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		<title>By: judpma</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-84-tigers-at-twins/#comment-95308</link>
		<dc:creator>judpma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.move on boys....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.move on boys&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-84-tigers-at-twins/#comment-95276</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am ashamed of myself. Simply ashamed&quot;

For once, I can claim a clear conscience. I didn&#039;t even know about the mustache. 

For the record, I&#039;ve always been a staunch supporter of the right to experiment with facial hair, and I&#039;ve always been there with moral and emotional support for the brave men (and women) who defend out country against entirely bald upper lips, chins, and cheeks. Yet it&#039;s no contradiction that I was there to defend Todd Jones when he shaved. Freedom is what I&#039;m all about. I am pro-choice on facial hair.

But freedom is one thing, and condoning what violates common decency quite another. Join me in my campaign to end the unseemly practice of eyebrow-plucking before it, too -  along with the use of purple lip gloss - spreads to MLB.

I haven&#039;t received my last few issues of the newsletter, T. I&#039;m feeling a little adrift and out of focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am ashamed of myself. Simply ashamed&#8221;</p>
<p>For once, I can claim a clear conscience. I didn&#8217;t even know about the mustache. </p>
<p>For the record, I&#8217;ve always been a staunch supporter of the right to experiment with facial hair, and I&#8217;ve always been there with moral and emotional support for the brave men (and women) who defend out country against entirely bald upper lips, chins, and cheeks. Yet it&#8217;s no contradiction that I was there to defend Todd Jones when he shaved. Freedom is what I&#8217;m all about. I am pro-choice on facial hair.</p>
<p>But freedom is one thing, and condoning what violates common decency quite another. Join me in my campaign to end the unseemly practice of eyebrow-plucking before it, too &#8211;  along with the use of purple lip gloss &#8211; spreads to MLB.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t received my last few issues of the newsletter, T. I&#8217;m feeling a little adrift and out of focus.</p>
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		<title>By: T Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-84-tigers-at-twins/#comment-95273</link>
		<dc:creator>T Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Maggs, in case nobody got my newsletter yet:

There is no injury.  The oblique is a pretext.  He is on the 15 day DL to have time (outside public scrutiny) to grow in his mustache without being ridiculed by DTW posters and the extended Detroit Metropolitan area.

We should all be ashamed people.  To lose our best hitter for 15 days, and for what?  A joke or two?  Have we no natural material or wit without rendering an innocent, facial-hair challenged All Star the butt of our jokes?  

I am ashamed of myself.  Simply ashamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Maggs, in case nobody got my newsletter yet:</p>
<p>There is no injury.  The oblique is a pretext.  He is on the 15 day DL to have time (outside public scrutiny) to grow in his mustache without being ridiculed by DTW posters and the extended Detroit Metropolitan area.</p>
<p>We should all be ashamed people.  To lose our best hitter for 15 days, and for what?  A joke or two?  Have we no natural material or wit without rendering an innocent, facial-hair challenged All Star the butt of our jokes?  </p>
<p>I am ashamed of myself.  Simply ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-84-tigers-at-twins/#comment-95270</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tildehawk! I like that. Can he keep it long in the back, though? Considering a mohawk myself. A hairstyle whose time has come around again, I feel. Or not.

Just regular stats today, folks:

RISP OPS and RBI/RISP PA

Inge .921 (.390)
Ordonez .871 (.312)
Thames .870 (.386)
Polanco .841 (.304)
Sheffield .778 (.269)
Guillen .776 (.313)
Renteria .736 (.278)
Granderson .724 (.409)
Thomas .703 (.304)
Cabrera .697 (.333)
Rodriguez .641 (.274)

Expecting the 2 numbers to go hand in hand, I looked into why they didn&#039;t.

Granderson is insanely good at getting the guy home from 3B. Surprised by the mediocre OPS, though. His OBP plummets with RISP - 1 walk in 44 PA. 

Rodriguez is just another guy altogether with none on. He needs to be pulled from the game immediately when due up with RISP.

They only thing standing between Renteria and exposure as a complete RISP black hole is 2 grand slams.  

Gil! Why? But he&#039;s very, very good with a guy on 1B, somehow. He wrings out a good amount of RBI out of RISP opportunities, better than Ordonez and Guillen, so why am I complaining? That .697 bugs me, don&#039;t know how he gets 33 RBI out of it. His whole RISP line is disappointing except for that part. No franchise guy slugging here.  

