Comments on: Game 96: Tigers at Orioles http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:11:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: stephen http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97664 stephen Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:06:32 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97664 Why is everyone being so harsh? It takes a lot of hits and walks to leave 24 men on base! Now we just need to finish those rallies! Keep the faith! Why is everyone being so harsh? It takes a lot of hits and walks to leave 24 men on base! Now we just need to finish those rallies! Keep the faith!

]]> By: Jeff http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97662 Jeff Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:33:16 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97662 Miggy still leads the team in VORP, narrowly ahead of Granderson and Maggs. A bit further back are Guillen and Thames then Polanco and Pudge. Those guys aren't the problem. Miggy still leads the team in VORP, narrowly ahead of Granderson and Maggs. A bit further back are Guillen and Thames then Polanco and Pudge. Those guys aren’t the problem.

]]> By: Dave BW http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97661 Dave BW Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:09:02 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97661 Sorry, forty. I'm moving next week and haven't had much time for the updates :( Sorry, forty. I’m moving next week and haven’t had much time for the updates :(

]]> By: cib http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97660 cib Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:03:50 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97660 I'm glad I went to the bar instead. Not a sports bar. I’m glad I went to the bar instead. Not a sports bar.

]]> By: mark_in_gr http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97659 mark_in_gr Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:44:21 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97659 Buy more hot-n-readies? Forget that, those idiots will just spend it on another underachieving stick like Cabrera. Like the front office didn't see the bottom dropping out of the bullpen like it is doing? Come on . . . DD needs to retire and model for bril creme . . . The season is over. Buy more hot-n-readies? Forget that, those idiots will just spend it on another underachieving stick like Cabrera. Like the front office didn’t see the bottom dropping out of the bullpen like it is doing? Come on . . . DD needs to retire and model for bril creme . . . The season is over.

]]> By: Brian B. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97658 Brian B. Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:37:28 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97658 I don't think Galarraga will keep up with anything near his first half pace. It was nice, and kept us alive for a while, but he hasn't had too good of an outing in over a month. I still have hope for this season, but I don't think our relief pitching is deep enough to last too much longer. I'm just going to keep eating Hot n' Ready's so we can buy a new guy, I suggest you all do the same. I don’t think Galarraga will keep up with anything near his first half pace. It was nice, and kept us alive for a while, but he hasn’t had too good of an outing in over a month. I still have hope for this season, but I don’t think our relief pitching is deep enough to last too much longer. I’m just going to keep eating Hot n’ Ready’s so we can buy a new guy, I suggest you all do the same.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97657 Jeff Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:23:02 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97657 I don't know whether it's coaching or what, but I think a lot of the Tigers' pitchers this year are afraid of their stuff. By that I mean they're worried about throwing too good of pitches that they nibble and fall behind on counts, then either walk the guy or have to come in. Granted, what happened tonight in the two cases you cite really doesn't fit that, Seay was ahead on the count and Fossom was early in the count. But I think the general issue, of relief pitchers being so careful that they get in trouble, is a genuine one. Miner was one of the worst offenders, but only when he had guys on base. He might be more successful as a starter just because he'll come in each inning with nobody on base. I don’t know whether it’s coaching or what, but I think a lot of the Tigers’ pitchers this year are afraid of their stuff. By that I mean they’re worried about throwing too good of pitches that they nibble and fall behind on counts, then either walk the guy or have to come in.

Granted, what happened tonight in the two cases you cite really doesn’t fit that, Seay was ahead on the count and Fossom was early in the count. But I think the general issue, of relief pitchers being so careful that they get in trouble, is a genuine one.

Miner was one of the worst offenders, but only when he had guys on base. He might be more successful as a starter just because he’ll come in each inning with nobody on base.

]]> By: judpma http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97656 judpma Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:15:57 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97656 Jeff you are right and does he pay for the few bad ones he makes ...at least he has a couple hours to work things out. ..Seay works about 15 minutes in a 24 hour day... ---I just don't get it....especially after the guy almost jacked your previous pitch....Follsom sits around for 23 hours comes in throws one stinking pitch hits a dude..I just don't get it ........if you only had to work 15 minutes in a 24 hour day and not everyday don't you think you would be damn good at it!!!!!!! Jeff you are right and does he pay for the few bad ones he makes …at least he has a couple hours to work things out.
..Seay works about 15 minutes in a 24 hour day…
—I just don’t get it….especially after the guy almost jacked your previous pitch….Follsom sits around for 23 hours comes in throws one stinking pitch hits a dude..I just don’t get it ……..if you only had to work 15 minutes in a 24 hour day and not everyday don’t you think you would be damn good at it!!!!!!!

]]> By: Jeff http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97654 Jeff Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:03:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97654 "a few bad pitches but a lot of good ones" describes many of Nate Robertson's 5 ER starts this year. “a few bad pitches but a lot of good ones” describes many of Nate Robertson’s 5 ER starts this year.

]]> By: judpma http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97653 judpma Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:57:51 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97653 wonder what it is like to watch a guy pitch his #ss off for 6-7 innings get the job done, make a few bad pitches but a lot of good ones while you sip a coke or whatever in the bullpen. Finally after 3 hours you get to warm up and you have to get ONE or TWO guys out and you would be done for the night and you fail at it time after time after time.... wonder what it is like to watch a guy pitch his #ss off for 6-7 innings get the job done, make a few bad pitches but a lot of good ones while you sip a coke or whatever in the bullpen. Finally after 3 hours you get to warm up and you have to get ONE or TWO guys out and you would be done for the night and you fail at it time after time after time….

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97652 ron Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:51:59 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97652 Go Tigers, please. Go Tigers, please.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97651 Jeff Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:50:32 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97651 Tigers starters aren't exactly walk-averse either. It's been one of the more underpublicized issues as far as the Tigers' performance -- their pitchers are falling behind on counts and either walking guys or having to come in on 2-0 counts and getting in trouble that way. Tigers starters aren’t exactly walk-averse either. It’s been one of the more underpublicized issues as far as the Tigers’ performance — their pitchers are falling behind on counts and either walking guys or having to come in on 2-0 counts and getting in trouble that way.

]]> By: judpma http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97650 judpma Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:45:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97650 wow.....walk -hit batter -home run....that's our bullpen....Oriole announcer mentioned the Tiger pen is last in strikeouts and first on walks in the American league... ..I wonder where the rank in the we just plain "suck" rankings wow…..walk -hit batter -home run….that’s our bullpen….Oriole announcer mentioned the Tiger pen is last in strikeouts and first on walks in the American league…
..I wonder where the rank in the we just plain “suck” rankings

]]> By: Jeff http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97649 Jeff Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:42:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97649 Good situation for Sheff to try to work a walk. The Tigers need one more baserunner. Good situation for Sheff to try to work a walk. The Tigers need one more baserunner.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97648 Jeff Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:38:12 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-96-tigers-at-orioles/#comment-97648 Pretty lousy job there. I guess these things even out over two days though -- when it was 4-3 it was the reverse of the situation the previous night when Inge hit a 2-run shot for a 5-4 lead. Hopefully Baltimore gets a Todd Jones type 9th inning. Pretty lousy job there. I guess these things even out over two days though — when it was 4-3 it was the reverse of the situation the previous night when Inge hit a 2-run shot for a 5-4 lead. Hopefully Baltimore gets a Todd Jones type 9th inning.

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