Comments on: Hitting em where they ain’t http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/11/hitting-em-where-they-aint/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Youth Baseball Parks Blog » Blog Archive » Finding the Holes http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/11/hitting-em-where-they-aint/#comment-109089 Youth Baseball Parks Blog » Blog Archive » Finding the Holes Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:06:56 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3558#comment-109089 [...] Billfer tries to explain the poor defense behind Nate Robertson and decides that batters were just very good at hitting balls in holes against the Tigers pitcher. [...] [...] Billfer tries to explain the poor defense behind Nate Robertson and decides that batters were just very good at hitting balls in holes against the Tigers pitcher. [...]

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/11/hitting-em-where-they-aint/#comment-109080 Mike R Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:25:48 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3558#comment-109080 Nate Rob actually had solid peripherals for the first 3rd of the season or thereabouts. Then the wheels fell off. Couple that with bad luck and you have a LHP with high 80's FB, loss of control, and a demotion to the bullpen on a team that was a disappointment. He kind of sums up the Tigers season in a nutshell. Nate Rob actually had solid peripherals for the first 3rd of the season or thereabouts. Then the wheels fell off. Couple that with bad luck and you have a LHP with high 80′s FB, loss of control, and a demotion to the bullpen on a team that was a disappointment. He kind of sums up the Tigers season in a nutshell.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/11/hitting-em-where-they-aint/#comment-109074 David Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:17:18 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3558#comment-109074 Billfer my thought to Nate's struggles Maybe it's a combo of "hit 'em where they ain't" and very hard hit liners/grounders/fast moving flies on average Since besides Inge I don't think we have any great instincts fielder that might be the case. Just think about it - usually the only reason a fielder can't field a ball is he can't get to where the ball is hit fast enough, or it is hit too fast for him to get there in time - which are kind of one in the same... Hmmm.... I don't know how to explain what I'm trying to say(in response) in an awesome way but I'll try anyway Lets just say he was hit hard...hit too hard...and too often...for most of the time... not allowing fielders to react in a manner conducive to obtaining an out relative to other Major League pitchers Maybe that will suffice? maybe not... Still I hope he's pulls a Cliff Lee and is doing pull ups between trees in the woods right now ;) Billfer my thought to Nate’s struggles

Maybe it’s a combo of “hit ‘em where they ain’t” and very hard hit liners/grounders/fast moving flies on average

Since besides Inge I don’t think we have any great instincts fielder that might be the case.

Just think about it – usually the only reason a fielder can’t field a ball is he can’t get to where the ball is hit fast enough, or it is hit too fast for him to get there in time – which are kind of one in the same…

Hmmm…. I don’t know how to explain what I’m trying to say(in response) in an awesome way but I’ll try anyway

Lets just say he was hit hard…hit too hard…and too often…for most of the time… not allowing fielders to react in a manner conducive to obtaining an out relative to other Major League pitchers

Maybe that will suffice? maybe not…

Still I hope he’s pulls a Cliff Lee and is doing pull ups between trees in the woods right now ;)

]]> By: jvwalt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/11/hitting-em-where-they-aint/#comment-109072 jvwalt Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:53:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3558#comment-109072 It would be interesting (but not interesting enough for me to do it) to see if good pitchers tend to have good DERs, and poor pitchers poor DERs. Untested theory: Assume that defensive positioning is related to what a pitcher throws and what location he's aiming for. A reasonable assumption, I think. With that assumption in mind: a good pitcher is more likely to hit his spots. A batter is, thus, more likely to hit the ball where a fielder is positioned. Whereas a poor pitcher is more likely to miss his spots, and the ball might go anywhere. In short: against a bad pitcher, a hitter is more likely to "hit 'em where they ain't," even if you leave "over the fence" out of the equation. I have no proof, it's just a thought. It would be interesting (but not interesting enough for me to do it) to see if good pitchers tend to have good DERs, and poor pitchers poor DERs. Untested theory:

Assume that defensive positioning is related to what a pitcher throws and what location he’s aiming for. A reasonable assumption, I think.

With that assumption in mind: a good pitcher is more likely to hit his spots. A batter is, thus, more likely to hit the ball where a fielder is positioned. Whereas a poor pitcher is more likely to miss his spots, and the ball might go anywhere. In short: against a bad pitcher, a hitter is more likely to “hit ‘em where they ain’t,” even if you leave “over the fence” out of the equation.

I have no proof, it’s just a thought.

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