I know I&#039;m demanding, but I feel Magglio should have 60 RBI, not merely 50. I looked and looked... aha! Failure with the bases loaded. There&#039;s your missing 10 RBI, Maggs.

There&#039;s no denying that Inge has gotten it done here, .215 BA and 33% K rate and all. The numbers speak for themselves. Will he the same when he comes back? I suggest starting Pudge every day and then pulling him for Inge as suggested above. 

Guillen&#039;s getting decent RBI out of opportunities. So why the lower than expected OPS? He&#039;s not slugging with RISP.

Thames, looking good all around, despite a .225 BA with RISP. Home runs help, but get this - 10 of 16 have come with men on, including 6 with a man on 1B.

Thomas getting on base a bit more would be Polanco #2. Why can&#039;t he be Raburn? Or why can&#039;t Raburn be him?

Sheffield&#039;s problem is that walks don&#039;t usually drive in runs. He also can&#039;t get a guy home from 3B with 2 outs to save his life. It&#039;s outside the scope of the above numbers, but his line with men on is just... unreal. Let&#039;s hope he gets it together on a consistent basis. With Ordonez out, right about NOW would be a good time, Gary.

Polanco - you can&#039;t ask for more in a #2 hitter. Is he the best in the game? You tell me. It&#039;s easy to see why, with all the crazy lineup suggestions we have, no one messes with #2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tildehawk! I like that. Can he keep it long in the back, though? Considering a mohawk myself. A hairstyle whose time has come around again, I feel. Or not.</p>
<p>Just regular stats today, folks:</p>
<p>RISP OPS and RBI/RISP PA</p>
<p>Inge .921 (.390)<br />
Ordonez .871 (.312)<br />
Thames .870 (.386)<br />
Polanco .841 (.304)<br />
Sheffield .778 (.269)<br />
Guillen .776 (.313)<br />
Renteria .736 (.278)<br />
Granderson .724 (.409)<br />
Thomas .703 (.304)<br />
Cabrera .697 (.333)<br />
Rodriguez .641 (.274)</p>
<p>Expecting the 2 numbers to go hand in hand, I looked into why they didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Granderson is insanely good at getting the guy home from 3B. Surprised by the mediocre OPS, though. His OBP plummets with RISP &#8211; 1 walk in 44 PA. </p>
<p>Rodriguez is just another guy altogether with none on. He needs to be pulled from the game immediately when due up with RISP.</p>
<p>They only thing standing between Renteria and exposure as a complete RISP black hole is 2 grand slams.  </p>
<p>Gil! Why? But he&#8217;s very, very good with a guy on 1B, somehow. He wrings out a good amount of RBI out of RISP opportunities, better than Ordonez and Guillen, so why am I complaining? That .697 bugs me, don&#8217;t know how he gets 33 RBI out of it. His whole RISP line is disappointing except for that part. No franchise guy slugging here.  </p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m demanding, but I feel Magglio should have 60 RBI, not merely 50. I looked and looked&#8230; aha! Failure with the bases loaded. There&#8217;s your missing 10 RBI, Maggs.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no denying that Inge has gotten it done here, .215 BA and 33% K rate and all. The numbers speak for themselves. Will he the same when he comes back? I suggest starting Pudge every day and then pulling him for Inge as suggested above. </p>
<p>Guillen&#8217;s getting decent RBI out of opportunities. So why the lower than expected OPS? He&#8217;s not slugging with RISP.</p>
<p>Thames, looking good all around, despite a .225 BA with RISP. Home runs help, but get this &#8211; 10 of 16 have come with men on, including 6 with a man on 1B.</p>
<p>Thomas getting on base a bit more would be Polanco #2. Why can&#8217;t he be Raburn? Or why can&#8217;t Raburn be him?</p>
<p>Sheffield&#8217;s problem is that walks don&#8217;t usually drive in runs. He also can&#8217;t get a guy home from 3B with 2 outs to save his life. It&#8217;s outside the scope of the above numbers, but his line with men on is just&#8230; unreal. Let&#8217;s hope he gets it together on a consistent basis. With Ordonez out, right about NOW would be a good time, Gary.</p>
<p>Polanco &#8211; you can&#8217;t ask for more in a #2 hitter. Is he the best in the game? You tell me. It&#8217;s easy to see why, with all the crazy lineup suggestions we have, no one messes with #2.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerkwheat</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-84-tigers-at-twins/#comment-95269</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerkwheat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tildehawk?</description>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-84-tigers-at-twins/#comment-95264</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can only hope that Mr. Ordonez blesses us with the Maggshawk.</description>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Maggs will come back with a Travis Bickel mohawk. I can see Ordonez kicking over the TV after watching yesterday&#039;s game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Maggs will come back with a Travis Bickel mohawk. I can see Ordonez kicking over the TV after watching yesterday&#8217;s game.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only that, you save a bundle on laundry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only that, you save a bundle on laundry.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-84-tigers-at-twins/#comment-95261</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ron:  That about sums it up.  I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s right, it just is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ron:  That about sums it up.  I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s right, it just is.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris in Dallas, oh, I get it. When you get paid less and your talented, you bust your ass every day to pass probation, and then you will command millions in salary arbitratration and then you do not have to bust your ass everyday because your set for life moneywise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris in Dallas, oh, I get it. When you get paid less and your talented, you bust your ass every day to pass probation, and then you will command millions in salary arbitratration and then you do not have to bust your ass everyday because your set for life moneywise.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-84-tigers-at-twins/#comment-95258</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the House of Rodriguez is in disorder.  Oh, the humanity!  I guess Mrs. A-Rod couldn&#039;t handle being with a guy who wears purple lip gloss. Bully for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the House of Rodriguez is in disorder.  Oh, the humanity!  I guess Mrs. A-Rod couldn&#8217;t handle being with a guy who wears purple lip gloss. Bully for her.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a lighter note, A Rods wife split. She had a Lenny Kravitz thing while of course the A Rod and Madonna distraction is sending Son of Steinbrenner up the wall. I&#039;m glad the Tigers are a family oriented team. It&#039;s important that each member of a 143 million dollar team devote it&#039;s full attention to baseball, so as to guarantee success. Do you think a scrub could mop up the floor with Madonna?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a lighter note, A Rods wife split. She had a Lenny Kravitz thing while of course the A Rod and Madonna distraction is sending Son of Steinbrenner up the wall. I&#8217;m glad the Tigers are a family oriented team. It&#8217;s important that each member of a 143 million dollar team devote it&#8217;s full attention to baseball, so as to guarantee success. Do you think a scrub could mop up the floor with Madonna?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/07/game-84-tigers-at-twins/#comment-95256</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyhoo, I just wanted to post these numbers for fun:

