Comments on: Most homers allowed by a reliever

By: greg

greg — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:58:46 +0000

LOL, obviously not talking about Pudge, he was CONSISTENT when he was on them.

Funny comeback though.

By: Smoking Loon

Smoking Loon — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:39:40 +0000

Hey, with Pudge gone, we’re getting a look at Dusty Ryan, and I like what I’m seeing so far.

By: Dave BW

Dave BW — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:37:05 +0000

Yeah, greg, I had the same question

By: Smoking Loon

Smoking Loon — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:34:05 +0000

“a washed up has-been that’s no longer on illegal performance enhancers, and was inconsistent even when he was on them”

Hmmm. Are you describing Farnsworth or Pudge here, Greg?

By: greg

greg — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:27:47 +0000

Chief – yes, I know Pudge ‘made’ the trade happen. That’s part of the problem, the inmates are running this asylum. They’re way to coddled IMO. What Pudge wants shouldn’t be DD’s top priority, it should be what’s best for the organization. Putting Pudge’s demand above all else is a huge red flag in my opinion. Giving Pudge away for a washed up has-been that’s no longer on illegal performance enhancers, and was inconsistent even when he was on them, that’s not a good move.

It was a low % play and its no surprise it didn’t work out.

By: Chief Monday

Chief Monday — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:04:29 +0000

Pudge made the trade happen!!!
He was complaining about losing playing time to Inge, plus he had a no trade clause. It was a deal just to satisfy Pudge and both teams. There really were no winners. Pudge failed, the Yankees failed, Farnsworth failed, and the Tigers failed.

If Farnsworth stepped in and did what he did a few years ago when he was with the Tigers, then this wouldn’t even be a conversation.

By: greg

greg — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:41:16 +0000

I am second guessing the trade, Pudge the catcher was an asset to the team and the pitching staff, not to mention the face of the franchise since the Tiger’s rise to respectability, to dump him for Farnsworth was a bad move. DD is a good GM, but this was a bad move IMO.

Losing Pudge wasn’t the only problem, but the Tiger’s downward spiral accelerated noticeably after Pudge’s departure. Even if Pudge leaves anyway in 2009, its still bad, you’ve GOT to demand more to let someone with his track record go. In my opinion they just gave him away. If they’d kept him they would at least have gotten some sort of compensation for him leaving. Instead, in return for Pudge, they received the last few nails in the coffin for the 2008 season. That’s not a good return. And no, it’s not surprising that Farnsy has pitched like this.

By: Smoking Loon

Smoking Loon — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:13:54 +0000

“We got the arms that could make a very good bullpen.”

That’s true. A total bullpen overhaul won’t necessarily solve anything. Gotta guess who to hold and who to fold.

I’m not sure Kyle Farnsworth really wants to be a Detroit Tiger. I can’t say how that would affect a guy’s performance. I still assume – perhaps naively – that players at the MLB level are almost always playing to win no matter what.

By: Chief Monday

Chief Monday — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:09:33 +0000

Farnsworth is just another victim in the Tigers pen. Nobody on this team has been mentally prepared to pitch in the late innings. IMO, these pitchers fear to be the next Grilli or Todd Jones and that’s what’s keeping them from excelling in pressure situations. Call it a loser mentality if you like.

We got the arms that could make a very good bullpen. They just haven’t had the confidence and mentality that they need. Winning and success is about the only thing that can help fix their fractured ego’s.

By: Smoking Loon

Smoking Loon — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:38:09 +0000

“DD made a move to try to improve.” (rhymes!)

Yes. Too bad about the results (Farnsworth’s performance), but I’m not second-guessing the trade.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:21:04 +0000

So if Farns has pitched his way out of being even a type-B, why not just cut him?

By: Jeff

Jeff — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:21:31 +0000

No fan of Farnsworth, but Pudge was not a “hall-of-fame” caliber catcher at the time of trade. Pudge was not going to be a Tiger in ‘09; the bullpen was in dire straits. DD made a move to try to improve.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:53:57 +0000

I have no idea how any of those other relief pitchers mentioned made their way to their respective teams.

But I’m going to guess it did NOT involve a straight-up trade for a hall-of-fame catcher.

By: Nick

Nick — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:04:41 +0000

Wasn’t Doug Bochtler the guy that was also a semi-professional magician?

By: rings

rings — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:25:17 +0000

One of my friends was a Joe Boever fan…still throws the palmball durng warmups for softball games. LOL! (Incidentally…it doesn’t work so good for him either.)