Comments on: Pounding the zone by count http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/11/pounding-the-zone-by-count/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Smoking Loon http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/11/pounding-the-zone-by-count/#comment-108670 Smoking Loon Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:48:38 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3497#comment-108670 I see that the Tigers led the majors in pitches on 3-2 counts. Since they also walked more batters than any other team in the AL on 3-2, I thought I'd look into (AL) outcomes for this count and look for... well, anything. Correlations, lack thereof. K/BB LAA .910 TOR .894 CHW .848 BOS .804 NYY .782 OAK .729 KCR .717 MIN .710 <b>AL NORM .710</b> TBR .708 TEX .656 CLE .641 SEA .610 DET .545 BAL .514 K% BOS 25.5 TOR 25.3 CHW 24.5 LAA 24.4 NYY 24.4 OAK 23.3 TBR 22.3 <b>AL NORM 22.0</b> KCR 21.3 SEA 20.8 MIN 20.6 TEX 20.2 CLE 18.9 DET 18.8 BAL 18.3 BB% LAA 26.8 TOR 28.3 CHW 28.9 MIN 29.0 CLE 29.5 KCR 29.7 OAK 30.6 NYY 30.7 TEX 30.8 <b>AL NORM 31.0</b> TBR 31.5 BOS 31.7 SEA 34.1 DET 34.5 BAL 35.6 BATTED BALL% CLE 51.6 MIN 50.4 TEX 49.0 KCR 49.0 LAA 48.8 <b>AL NORM 47.0</b> DET 46.7 CHW 46.7 TOR 46.4 TBR 46.2 BAL 46.1 OAK 46.1 NYY 45.3 SEA 45.1 BOS 42.8 BABIP TBR .276 CHW .285 LAA .292 OAK .294 SEA .295 KCR .296 MIN .301 DET .305 <b>AL NORM .305</b> (probably not exact) TEX .309 TOR .313 CLE .315 BOS .325 BAL .331 NYY .332 PA/HR LAA 87.9 BOS 78.5 OAK 68.0 CHW 67.1 KCR 59.6 <b>AL NORM 49.0</b> DET 48.8 TEX 48.1 NYY 44.8 TOR 44.1 SEA 43.3 TBR 42.2 CLE 41.8 BAL 38.6 MIN 35.1 I see that the Tigers led the majors in pitches on 3-2 counts. Since they also walked more batters than any other team in the AL on 3-2, I thought I’d look into (AL) outcomes for this count and look for… well, anything. Correlations, lack thereof.

K/BB

LAA .910
TOR .894
CHW .848
BOS .804
NYY .782
OAK .729
KCR .717
MIN .710
AL NORM .710
TBR .708
TEX .656
CLE .641
SEA .610
DET .545
BAL .514

K%

BOS 25.5
TOR 25.3
CHW 24.5
LAA 24.4
NYY 24.4
OAK 23.3
TBR 22.3
AL NORM 22.0
KCR 21.3
SEA 20.8
MIN 20.6
TEX 20.2
CLE 18.9
DET 18.8
BAL 18.3

BB%

LAA 26.8
TOR 28.3
CHW 28.9
MIN 29.0
CLE 29.5
KCR 29.7
OAK 30.6
NYY 30.7
TEX 30.8
AL NORM 31.0
TBR 31.5
BOS 31.7
SEA 34.1
DET 34.5
BAL 35.6

BATTED BALL%

CLE 51.6
MIN 50.4
TEX 49.0
KCR 49.0
LAA 48.8
AL NORM 47.0
DET 46.7
CHW 46.7
TOR 46.4
TBR 46.2
BAL 46.1
OAK 46.1
NYY 45.3
SEA 45.1
BOS 42.8

BABIP

TBR .276
CHW .285
LAA .292
OAK .294
SEA .295
KCR .296
MIN .301
DET .305
AL NORM .305 (probably not exact)
TEX .309
TOR .313
CLE .315
BOS .325
BAL .331
NYY .332

PA/HR

LAA 87.9
BOS 78.5
OAK 68.0
CHW 67.1
KCR 59.6
AL NORM 49.0
DET 48.8
TEX 48.1
NYY 44.8
TOR 44.1
SEA 43.3
TBR 42.2
CLE 41.8
BAL 38.6
MIN 35.1

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/11/pounding-the-zone-by-count/#comment-108651 Mark in Chicago Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:52:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3497#comment-108651 not sure where this comment belongs, but this seems like the place for it. sorry billfer if you'd rather it be somewhere else. according to mlbtraderumors, the Giants signed Jeremy Affeldt for 2 years, $8 million. It's a little disappointing not to see DD out after this guy. He could have closed (he allegedly wants to), $4 million per is a reasonable cost, and DD could have even attached an option year to sweeten the deal. All this would have cost a supplemental pick, as Affeldt was type B. Obviously, I have no idea if DD was in the mix or not, and maybe he doesn't think Affeldt can close. But I firmly believe that Affeldt would have taken a closing gig in a good pitcher's park if it was offered to him. This is exactly the type of guy we should be looking at. not sure where this comment belongs, but this seems like the place for it. sorry billfer if you’d rather it be somewhere else.

according to mlbtraderumors, the Giants signed Jeremy Affeldt for 2 years, $8 million. It’s a little disappointing not to see DD out after this guy. He could have closed (he allegedly wants to), $4 million per is a reasonable cost, and DD could have even attached an option year to sweeten the deal. All this would have cost a supplemental pick, as Affeldt was type B.

Obviously, I have no idea if DD was in the mix or not, and maybe he doesn’t think Affeldt can close. But I firmly believe that Affeldt would have taken a closing gig in a good pitcher’s park if it was offered to him. This is exactly the type of guy we should be looking at.

]]> By: Eric Cioe http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/11/pounding-the-zone-by-count/#comment-108641 Eric Cioe Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:13:20 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3497#comment-108641 Interesting stuff. I was surprised to see that Arizona wasn't higher than it was. Webb, Haren, and Johnson put up 600 innings of outstanding ball for them this year, and all three of them (especially Johnson and Haren) pound the zone. Maybe the bullpen dragged the stats down for them a little bit. Another interesting table I'd like to see - pitches by count. Do three categories - fastballs (4FB, 2FB, CFB), breaking balls (CRV, SLD, SCR), and offspeed pitches (CHG, CRC, and SPT). I'd be really curious to see who throws the most fastballs, who pitches backwards the most, etc. Interesting stuff.

I was surprised to see that Arizona wasn’t higher than it was. Webb, Haren, and Johnson put up 600 innings of outstanding ball for them this year, and all three of them (especially Johnson and Haren) pound the zone. Maybe the bullpen dragged the stats down for them a little bit.

Another interesting table I’d like to see – pitches by count. Do three categories – fastballs (4FB, 2FB, CFB), breaking balls (CRV, SLD, SCR), and offspeed pitches (CHG, CRC, and SPT). I’d be really curious to see who throws the most fastballs, who pitches backwards the most, etc.

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