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	<title>Comments on: Game 150:  Tigers at Rangers</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin in Austin (now Dallas)</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/game-150-tigers-at-rangers/#comment-106187</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin in Austin (now Dallas)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris in Dallas - I&#039;m with you.  I feel that they don&#039;t try to hard (a la Rod Allen) and they don&#039;t interfere with the game.  Lewin is a professional, and Grieve is that nice next door neighbor who will sit down and talk to you about anything and never let on that he knows 10X more than you do about the game.

Now Knoxie...he&#039;s my favorite local personality of them all.  Remind me to tell you some stories about him if we ever run into each other at a Tiger&#039;s playoff party in 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris in Dallas &#8211; I&#8217;m with you.  I feel that they don&#8217;t try to hard (a la Rod Allen) and they don&#8217;t interfere with the game.  Lewin is a professional, and Grieve is that nice next door neighbor who will sit down and talk to you about anything and never let on that he knows 10X more than you do about the game.</p>
<p>Now Knoxie&#8230;he&#8217;s my favorite local personality of them all.  Remind me to tell you some stories about him if we ever run into each other at a Tiger&#8217;s playoff party in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/game-150-tigers-at-rangers/#comment-106186</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Granderson and .300, yeah, that would be nice. It&#039;s funny, but the difference between a .299 and .300 BA must be the most significant yet overrated 1/1000th in all of sports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Granderson and .300, yeah, that would be nice. It&#8217;s funny, but the difference between a .299 and .300 BA must be the most significant yet overrated 1/1000th in all of sports.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/game-150-tigers-at-rangers/#comment-106185</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Chris - have you been at the last 2 games against the Rangers? I had forgotten that you mentioned you were going to be going a while back - or did I imagine that? Maybe I&#039;m only remembering what you said about seeing Sheffield on a HR tear there in Texas last June.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Chris &#8211; have you been at the last 2 games against the Rangers? I had forgotten that you mentioned you were going to be going a while back &#8211; or did I imagine that? Maybe I&#8217;m only remembering what you said about seeing Sheffield on a HR tear there in Texas last June.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin:  The Rangers broadcast guys are among the best crews in the league, if you ask me.

Loon:  Yeah, Granderson has been having a rough time of it lately.  Generally when he has a slump like this, he seems to make up for it with an equally impressive hot streak.  Hopefully there&#039;s enough games left for that to happen.  I&#039;d like to see him hit .300 again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin:  The Rangers broadcast guys are among the best crews in the league, if you ask me.</p>
<p>Loon:  Yeah, Granderson has been having a rough time of it lately.  Generally when he has a slump like this, he seems to make up for it with an equally impressive hot streak.  Hopefully there&#8217;s enough games left for that to happen.  I&#8217;d like to see him hit .300 again.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/game-150-tigers-at-rangers/#comment-106173</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granderson in the last 7 games: 1 HR, 1 single, 2 walks, 10 K in 34 PA. .063/.118/.156/.274. 1 RBI, 2 R. Hasn&#039;t reached base in 4 of 7 starts. Pretty drastic mini-slump.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granderson in the last 7 games: 1 HR, 1 single, 2 walks, 10 K in 34 PA. .063/.118/.156/.274. 1 RBI, 2 R. Hasn&#8217;t reached base in 4 of 7 starts. Pretty drastic mini-slump.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/game-150-tigers-at-rangers/#comment-106171</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What do you guys think the chances that Sheff retires when he gets to 500 HR?&quot;

Roughly zero, Walt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What do you guys think the chances that Sheff retires when he gets to 500 HR?&#8221;</p>
<p>Roughly zero, Walt.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin in Austin (now Dallas)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin in Austin (now Dallas)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick correction Andy - it&#039;s Tom Grieve (and Josh Lewin).  The only reason why I do this is because Tom Grieve is Mr. Ranger and really is one of the good guys.  Ben was his overhyped son who won RoY and then fell off the face of the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick correction Andy &#8211; it&#8217;s Tom Grieve (and Josh Lewin).  The only reason why I do this is because Tom Grieve is Mr. Ranger and really is one of the good guys.  Ben was his overhyped son who won RoY and then fell off the face of the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/game-150-tigers-at-rangers/#comment-106163</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FSN Telecast with Ben Grieve and Josh Lewellen showed the replay and Josh said, &quot;Well, it looks like it was a strike after all&quot;. They have the pitch track on and it had all of the ball in the strike zone.

Of course, Rodney stinks, but the first out of the inning changes most innings, except of course, if you are a Tiger and a reliever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FSN Telecast with Ben Grieve and Josh Lewellen showed the replay and Josh said, &#8220;Well, it looks like it was a strike after all&#8221;. They have the pitch track on and it had all of the ball in the strike zone.</p>
<p>Of course, Rodney stinks, but the first out of the inning changes most innings, except of course, if you are a Tiger and a reliever.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;other pitches called strikes&quot;

Oh, I see there was only one &lt;i&gt;called&lt;/i&gt; strike. Clearly, though, according to GameDay, pitches #1 (the called strike) and #6 were practically in the same location. The sportsline.com chart is quite different overall, as expected. Pitches #1 and #6 are widely separated there, with #6 shown as being at the low edge of the strike zone and catching the very corner of the plate at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;other pitches called strikes&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, I see there was only one <i>called</i> strike. Clearly, though, according to GameDay, pitches #1 (the called strike) and #6 were practically in the same location. The sportsline.com chart is quite different overall, as expected. Pitches #1 and #6 are widely separated there, with #6 shown as being at the low edge of the strike zone and catching the very corner of the plate at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoking Loon</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/game-150-tigers-at-rangers/#comment-106143</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoking Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike R.

