Comments on: Game 124: Orioles at Tigers

By: Chris in Dallas

Chris in Dallas — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:30:11 +0000

Sorry I’m a douchebag and never posted the answer. That’s Melvin Mora’s batting line in 7 (7!) games against the Tigers this year. Congrats, Sean. You got it right. Of course you got it right by guessing every player in MLB, but a win is a win.

By: Sean C. in Illinois

Sean C. in Illinois — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:15:17 +0000

Yeah, I’m restless for change for 2009, maybe too restless. Not fire sale-restless, but big change-restless. Dreaming? Well, yes. But I’m not the only one. I hope someday you will join us, Chief Monday.

7 brand new Tigers on the 25-man Opening Day 2009. Not a guess, not a vision, and hardly a realistic projection. Just a wish.

By: Dave BW

Dave BW — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:00:56 +0000

They indeed will still be here, Chief. People in this thread are merely stating that they SHOULDN’T still be here.

By: Sean C. in Illinois

Sean C. in Illinois — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:50:50 +0000

“Trivia question: What’s this? .571/.618/1.393, 6 HR, 17 RBI”

Someone against the Tigers this year. Mauer, Morneau, Melvin Mora, or Luke Scott. Those are my guesses. I do get 4, right?

Either that or Thames or Joyce at their hottest. Renteria against the Indians? OK. that’s 7.

By: Chief Monday

Chief Monday — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:47:51 +0000

You all are dreaming that Robertson and Sheffield are gone after this season. Those guys are highly likely here to stay. The good news is that they’ll probably improve next season.

I agree that Todd Jones is the top candidate not to be with the team next season because he’ll probably retire.

By: Dave BW

Dave BW — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:34:38 +0000

My take…

Keepers: Cabrera, Guillen, Renteria (giving up on him now would be selling low), Granderson, Ordonez, Joyce, Hollimon, Verlander, Gallaraga, Bonderman, Seay, Lopez, Dolsi, Miner, Thames, Rodney, Rapada

Possible role-players: Thomas, Raburn, Santiago, Inge, Clevlen (he still can’t hit MLB pitching, but this seems to be as good as he’s going to get)

Potential in need of further development: Larish, Zumaya, Beltran, Bazardo, Bonine, Cruceta, Willis

Lost causes: Robertson, Fossum, Jones, Sheffield

I would trade Polanco, considering his perceived value is significantly higher than his actual value, and I assume Rogers will retire, god bless him. My opinion is that we have a pretty good roster set up for next year, though the depth still sucks something awful.

By: Dave BW

Dave BW — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:59:21 +0000

Sean: Ah, July 30, 2006, I remember it well. I left to go to Russia that day with the Tigers on top of the world, and when I got back two weeks later they were in a shambles. I doubt it’s a coincidence.

By: Chief Monday

Chief Monday — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:06:46 +0000

Marcus Thames with the bases loaded?

By: Chris in Dallas

Chris in Dallas — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:47:27 +0000

Trivia question: What’s this? .571/.618/1.393, 6 HR, 17 RBI

By: Chris in Dallas

Chris in Dallas — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:41:09 +0000

KEEP: Granderson, Cabrera, Verlander, Ordonez, Zumaya, Seay, Polanco, Bonderman, Willis (probably should add Porcello)

DITCH: Sheffield, Renteria, Thames, Robertson, Jones, Rogers, Farnsworth (in the case of the last 3, it’s easy – don’t offer them a contract)

EITHER/OR: Guillen, Inge, Santiago, Raburn, Joyce, Thomas, Galarraga, Miner, Solid, Et, Cetera

By: Sean C. in Illinois

Sean C. in Illinois — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:27:37 +0000

“there looks to be a modest overhaul coming this offseason on both sides.”

Yes. I’m terrible at reading the minds of the Tigers front office, so I’ll just voice my opinion (surely not for the first or last time) on the overhaul I’d like to see:

MUST GO, ABSOLUTELY MUST: Sheffield, Thames, Rogers, Robertson, Sardinha, Fossum, Jones.

MUST STAY: Granderson, Polanco, Ordonez, Cabrera, Verlander, Galarraga.

SHOULD GO: Renteria, Santiago, Raburn, Lopez, Inge.

SHOULD STAY: Joyce, Thomas, Seay.

CAN GO: Everyone else. Yeah, even Guillen, Bonderman, Zumaya, Rodney, and Willis, not that I think they’ll be going anywhere, for approximately 1000 reasons. But it wouldn’t bother me if any or all of them went away. Put Leyland on this list, too.

By: Chris in Dallas

Chris in Dallas — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:18:20 +0000

And since we’re on the topic of games past that have irked me, check out this one (boy it’s a slow news day):

http://www.baseball-reference......4130.shtml

Note the # of pitches thrown. Not having him pitch the 10th nearly made me rage-vomit.

By: Chris in Dallas

Chris in Dallas — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:15:16 +0000

Oh, and I almost forgot that Bonderman used to be able to throw 95…

By: Chris in Dallas

Chris in Dallas — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:14:31 +0000

Sean: Did you read the post comparing Granderson to Wally Pipp? This was right around Maybin being called up. Funny to look back on that one. Also the first post on that thread was morbid in hindsight.

By: Sean C. in Illinois

Sean C. in Illinois — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:06:35 +0000

Re: July 30, 2006 at DTW

Well, no in-game comments. People were questioning the Bondo thing afterwards, but weren’t fuming. Everyone was pretty sanguine about it with Detroit having taken 2 of 3 in the TwinkieDome. Billfer had this to say:

“The only thing I question is leaving Bonderman out there to face Cuddyer, actually the entire walk Joe Mauer to get to Cuddyer. Jamie Walker was warm and available. I know Bonderman wasn’t getting hit hard, and he was still throwing 95, and even the pitch that Cuddyer hit wasn’t a bad pitch. But there is probably a limit to the frustration one pitcher should face in an inning, and he threw a ton of pitches.”