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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/06/game-78-cardinals-at-tigers/#comment-94018</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>billfer - Nate Robertson&#039;s line drive rate isn&#039;t significantly higher than it has been in years past.  In fact, it&#039;s actually &lt;i&gt;lower&lt;/i&gt; than in 2006 when he posted what would be considered his best season (19.4% in &#039;08 vs. 20.0% in &#039;06).  He&#039;s really right in line with his career norm as far as that goes.  His main problem would seem to be that his GB rate has plummeted from 46.7% in &#039;06 to 41.0% this year.  You would think that would lead to a spike in his HR/FB rate, but it&#039;s the opposite (13.2% of his FB were HR in &#039;06 vs. 9.6% this year).  Again, I have no idea what to make of Robertson other than the fact he&#039;s unlucky a lot with the .340 BABiP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>billfer &#8211; Nate Robertson&#8217;s line drive rate isn&#8217;t significantly higher than it has been in years past.  In fact, it&#8217;s actually <i>lower</i> than in 2006 when he posted what would be considered his best season (19.4% in &#8217;08 vs. 20.0% in &#8217;06).  He&#8217;s really right in line with his career norm as far as that goes.  His main problem would seem to be that his GB rate has plummeted from 46.7% in &#8217;06 to 41.0% this year.  You would think that would lead to a spike in his HR/FB rate, but it&#8217;s the opposite (13.2% of his FB were HR in &#8217;06 vs. 9.6% this year).  Again, I have no idea what to make of Robertson other than the fact he&#8217;s unlucky a lot with the .340 BABiP.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see a Tigers vs. Tigers WS.  A split-squad affair, like in Spring Training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see a Tigers vs. Tigers WS.  A split-squad affair, like in Spring Training.</p>
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		<title>By: tiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do wish we could&#039;ve played the Cubs in interleague this year.  The White Sox make them look so unbeatable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do wish we could&#8217;ve played the Cubs in interleague this year.  The White Sox make them look so unbeatable!</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t Trammel still coaching for the Cubbies?  Wonder how he&#039;d like a Cubs-Tigers series?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Trammel still coaching for the Cubbies?  Wonder how he&#8217;d like a Cubs-Tigers series?</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Cubs and Tigers are in the WS this year, the train shuttling the clubs between the two cities will go right thru Mike R&#039;s neighborhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Cubs and Tigers are in the WS this year, the train shuttling the clubs between the two cities will go right thru Mike R&#8217;s neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The moon is at 37% brightness as opposed to 63% when this run started. It has had a 100% turnaround just like the team. As it wanes into darkness, let&#039;s hope the vampires don&#039;t come out and the team reverts to it&#039;s losing blood sucking ways. If we continue to win, then we&#039;ll go with the low pressure over Massachusett theory that Sean C. mentioned, but I don&#039;t think was espousing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The moon is at 37% brightness as opposed to 63% when this run started. It has had a 100% turnaround just like the team. As it wanes into darkness, let&#8217;s hope the vampires don&#8217;t come out and the team reverts to it&#8217;s losing blood sucking ways. If we continue to win, then we&#8217;ll go with the low pressure over Massachusett theory that Sean C. mentioned, but I don&#8217;t think was espousing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Ron, my ex didn&#039;t beat me in the World Series. As I see it, she just left the field. I&#039;ll just keep taking batting practice until another worthy opponent shows up.

The Cubs will be so happy just to be in a World Series they&#039;ll forget that they&#039;re also supposed to win. 

But all joking aside, a Cubs-Tigers WS would be about the best thing possible in 2008. 7 games, no question. Good games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Ron, my ex didn&#8217;t beat me in the World Series. As I see it, she just left the field. I&#8217;ll just keep taking batting practice until another worthy opponent shows up.</p>
<p>The Cubs will be so happy just to be in a World Series they&#8217;ll forget that they&#8217;re also supposed to win. </p>
<p>But all joking aside, a Cubs-Tigers WS would be about the best thing possible in 2008. 7 games, no question. Good games.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the Cubs want to pay us back for 45&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the Cubs want to pay us back for 45&#8242;.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean C. don&#039;t you want to pay back your ex?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean C. don&#8217;t you want to pay back your ex?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billfer -

&quot;Hitters do get the same luck treatment with respect to BABIP and line drive rates.&quot;

Fair enough. I don&#039;t often see BAbip and line drive rates for hitters cited, though. It also seems that the memory of a hitter hitting the ball hard for outs fades faster than the memory of a pitcher done in by bloopers. Maybe that&#039;s only because there are so many at bats for a hitter as compared to starts for a pitcher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billfer -</p>
<p>&#8220;Hitters do get the same luck treatment with respect to BABIP and line drive rates.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fair enough. I don&#8217;t often see BAbip and line drive rates for hitters cited, though. It also seems that the memory of a hitter hitting the ball hard for outs fades faster than the memory of a pitcher done in by bloopers. Maybe that&#8217;s only because there are so many at bats for a hitter as compared to starts for a pitcher.</p>
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		<title>By: billfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean - Hitters do get the same luck treatment with respect to BABIP and line drive rates.

