Comments on: Game 88: Tigers at Mariners http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: T Smith http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95771 T Smith Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:11:53 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95771 I would say if Boston fans hated him with this line: .276/.335/.385 Tiger fans are downright forgiving with: .254/.302/.328 I would say if Boston fans hated him with this line:

.276/.335/.385

Tiger fans are downright forgiving with:

.254/.302/.328

]]> By: Chris in Dallas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95760 Chris in Dallas Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:48:28 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95760 Julio Lugo would be intriguing. He could probably obliterate the Tigers record for Times Grabbing Crotch per Plate Appearance, also known as TGC/PA... Julio Lugo would be intriguing. He could probably obliterate the Tigers record for Times Grabbing Crotch per Plate Appearance, also known as TGC/PA…

]]> By: Ryan P http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95758 Ryan P Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:46:24 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95758 lmao, the Sox fans would go nuts if they traded for Renteria. They hated him so much in '05...maybe not quite as much as they hate Lugo, but wow. lmao, the Sox fans would go nuts if they traded for Renteria. They hated him so much in ’05…maybe not quite as much as they hate Lugo, but wow.

]]> By: T Smith http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95756 T Smith Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:44:50 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95756 <cite>...What if the team had just said to him, get over to first base! Think we would have been that much worse off with Santiago and some of the other young players posted out there - - and at the plate?</cite> It's not too late. Renteria can by outta here by July 31, if we can somehow find another team to take him off our hands. If I were DD I would be pitching him hard to some other contender in need of a SS and try to get something good in return -- anything. Believe it or not, I heard a rumor that the Redsox were interested. They hate Lugo that much over there I guess. I would much rather see Santiago, Holliman -- even Inge -- at short rather than Renteria. …What if the team had just said to him, get over to first base! Think we would have been that much worse off with Santiago and some of the other young players posted out there – - and at the plate?

It’s not too late. Renteria can by outta here by July 31, if we can somehow find another team to take him off our hands. If I were DD I would be pitching him hard to some other contender in need of a SS and try to get something good in return — anything. Believe it or not, I heard a rumor that the Redsox were interested. They hate Lugo that much over there I guess.

I would much rather see Santiago, Holliman — even Inge — at short rather than Renteria.

]]> By: Chris in Dallas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95743 Chris in Dallas Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:02:25 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95743 Lay off of Edgar already. He's sporting a 70 OPS+. So he's only 30% worse than league average, OK. As a side note, it's easier to view a player's baseball-reference page when you type in their actual name, as opposed to the stupid names I give them. 'Elmers' Renteria brings back no info, nor does 'Gil' Cabrera or Freddy 'Solid' or 'Johnny McStrikeout'. Just a helpful hint... Lay off of Edgar already. He’s sporting a 70 OPS+. So he’s only 30% worse than league average, OK. As a side note, it’s easier to view a player’s baseball-reference page when you type in their actual name, as opposed to the stupid names I give them. ‘Elmers’ Renteria brings back no info, nor does ‘Gil’ Cabrera or Freddy ‘Solid’ or ‘Johnny McStrikeout’. Just a helpful hint…

]]> By: Sean C. in Illinois http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95741 Sean C. in Illinois Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:40:53 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95741 Renteria just needs to start channeling his Inner Sheffield. I mean, Renteria needs to stop channeling his Inner Sheffield. Renteria just needs to start channeling his Inner Sheffield. I mean, Renteria needs to stop channeling his Inner Sheffield.

]]> By: Sean C. in Illinois http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95740 Sean C. in Illinois Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:27:25 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95740 "When Santiago’s ready to go again, here’s a question to ponder" That's a possibility I never considered. I could get behind keeping both Hollimon and Santiago while Edgar does a 15-day DL stint. Or 60-day. Either way. I want for him to rest up a bit, that's all. “When Santiago’s ready to go again, here’s a question to ponder”

That’s a possibility I never considered. I could get behind keeping both Hollimon and Santiago while Edgar does a 15-day DL stint. Or 60-day. Either way. I want for him to rest up a bit, that’s all.

]]> By: judpma http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95739 judpma Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:15:32 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95739 maybe Renterea is sleeping on his BAT maybe Renterea is sleeping on his BAT

]]> By: Sean C. in Illinois http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95725 Sean C. in Illinois Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:34:34 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95725 I also sometimes take the day off work when Dave BW sleeps on his arm the wrong way, too. Therefore, Rhodes must have been telling the truth. This is what is known in formal logic as a "tautology." I also sometimes take the day off work when Dave BW sleeps on his arm the wrong way, too. Therefore, Rhodes must have been telling the truth. This is what is known in formal logic as a “tautology.”

