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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/detroit-tigers-weblog-live-121808/#comment-110161</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know is Granderson would&#039;ve caught that ball in the &#039;06 WS if he didn&#039;t slip.  Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know is Granderson would&#8217;ve caught that ball in the &#8216;06 WS if he didn&#8217;t slip.  Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/detroit-tigers-weblog-live-121808/#comment-110160</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good show, gentleman. My knowledge increaseth.

Say, did anyone else takre a look at that &#039;68 WS play video that was up on WHYG, Johnny Grubb recently? I think Northrup was right. Flood wouldn&#039;t have gotten to it even without the stumble. He came across or even slightly in at first on Northrup&#039;s drive, not back at the angle that would have been required to catch it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good show, gentleman. My knowledge increaseth.</p>
<p>Say, did anyone else takre a look at that &#8216;68 WS play video that was up on WHYG, Johnny Grubb recently? I think Northrup was right. Flood wouldn&#8217;t have gotten to it even without the stumble. He came across or even slightly in at first on Northrup&#8217;s drive, not back at the angle that would have been required to catch it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/detroit-tigers-weblog-live-121808/#comment-110158</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife is a German citizen, so I spend a lot of time is Germany drinking various beers.  My favorite is a hefeweizen called Schoefferhofer (as far as I know, it can&#039;t be bought or sent to America...no preservatives).  They sell them in liter bottles in cases of 12 for about 5 euro.  Man I love Germany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife is a German citizen, so I spend a lot of time is Germany drinking various beers.  My favorite is a hefeweizen called Schoefferhofer (as far as I know, it can&#8217;t be bought or sent to America&#8230;no preservatives).  They sell them in liter bottles in cases of 12 for about 5 euro.  Man I love Germany.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Tony (the Tiger?) wins the award for accurately describing the virtues of Blue Moon.  FWIW, their seasonal brew Harvest Moon is mighty fancy as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Tony (the Tiger?) wins the award for accurately describing the virtues of Blue Moon.  FWIW, their seasonal brew Harvest Moon is mighty fancy as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/detroit-tigers-weblog-live-121808/#comment-110156</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blue Moon is a White Belgian Ale, which is a little different than a hefeweizen.  A hefeweizen is a heavy wheat beer from Germany, a true beer as opposed to an ale.  Blue Moon is a light, fresh ale that resembles a german lager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Moon is a White Belgian Ale, which is a little different than a hefeweizen.  A hefeweizen is a heavy wheat beer from Germany, a true beer as opposed to an ale.  Blue Moon is a light, fresh ale that resembles a german lager.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blue Moon is some sort of hefeweizen or somesuch.  Goes well with an orange wedge.  I think I&#039;m going to change my name to &#039;47 lb. Rooster&#039;.  This board needs more wine-related handles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Moon is some sort of hefeweizen or somesuch.  Goes well with an orange wedge.  I think I&#8217;m going to change my name to &#8216;47 lb. Rooster&#8217;.  This board needs more wine-related handles.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/detroit-tigers-weblog-live-121808/#comment-110153</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - Yes, it&#039;s from the wine. Wines are a goldmine for silly nicknames. You&#039;d think there would be more humor in the names of beers, ales, and stouts, but I&#039;m not seeing it.

Anticipating a contest where we get to vote on what billfer drinks during the next DTW Live, I vote for Blue Moon. A Belgian wheat ale (or is it a beer? Can&#039;t remember). Good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; Yes, it&#8217;s from the wine. Wines are a goldmine for silly nicknames. You&#8217;d think there would be more humor in the names of beers, ales, and stouts, but I&#8217;m not seeing it.</p>
<p>Anticipating a contest where we get to vote on what billfer drinks during the next DTW Live, I vote for Blue Moon. A Belgian wheat ale (or is it a beer? Can&#8217;t remember). Good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loon that was good and well thought out. 

Is your name taken from the wine smokin loon? I saw some at the store the other day and I thought maybe thats where you got your nick name

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loon that was good and well thought out. </p>
<p>Is your name taken from the wine smokin loon? I saw some at the store the other day and I thought maybe thats where you got your nick name</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Mr X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t miss the Joyce that hit .163 in September.   He wasn&#039;t the solution for Thames, he was  part of the problem.  

I can&#039;t remember the last time the Tigers had a solid left fielder.  Carlos Guillen might be the best all around player they&#039;ve had there for quite some time.  Only if he were more durable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t miss the Joyce that hit .163 in September.   He wasn&#8217;t the solution for Thames, he was  part of the problem.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember the last time the Tigers had a solid left fielder.  Carlos Guillen might be the best all around player they&#8217;ve had there for quite some time.  Only if he were more durable.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thames has been given the starting LF&#039;s job twice and he lost the job twice.   

As far as I&#039;ve seen, Thames has not been able to stay healthy either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thames has been given the starting LF&#8217;s job twice and he lost the job twice.   </p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;ve seen, Thames has not been able to stay healthy either.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick G</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/detroit-tigers-weblog-live-121808/#comment-110107</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loon, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if Marcus got traded for some single A level hard throwing right hander at some point, and to be honest I&#039;d like to see what he could do in an every day role for the Nationals or the Pirates, etc.  But I also think the Tigers would be stupid to let him go, and would guess that they won&#039;t trade him in the end.  

I think you mean &lt;i&gt;when&lt;/i&gt; Guillen the LF gets injured, don&#039;t you?  Yeah, they&#039;ll move Raburn, Thomas, Clevlen, Perez, whoever to the everyday spot (two days after announcing that Marcus was the everyday LF!)