As for Nate he&#039;s kind of an enigma.  The peripherals are good, but his line drive rate has been  high for much of the season.  So it&#039;s not that he consistently gets pounded, but when guys do hit it, they hit it hard.  The result is a mediocre pitcher, and one who has consisntently kept his team in the game while typically not dominating the opposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean &#8211; Hitters do get the same luck treatment with respect to BABIP and line drive rates.</p>
<p>As for Nate he&#8217;s kind of an enigma.  The peripherals are good, but his line drive rate has been  high for much of the season.  So it&#8217;s not that he consistently gets pounded, but when guys do hit it, they hit it hard.  The result is a mediocre pitcher, and one who has consisntently kept his team in the game while typically not dominating the opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;love to see these guys in the WS, with us of course, for payback.&quot;

You&#039;ve gotta be kidding me, Ron. I never want to see the Cardinals under LaRussa in the WS again. Lawyer Man will psyche out Smoky Jim every time. The Tigers would lose in 5 and commit 10 pitcher&#039;s fielding errors this time. Brandon Inge would be the last batter and strike out - again. It would play out like a recurring nightmare.

Much more fun to play the Cubs, team of destiny, and put the nail in that coffin for another 100 years. Plus, I&#039;d get to listen to Pat Hughes do the World Series play by play. As I may well get to anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;love to see these guys in the WS, with us of course, for payback.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve gotta be kidding me, Ron. I never want to see the Cardinals under LaRussa in the WS again. Lawyer Man will psyche out Smoky Jim every time. The Tigers would lose in 5 and commit 10 pitcher&#8217;s fielding errors this time. Brandon Inge would be the last batter and strike out &#8211; again. It would play out like a recurring nightmare.</p>
<p>Much more fun to play the Cubs, team of destiny, and put the nail in that coffin for another 100 years. Plus, I&#8217;d get to listen to Pat Hughes do the World Series play by play. As I may well get to anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam: You&#039;re not a butthead for being glad Clete was in the game. I&#039;m a big Marcus booster, but if he&#039;s going to share time in LF, it is at least more sensible and interesting when it&#039;s with young guys like Thomas or Joyce. 

Clete&#039;s an interesting story, coming out of nowhere because JL saw something in him and evidently still does. Score one for Jim.

judpma: Good point about Rodney. Uncertainty about him has been even greater than that about Sheffield. If they&#039;re &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; back, well, look out.

I don&#039;t think we need to apologize to Sheff. He needs to apologize to us, to the tune of a .900 OPS over the next 4 months.

&quot;Put it all together, Nate has been pretty unlucky. That’s the only thing I see&quot;

I don&#039;t want to beat on Nate the Solid/Mediocre Reliable/Disappointing. I don&#039;t want to beat on Mark the Perceptive and Thoughtful, either. But what is luck for a pitcher, and how far can you take accounting for the discrepancy between actual and expected with luck? I don&#039;t see hitters getting that same write-off. A hit&#039;s a hit, and you get no extra credit for smoking the ball into the third baseman&#039;s glove.

Look at Nate&#039;s 2008 splits on hit location and hit trajectory. These numbers interest me, but I&#039;m not expert enough to come up with anything but (surely) very hokey theories on what it all means. Help me out. Someone. Anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam: You&#8217;re not a butthead for being glad Clete was in the game. I&#8217;m a big Marcus booster, but if he&#8217;s going to share time in LF, it is at least more sensible and interesting when it&#8217;s with young guys like Thomas or Joyce. </p>
<p>Clete&#8217;s an interesting story, coming out of nowhere because JL saw something in him and evidently still does. Score one for Jim.</p>
<p>judpma: Good point about Rodney. Uncertainty about him has been even greater than that about Sheffield. If they&#8217;re <i>both</i> back, well, look out.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we need to apologize to Sheff. He needs to apologize to us, to the tune of a .900 OPS over the next 4 months.</p>
<p>&#8220;Put it all together, Nate has been pretty unlucky. That’s the only thing I see&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to beat on Nate the Solid/Mediocre Reliable/Disappointing. I don&#8217;t want to beat on Mark the Perceptive and Thoughtful, either. But what is luck for a pitcher, and how far can you take accounting for the discrepancy between actual and expected with luck? I don&#8217;t see hitters getting that same write-off. A hit&#8217;s a hit, and you get no extra credit for smoking the ball into the third baseman&#8217;s glove.</p>
<p>Look at Nate&#8217;s 2008 splits on hit location and hit trajectory. These numbers interest me, but I&#8217;m not expert enough to come up with anything but (surely) very hokey theories on what it all means. Help me out. Someone. Anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The KC guys oftentimes aren’t paying attention to the game, as they are playing canasta and eating tapioca (i.e. their combined age is 186).&quot;

Even with no reference point (what would I know about the KC announcers?), that made me laugh out loud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The KC guys oftentimes aren’t paying attention to the game, as they are playing canasta and eating tapioca (i.e. their combined age is 186).&#8221;</p>
<p>Even with no reference point (what would I know about the KC announcers?), that made me laugh out loud.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>West Coast Tiger; your trivia on Tommy Brown intrigued me so I googled him. This guy had a fascinating career and life. Before he began playing baseball he had been working on the docks since the age of 12 and after his baseball playing days, he worked at a Ford glass plant for 35 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>West Coast Tiger; your trivia on Tommy Brown intrigued me so I googled him. This guy had a fascinating career and life. Before he began playing baseball he had been working on the docks since the age of 12 and after his baseball playing days, he worked at a Ford glass plant for 35 years.</p>
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