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	<title>Comments on: Why Maggs will be a Tiger next year</title>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/why-maggs-will-be-a-tiger-next-year/#comment-105957</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer the above &quot;cartoon characters&quot; all of whom we know in real life as opposed to Batman, Ironman... who only exist in the heads of  addled, macho wannabes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the above &#8220;cartoon characters&#8221; all of whom we know in real life as opposed to Batman, Ironman&#8230; who only exist in the heads of  addled, macho wannabes.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/why-maggs-will-be-a-tiger-next-year/#comment-105955</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Girardi could be Dick Tracy; Lou Pinella, Sarge in Beetle Bailey; Torre, Garfield and Jimmy, Dagwood BUMstead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Girardi could be Dick Tracy; Lou Pinella, Sarge in Beetle Bailey; Torre, Garfield and Jimmy, Dagwood BUMstead.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/why-maggs-will-be-a-tiger-next-year/#comment-105949</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Animated characters are clearly underrepresented in MLB. It&#039;s about time a player or manager came along to break the actuality barrier. While it&#039;s true there are number of dead and even undead guys in MLB, including the commisioner - and good for them (you go, zombies) - that&#039;s not the same thing. Cartoon managers would add a dimension of fun that&#039;s been missing from the game since, oh, July 30 or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Animated characters are clearly underrepresented in MLB. It&#8217;s about time a player or manager came along to break the actuality barrier. While it&#8217;s true there are number of dead and even undead guys in MLB, including the commisioner &#8211; and good for them (you go, zombies) &#8211; that&#8217;s not the same thing. Cartoon managers would add a dimension of fun that&#8217;s been missing from the game since, oh, July 30 or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/why-maggs-will-be-a-tiger-next-year/#comment-105947</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m OK with that, but the only name I&#039;ve come up with so far is Homer Simpson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m OK with that, but the only name I&#8217;ve come up with so far is Homer Simpson.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/why-maggs-will-be-a-tiger-next-year/#comment-105942</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of a rebuilding recipe, can we mix in a new manager to give the team a little zestier flavor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of a rebuilding recipe, can we mix in a new manager to give the team a little zestier flavor?</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/why-maggs-will-be-a-tiger-next-year/#comment-105938</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, I should have clarified that I meant &quot;production for the Tigers&quot; regarding any comparison with Ordonez. I&#039;m sure a number of guys in MLB have outclassed Magglio 2006-2008, though not &lt;i&gt;too&lt;/i&gt; many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, I should have clarified that I meant &#8220;production for the Tigers&#8221; regarding any comparison with Ordonez. I&#8217;m sure a number of guys in MLB have outclassed Magglio 2006-2008, though not <i>too</i> many.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Cioe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Cioe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cabrera&#039;s production over the past 3 seasons is pretty comparable to Ordonez&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cabrera&#8217;s production over the past 3 seasons is pretty comparable to Ordonez&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/why-maggs-will-be-a-tiger-next-year/#comment-105933</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was awesome, Ron. 

I don&#039;t want Ordonez traded, not even for a top-notch starting pitcher. No one comes close to Magglio&#039;s production over the past 3 seasons. That would be a huge hole to fill. Yes, it would be nice to see more of an emphasis on pitching and defense, but I don&#039;t think the Tigers need to become the Angels to achieve similar results. They just need to get it all together with consistency like any contender does. There&#039;s no exact recipe for that. But letting go of a cornerstone is part of a rebuilding recipe, not a retooling one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was awesome, Ron. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want Ordonez traded, not even for a top-notch starting pitcher. No one comes close to Magglio&#8217;s production over the past 3 seasons. That would be a huge hole to fill. Yes, it would be nice to see more of an emphasis on pitching and defense, but I don&#8217;t think the Tigers need to become the Angels to achieve similar results. They just need to get it all together with consistency like any contender does. There&#8217;s no exact recipe for that. But letting go of a cornerstone is part of a rebuilding recipe, not a retooling one.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is no illusion nor delusion we need a transfusion at season&#039;s conclusion and a cessation without hesitation of our present rotation and a resolution to find a solution to improve the club&#039;s constitution resulting in felicitation, invigoration, elation and good sensation instead of consternation, vexation, dejection and  humiliation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is no illusion nor delusion we need a transfusion at season&#8217;s conclusion and a cessation without hesitation of our present rotation and a resolution to find a solution to improve the club&#8217;s constitution resulting in felicitation, invigoration, elation and good sensation instead of consternation, vexation, dejection and  humiliation.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trading Maggs would hurt the offense for sure. But, as Leyland has pointed out, Granderson is ready to move to the middle of the order. I&#039;d like to see him bat third, Miggy clean up and Guillen fifth.

