.

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