4 IP, 9 H, 7 ER, 1 BB, 0 K
2/3 IP, 7 H, 7 ER, 0 K

Ladies and gentelmen, Carlos Silva vs. your Detroit Tigers in &#039;08! (BTW this is not a new development, as he&#039;s got a 5.78 ERA in 76.1 career innings vs. the Tigs)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyhoo, I just wanted to post these numbers for fun:</p>
<p>4 IP, 9 H, 7 ER, 1 BB, 0 K<br />
2/3 IP, 7 H, 7 ER, 0 K</p>
<p>Ladies and gentelmen, Carlos Silva vs. your Detroit Tigers in &#8216;08! (BTW this is not a new development, as he&#8217;s got a 5.78 ERA in 76.1 career innings vs. the Tigs)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ron:  The reason the D-Rays payroll is so much lower is that they are built on young talent (Longoria, Upton, Garza, Shields, Sonnanstine etc.).  These guys have not been eligible for salary arbitration yet, so they can pay them the league minimum.  And they signed Longoria to a ridiculously club-friendly long term extension.  The Tigers are stocked with veterans who command more money due to service time.  That&#039;s all.  The D-Rays are a fun team to watch, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ron:  The reason the D-Rays payroll is so much lower is that they are built on young talent (Longoria, Upton, Garza, Shields, Sonnanstine etc.).  These guys have not been eligible for salary arbitration yet, so they can pay them the league minimum.  And they signed Longoria to a ridiculously club-friendly long term extension.  The Tigers are stocked with veterans who command more money due to service time.  That&#8217;s all.  The D-Rays are a fun team to watch, though.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rays are 10 games better than we are with a payroll that is 100 million dollars less than ours. Must be our injuries, costly errors, tough schedule.... something. How could this be? I hate it when you don&#039;t get your money&#039;s worth with a sports team that was and still may be destined for greatness but because of unforseen circumstances, languishes in mediocrity.Hey, it&#039;s a long season; anything can happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rays are 10 games better than we are with a payroll that is 100 million dollars less than ours. Must be our injuries, costly errors, tough schedule&#8230;. something. How could this be? I hate it when you don&#8217;t get your money&#8217;s worth with a sports team that was and still may be destined for greatness but because of unforseen circumstances, languishes in mediocrity.Hey, it&#8217;s a long season; anything can happen.</p>
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