My hope is that the they sign Orlando Carbrerra for SS and bat him lead off.

I think the Tigers need to take a long look at Sheffield in Spring Training too. If he doesn&#039;t come in dialed in and ready to put up better numbers, release him. Eat the friggin money. If he can&#039;t hit at a better level, he has zero value. Give some of the young outfielders a shot and let Guillen DH full-time. Give Hessman a shot, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trading Maggs would hurt the offense for sure. But, as Leyland has pointed out, Granderson is ready to move to the middle of the order. I&#8217;d like to see him bat third, Miggy clean up and Guillen fifth.</p>
<p>My hope is that the they sign Orlando Carbrerra for SS and bat him lead off.</p>
<p>I think the Tigers need to take a long look at Sheffield in Spring Training too. If he doesn&#8217;t come in dialed in and ready to put up better numbers, release him. Eat the friggin money. If he can&#8217;t hit at a better level, he has zero value. Give some of the young outfielders a shot and let Guillen DH full-time. Give Hessman a shot, too.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the idea is to trade Maggs for pitching help, not prospects. His contract might make that difficult, but I think the Tigers need to explore the idea. 

The Tigers can not go into next season with this pitching staff and expect better results. Who knows if Bonderman, Willis or Freddy Garcia will be able to contribute at all. Nobody knows what, if anything, we&#039;ll get from Galaraga or Robertson next year. Rogers is sure to retire. And that&#039;s not to mention the mess in the bullpen.

Trade Maggs for a No. 2 or 3 starter, if you can.

I don&#039;t think the pitching staff can be totally fixed in one off-season. The best they can hope for is to acquire a solid starter via trade or free agency and hope that enough of the guys listed above bounce back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea is to trade Maggs for pitching help, not prospects. His contract might make that difficult, but I think the Tigers need to explore the idea. </p>
<p>The Tigers can not go into next season with this pitching staff and expect better results. Who knows if Bonderman, Willis or Freddy Garcia will be able to contribute at all. Nobody knows what, if anything, we&#8217;ll get from Galaraga or Robertson next year. Rogers is sure to retire. And that&#8217;s not to mention the mess in the bullpen.</p>
<p>Trade Maggs for a No. 2 or 3 starter, if you can.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the pitching staff can be totally fixed in one off-season. The best they can hope for is to acquire a solid starter via trade or free agency and hope that enough of the guys listed above bounce back.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;unless another team is really dumb&quot;

It&#039;s too bad Isiah isn&#039;t still with the Knicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;unless another team is really dumb&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad Isiah isn&#8217;t still with the Knicks.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave BW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave BW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Chris, but you would also cut Justin Verlander in the offseason and would have released Cabrera in May.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Chris, but you would also cut Justin Verlander in the offseason and would have released Cabrera in May.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tigers aren&#039;t going to contend in &#039;09 with any team that remotely resembles this year&#039;s roster. I would trade Magglio for nothing just to get rid of the contract, if I were DD. This team needs to rebuild and restructure payrole in order to contend in &#039;10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tigers aren&#8217;t going to contend in &#8216;09 with any team that remotely resembles this year&#8217;s roster. I would trade Magglio for nothing just to get rid of the contract, if I were DD. This team needs to rebuild and restructure payrole in order to contend in &#8216;10.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince in MN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince in MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggs&#039; contract may be too big to create much interest from other clubs, that is true. The Tigers also have a few players who&#039;s big (relatively speaking) contracts will create absolutley NO interest for 2 or 3 more years. The fact that they have a boatload of overpaid players makes the necessary changes more difficult to achieve, but they still have to be made. 

Anybody that thinks they can run this gloppy mess out on the field unchanged in &#039;09 and get significantly improved results is living in Bizarro World. If eating salary is part of what it takes to get better, then they will have to do just that. This over-hyped product may have succeeded in overflowing Illitch&#039;s pockets with greenbacks this year, but I seriously doubt the folks that were duped this time around are going to buy it again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggs&#8217; contract may be too big to create much interest from other clubs, that is true. The Tigers also have a few players who&#8217;s big (relatively speaking) contracts will create absolutley NO interest for 2 or 3 more years. The fact that they have a boatload of overpaid players makes the necessary changes more difficult to achieve, but they still have to be made. </p>
<p>Anybody that thinks they can run this gloppy mess out on the field unchanged in &#8216;09 and get significantly improved results is living in Bizarro World. If eating salary is part of what it takes to get better, then they will have to do just that. This over-hyped product may have succeeded in overflowing Illitch&#8217;s pockets with greenbacks this year, but I seriously doubt the folks that were duped this time around are going to buy it again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.</p>
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