At first I didn&#039;t get that the orange text in your 12:35 AM post was a link. I thought it was just emphasis. Awesome. Thanks for giving me a look at the pitches in that at-bat. I&#039;ve known GameDay to show some unlikely (as in inaccurate) pitch locations, but the comparison with those other pitches called strikes says it all.

I&#039;d almost be willing to lay money that when I go to the sportsline.com Game Chart, that pitch will be shown as being out of the strike zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike R.</p>
<p>At first I didn&#8217;t get that the orange text in your 12:35 AM post was a link. I thought it was just emphasis. Awesome. Thanks for giving me a look at the pitches in that at-bat. I&#8217;ve known GameDay to show some unlikely (as in inaccurate) pitch locations, but the comparison with those other pitches called strikes says it all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d almost be willing to lay money that when I go to the sportsline.com Game Chart, that pitch will be shown as being out of the strike zone.</p>
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		<title>By: billfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@stephen &lt;blockquote&gt;Rodney now has 30 career saves and 25 BLOWN saves. I’m no sabermetrician, but I’m fairly certain a 6:5 success ratio has to literally be one of the worst all-time for a pitcher with more than 50 career save opportunities.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, it&#039;s not a good ratio.  And this isn&#039;t a defense of Rodney (25 is too many) but a clarification of the blown save stat.

Using the save/blown save ratio for relievers who aren&#039;t exclusively closers is misleading.  As a set-up guy you can get a blown save because you could meet the qualifications of it being a save situation, but practically speaking you don&#039;t have the opportunity for the save because you&#039;re going to get taken out after your inning of work and not get the save.  To illustrate, Rafael Betancourt has 16 saves and 20 blown saves.  Scot Shields has 18 save and 26 blown saves.

I&#039;m not suggesting that Rodney is better than either - he&#039;s not.  Just that the ratio is misleading for non-closers - which Rodney has been for a significant chunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@stephen<br />
<blockquote>Rodney now has 30 career saves and 25 BLOWN saves. I’m no sabermetrician, but I’m fairly certain a 6:5 success ratio has to literally be one of the worst all-time for a pitcher with more than 50 career save opportunities.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not a good ratio.  And this isn&#8217;t a defense of Rodney (25 is too many) but a clarification of the blown save stat.</p>
<p>Using the save/blown save ratio for relievers who aren&#8217;t exclusively closers is misleading.  As a set-up guy you can get a blown save because you could meet the qualifications of it being a save situation, but practically speaking you don&#8217;t have the opportunity for the save because you&#8217;re going to get taken out after your inning of work and not get the save.  To illustrate, Rafael Betancourt has 16 saves and 20 blown saves.  Scot Shields has 18 save and 26 blown saves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that Rodney is better than either &#8211; he&#8217;s not.  Just that the ratio is misleading for non-closers &#8211; which Rodney has been for a significant chunk.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with stephen.  I hope Leland won&#039;t be back, but I don&#039;t attribute his losing the team because he&#039;s old.  He&#039;s been the same way throughout his career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with stephen.  I hope Leland won&#8217;t be back, but I don&#8217;t attribute his losing the team because he&#8217;s old.  He&#8217;s been the same way throughout his career.</p>
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		<title>By: billfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ryan &lt;blockquote&gt;What’s the feeling about trading Maggs in the off season? Seems like the drop-off he’s had in doubles and walks this year may portend decline phase. He only has 53 XBH on the year; in his non-injury-influenced years, he has always been good for at least 70 (I don’t know how much the oblique is still bothering him). There are enough teams looking for a RF-DH that there should be a good market. Whaddaya think? What kind of package would you be okay with?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We discussed Maggs a couple days ago. 

http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/why-maggs-will-be-a-tiger-next-year/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ryan<br />
<blockquote>What’s the feeling about trading Maggs in the off season? Seems like the drop-off he’s had in doubles and walks this year may portend decline phase. He only has 53 XBH on the year; in his non-injury-influenced years, he has always been good for at least 70 (I don’t know how much the oblique is still bothering him). There are enough teams looking for a RF-DH that there should be a good market. Whaddaya think? What kind of package would you be okay with?</p></blockquote>
<p>We discussed Maggs a couple days ago. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/09/why-maggs-will-be-a-tiger-next-year/" rel="nofollow">http://www.detroittigersweblog.....next-year/</a></p>
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		<title>By: cib</title>
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		<dc:creator>cib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i miss todd jones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i miss todd jones</p>
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		<title>By: Mike R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I looked it up and I got Laz Diaz confused with C.B. Bucknor who was the one twice voted worst ump by the players. So sub in &quot;CB Bucknor&quot; where I put &quot;Laz Diaz.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I looked it up and I got Laz Diaz confused with C.B. Bucknor who was the one twice voted worst ump by the players. So sub in &#8220;CB Bucknor&#8221; where I put &#8220;Laz Diaz.&#8221;</p>
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