]]> By: Ryan http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95724 Ryan Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:24:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95724 Renteria since June 1 : .213/.283/.241 Oddly enough, 15 full time players (50+ PA) have a lower OPS over that span. You think Edgar's bad? Varitek has a .388 OPS and he's an all star. Omar Vizquel has an absolutely circus-bad .330. Bengie Molina, who was super hothothot for like two months has a .522. Jose Vidro, DH, has a .482. I swear I don't mean to defend Renteria. I was just shocked and delighted to see that there are colder hitters in the majors. Also surprising: the next worst Tiger (50+ PA) over that time period is Maggs, .747 OPS. .747 is a lot higher than .524. There really is a case to be made that Renteria is hurting the Tigers far, far more than anyone else. Renteria since June 1 : .213/.283/.241

Oddly enough, 15 full time players (50+ PA) have a lower OPS over that span. You think Edgar’s bad? Varitek has a .388 OPS and he’s an all star. Omar Vizquel has an absolutely circus-bad .330. Bengie Molina, who was super hothothot for like two months has a .522. Jose Vidro, DH, has a .482.

I swear I don’t mean to defend Renteria. I was just shocked and delighted to see that there are colder hitters in the majors. Also surprising: the next worst Tiger (50+ PA) over that time period is Maggs, .747 OPS. .747 is a lot higher than .524. There really is a case to be made that Renteria is hurting the Tigers far, far more than anyone else.

]]> By: Dave BW http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95711 Dave BW Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:49:00 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95711 Sometimes I take the day off work when I sleep on my arm the wrong way, too Sometimes I take the day off work when I sleep on my arm the wrong way, too

]]> By: scotsw http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95709 scotsw Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:33:22 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95709 Also, Regarding the M's decision to send in the back-up catcher for the last inning (from Mlive.com): "Arthur Rhodes warmed up, but couldn't throw well enough <em>after sleeping wrong on his arm</em>. Closer Brandon Morrow was shut down for the day because he'd pitched in four of the last five days." (my emphasis) Sometimes, it's better to make something up... Or do you think Rhodes had to make something up, and this was the best he could come up with? Also, Regarding the M’s decision to send in the back-up catcher for the last inning (from Mlive.com):

“Arthur Rhodes warmed up, but couldn’t throw well enough after sleeping wrong on his arm. Closer Brandon Morrow was shut down for the day because he’d pitched in four of the last five days.”

(my emphasis)

Sometimes, it’s better to make something up… Or do you think Rhodes had to make something up, and this was the best he could come up with?

]]> By: scotsw http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95708 scotsw Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:25:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95708 When Santiago's ready to go again, here's a question to ponder: Do the Tigers.... A) Send Holliman back down or B) Tell Renteria he's injured? When Santiago’s ready to go again, here’s a question to ponder: Do the Tigers….

A) Send Holliman back down or
B) Tell Renteria he’s injured?

]]> By: cib http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95702 cib Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:37:30 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95702 All of the comments here are way more interesting than the game was. I was officially boycotting the game. Went grocery shopping, turned on the radio in the car, and heard it was still going on. Glad we won but to have to go 15 innings to get a stinking run off the Mariners? There is something really wrong here. I have to say that I like Guillen but I can't stop remembering that it was his ego that brought us Renteria. Remember when he "agreed" to move to first base but only if he were replaced at SS by an "all star caliber" player? What if the team had just said to him, get over to first base! Think we would have been that much worse off with Santiago and some of the other young players posted out there - - and at the plate? Just a thought on a much-needed day off. I'll be there Tuesday evening hoping for the best, as always! All of the comments here are way more interesting than the game was. I was officially boycotting the game. Went grocery shopping, turned on the radio in the car, and heard it was still going on. Glad we won but to have to go 15 innings to get a stinking run off the Mariners? There is something really wrong here.

I have to say that I like Guillen but I can’t stop remembering that it was his ego that brought us Renteria. Remember when he “agreed” to move to first base but only if he were replaced at SS by an “all star caliber” player? What if the team had just said to him, get over to first base! Think we would have been that much worse off with Santiago and some of the other young players posted out there – - and at the plate?

Just a thought on a much-needed day off. I’ll be there Tuesday evening hoping for the best, as always!

]]> By: Ryan P http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95701 Ryan P Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:25:11 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-88-tigers-at-mariners-3/#comment-95701 I had to stop watching in the 11th because watching the Tigers' hitting made me sick to my stomach. I stopped puking in time to see Renteria fly out against a pitching catcher. Then I had to go back to the bathroom. I had to stop watching in the 11th because watching the Tigers’ hitting made me sick to my stomach. I stopped puking in time to see Renteria fly out against a pitching catcher. Then I had to go back to the bathroom.

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