But really, does it matter who the last guy on the bench is?  The pitching still looks so bad that even the vaunted 2008 lineup that scored 2,721 runs would have trouble contending.  Another $130 million payroll, another fight for the basement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loon, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if Marcus got traded for some single A level hard throwing right hander at some point, and to be honest I&#8217;d like to see what he could do in an every day role for the Nationals or the Pirates, etc.  But I also think the Tigers would be stupid to let him go, and would guess that they won&#8217;t trade him in the end.  </p>
<p>I think you mean <i>when</i> Guillen the LF gets injured, don&#8217;t you?  Yeah, they&#8217;ll move Raburn, Thomas, Clevlen, Perez, whoever to the everyday spot (two days after announcing that Marcus was the everyday LF!)</p>
<p>But really, does it matter who the last guy on the bench is?  The pitching still looks so bad that even the vaunted 2008 lineup that scored 2,721 runs would have trouble contending.  Another $130 million payroll, another fight for the basement.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Leyland seems to have some inexplicable dislike for Marcus, so he will probably be the odd man out.&quot;

Rick, do you mean odd man out as in getting traded at some point during the season? It&#039;s pretty clear that Marcus isn&#039;t going to start, and even if Guillen the LF gets injured, Leyland will find a way to not give Thames LF every day (or maybe even any day). And as others have pointed out, the Joyce trade makes it seem less likely that they&#039;d trade the only proven power on the bench right now. But could he be gone as soon as, say, Thomas was ready to go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Leyland seems to have some inexplicable dislike for Marcus, so he will probably be the odd man out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rick, do you mean odd man out as in getting traded at some point during the season? It&#8217;s pretty clear that Marcus isn&#8217;t going to start, and even if Guillen the LF gets injured, Leyland will find a way to not give Thames LF every day (or maybe even any day). And as others have pointed out, the Joyce trade makes it seem less likely that they&#8217;d trade the only proven power on the bench right now. But could he be gone as soon as, say, Thomas was ready to go?</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/detroit-tigers-weblog-live-121808/#comment-110105</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tigers&#039; bench wouldn&#039;t need to be so thin, if only they could abandon the foolishness of carrying 12 pitchers and a batter who can&#039;t play any position at all.

Thames and Raburn does seem to be the most balanced (offense/defense) choice for the final 2 of the presumed 4 spots, but the lack of any LH power off the bench at all can&#039;t be very appealing to Jim Leyland. If Clevlen is still around and has a tremendous spring, i wonder what happens then. 

&quot;Larish goes IMO, I do not think they will deal Thames&quot;

Do you think they&#039;ll trade Larish, David?

I wonder if the Tigers will bank on Cabrera and Inge being Iron Men at their positions. There is a lot more injury vulnerability in the OF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tigers&#8217; bench wouldn&#8217;t need to be so thin, if only they could abandon the foolishness of carrying 12 pitchers and a batter who can&#8217;t play any position at all.</p>
<p>Thames and Raburn does seem to be the most balanced (offense/defense) choice for the final 2 of the presumed 4 spots, but the lack of any LH power off the bench at all can&#8217;t be very appealing to Jim Leyland. If Clevlen is still around and has a tremendous spring, i wonder what happens then. </p>
<p>&#8220;Larish goes IMO, I do not think they will deal Thames&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you think they&#8217;ll trade Larish, David?</p>
<p>I wonder if the Tigers will bank on Cabrera and Inge being Iron Men at their positions. There is a lot more injury vulnerability in the OF.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking it&#039;s going to be Raburn that doesn&#039;t make the team.  Thames and Larish both provide offense and will be able to pinch hit late in games (when trailing) for the bottom third of the order.  Pinch hit for Inge, put Larish or Guillen at third.  Pinch hit for Everett/Santiago, put Santiago/Everett or Guillen at short.  Pinch hit for Laird, put Mr. Misty May or Inge behind the plate.  Raburn doesn&#039;t seem to provide anything that you can&#039;t get by shuffling the other guys around.

Leyland seems to have some inexplicable dislike for Marcus, so he will probably be the odd man out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking it&#8217;s going to be Raburn that doesn&#8217;t make the team.  Thames and Larish both provide offense and will be able to pinch hit late in games (when trailing) for the bottom third of the order.  Pinch hit for Inge, put Larish or Guillen at third.  Pinch hit for Everett/Santiago, put Santiago/Everett or Guillen at short.  Pinch hit for Laird, put Mr. Misty May or Inge behind the plate.  Raburn doesn&#8217;t seem to provide anything that you can&#8217;t get by shuffling the other guys around.</p>
<p>Leyland seems to have some inexplicable dislike for Marcus, so he will probably be the odd man out.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sometimes I forget Raburn’s even on the team — and he’s my son!&quot;

I detect a heritable traits joke in here somewhere. 

&quot;PS: I hope Smokin Loon gets a new keyboard this year&quot;

Ah, S eve in NY - i had i  all wrong. I  hough   he S eve in Kzoo was  he S eve razzing  e abou  pos ing so of en. I don&#039;  see a new keyboard in  y i  edia e fu ure (hard  i es), but I do have high-speed in erne  a  ho e now, so I expec   o be  earing i  up in  he ga e  hreads co e 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sometimes I forget Raburn’s even on the team — and he’s my son!&#8221;</p>
<p>I detect a heritable traits joke in here somewhere. </p>
<p>&#8220;PS: I hope Smokin Loon gets a new keyboard this year&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, S eve in NY &#8211; i had i  all wrong. I  hough   he S eve in Kzoo was  he S eve razzing  e abou  pos ing so of en. I don&#8217;  see a new keyboard in  y i  edia e fu ure (hard  i es), but I do have high-speed in erne  a  ho e now, so I expec   o be  earing i  up in  he ga e  hreads co e 2009.</p>
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