Comments on: Verlander and Leyland do lots of talking, and Hernandez chimes in http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:11:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Smoking Loon http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105506 Smoking Loon Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:09:58 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105506 Hey, we're <i>not ducks</i>. Ya got that, pal? Don't make me tell you twice. A quick crumb? Dude, we eat fish. Even Paul Foytack knew that, which is probably why he had such a tremendous K/BB ratio, versus both live batters and mirrors. Man oh man, Ron, if I didn't know better, I'd swear you were a loonophobe or something. Hey, we’re not ducks. Ya got that, pal? Don’t make me tell you twice.

A quick crumb? Dude, we eat fish. Even Paul Foytack knew that, which is probably why he had such a tremendous K/BB ratio, versus both live batters and mirrors.

Man oh man, Ron, if I didn’t know better, I’d swear you were a loonophobe or something.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105442 ron Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:17:23 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105442 Smoking Loon, Back to Wikipedia, I see that Mercer. Wisconsin BILLS itself "Loon Capital of the World". You may want to land there for a quick crumb during your next migration north. Smoking Loon, Back to Wikipedia, I see that Mercer. Wisconsin BILLS itself “Loon Capital of the World”. You may want to land there for a quick crumb during your next migration north.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105440 ron Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:54:40 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105440 By the way, when is Loon season? By the way, when is Loon season?

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105439 ron Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:48:56 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105439 Smoking Loon, Amanda might be able to put you out of your misery. Smoking Loon, Amanda might be able to put you out of your misery.

]]> By: Smoking Loon http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105438 Smoking Loon Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:34:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105438 Don't I know it, Ron. Thanks to the 2008 Tigers, I went from a healthy middle-aged man to an aquatic bird of ancient lineage with a nicotine habit virtually overnight. Don't throw food. People are starving in China. Also, you might put an eye out. And don't make faces at me, or your face might freeze like that. Don’t I know it, Ron. Thanks to the 2008 Tigers, I went from a healthy middle-aged man to an aquatic bird of ancient lineage with a nicotine habit virtually overnight.

Don’t throw food. People are starving in China. Also, you might put an eye out. And don’t make faces at me, or your face might freeze like that.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105437 ron Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:24:37 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105437 Smoking Loon, the ineffectiveness of the team this year has probly caused some health problems among the fans too. I know my acid reflux is worse on game days. Smoking Loon, the ineffectiveness of the team this year has probly caused some health problems among the fans too. I know my acid reflux is worse on game days.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105436 ron Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:20:04 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105436 I didn't mean to throw the apple. It was just a prop, but it slipped out of my hand when my back leg gave out slipping off the cat's bed, which I was using as the rubber. I didn’t mean to throw the apple. It was just a prop, but it slipped out of my hand when my back leg gave out slipping off the cat’s bed, which I was using as the rubber.

]]> By: Smoking Loon http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105435 Smoking Loon Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:19:42 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105435 "In an interview Saturday, Rogers refused to acknowledge he has a hip problem, perhaps not to make it seem he's using health issues as an excuse." Perhaps not to go along with obvious bullcrap. He's being pulled from the rotation because he's stunk for quite a while now, and I'm pretty sure he knows it, even if he won't say so. Almost every time a Tigers pitcher has become ineffective in 2008, suddenly there's a health problem, often a retroactive one. Uh-huh. “In an interview Saturday, Rogers refused to acknowledge he has a hip problem, perhaps not to make it seem he’s using health issues as an excuse.”

Perhaps not to go along with obvious bullcrap. He’s being pulled from the rotation because he’s stunk for quite a while now, and I’m pretty sure he knows it, even if he won’t say so.

Almost every time a Tigers pitcher has become ineffective in 2008, suddenly there’s a health problem, often a retroactive one. Uh-huh.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105433 ron Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:09:13 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105433 Vince, forgot about Fox. Wikipedia has a great bio on him and another Terry Fox, a runner from Canada. Vince, forgot about Fox. Wikipedia has a great bio on him and another Terry Fox, a runner from Canada.

]]> By: Smoking Loon http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105429 Smoking Loon Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:38:35 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105429 Well, Vince, I could have looked Foytack up and pretended to know. Of course I know who Terry Fox and Don Mossi are. They're, um, they used to... hold on, page is still loading. Well, Vince, I could have looked Foytack up and pretended to know.

Of course I know who Terry Fox and Don Mossi are. They’re, um, they used to… hold on, page is still loading.

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105428 Vince in MN Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:33:25 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105428 Loon, for shame not to know who Paul Foytack is. And I suppose you have never heard of Terry Fox or Don Mossi either. Loon, for shame not to know who Paul Foytack is. And I suppose you have never heard of Terry Fox or Don Mossi either.

]]> By: Smoking Loon http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105427 Smoking Loon Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:43:22 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105427 Who's Paul Foytack, Ron? I don't want to spoil the joke, so just whisper it to me. How are the apple and the mirror doing? Sounds like you threw a strike, so you might be on to something there. Who’s Paul Foytack, Ron? I don’t want to spoil the joke, so just whisper it to me.

How are the apple and the mirror doing? Sounds like you threw a strike, so you might be on to something there.

]]> By: ivantopumpyouup http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105425 ivantopumpyouup Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:32:07 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105425 Oh no, not another person on the "Fire Chuck Hernandez!" bandwagon. I think at this point, I'm just being contrary. :/ Oh no, not another person on the “Fire Chuck Hernandez!” bandwagon. I think at this point, I’m just being contrary. :/

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105423 ron Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:37:28 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105423 I've been looking at JV's pitching motion frame by frame also and in between frames 213 and 214, a ghostly figure I believed to be Paul Foytack appeared. I dunno? Anyways, trying to emulate JV, I threw an apple through the living room mirror. It's not as easy as it looks and now my deltoid is acting up. I’ve been looking at JV’s pitching motion frame by frame also and in between frames 213 and 214, a ghostly figure I believed to be Paul Foytack appeared. I dunno? Anyways, trying to emulate JV, I threw an apple through the living room mirror. It’s not as easy as it looks and now my deltoid is acting up.

]]> By: thefume http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105419 thefume Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:19:54 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/verlander-and-leyland-do-lots-of-talking-and-hernandez-chimes-in/#comment-105419 it looks like the only major difference that you can see on the frame-by-frame is the follow-thru, on his 89 mph fastball it seems like he drove more vertically while on the 99 mph fastball he rotated more horizontally. whether this is a cause (the ground is essentially absorbing momentum because he's driving too much downhill) or effect (caused simply by faster shoulder rotation) or small sample size or none of the above (i have no idea what i'm talking about) is up for debate. it looks like the only major difference that you can see on the frame-by-frame is the follow-thru, on his 89 mph fastball it seems like he drove more vertically while on the 99 mph fastball he rotated more horizontally. whether this is a cause (the ground is essentially absorbing momentum because he’s driving too much downhill) or effect (caused simply by faster shoulder rotation) or small sample size or none of the above (i have no idea what i’m talking about) is up for debate.

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