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	<title>Comments on: Game 63:  Indians at Tigers</title>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/06/game-63-indians-at-tigers/#comment-89290</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good idea with Van Slyke... he could even run if Inge hits it, probably nobody would notice that it wasn&#039;t Cabrera or Ordonez or somebody out there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good idea with Van Slyke&#8230; he could even run if Inge hits it, probably nobody would notice that it wasn&#8217;t Cabrera or Ordonez or somebody out there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/06/game-63-indians-at-tigers/#comment-89286</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coleman - I wonder if the other teams would be kind enough to let Andy Van Slyke stand on 1B when Inge is up. As long as we don&#039;t tell them why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coleman &#8211; I wonder if the other teams would be kind enough to let Andy Van Slyke stand on 1B when Inge is up. As long as we don&#8217;t tell them why.</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/06/game-63-indians-at-tigers/#comment-89277</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inge-nuity...

So how does Inge manage &quot;clutch&quot; numbers like that and still drag along with a sub .230 and dropping avg (not to mention the whiffery)?  

He&#039;s horrid with bases empty.  In 76 AB with bases empty (out of 130 AB total:  yes that&#039;s the price of batting behind DIDP Rodriguez) he is hitting .158 (!!) with 25 K&#039;s. (?!!) (out of his 36 total K&#039;s)

Or putting it another way, his strikeout avg is .329 !!  Last year is similar, but less dramatic (.205 empty vs. .277 with runners, .295 strikeout avg).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inge-nuity&#8230;</p>
<p>So how does Inge manage &#8220;clutch&#8221; numbers like that and still drag along with a sub .230 and dropping avg (not to mention the whiffery)?  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s horrid with bases empty.  In 76 AB with bases empty (out of 130 AB total:  yes that&#8217;s the price of batting behind DIDP Rodriguez) he is hitting .158 (!!) with 25 K&#8217;s. (?!!) (out of his 36 total K&#8217;s)</p>
<p>Or putting it another way, his strikeout avg is .329 !!  Last year is similar, but less dramatic (.205 empty vs. .277 with runners, .295 strikeout avg).</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/06/game-63-indians-at-tigers/#comment-89276</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Coleman. Only your cool RBI with RISP per AB was new to me. 

Everyone, hold your nose and repeat after me:

BRANDON INGE HAS BEEN GOOD FOR THE TIGERS IN 2008.

It&#039;s true. At the plate, at 3B, at C, as one of the Granderson replacements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Coleman. Only your cool RBI with RISP per AB was new to me. </p>
<p>Everyone, hold your nose and repeat after me:</p>
<p>BRANDON INGE HAS BEEN GOOD FOR THE TIGERS IN 2008.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true. At the plate, at 3B, at C, as one of the Granderson replacements.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/06/game-63-indians-at-tigers/#comment-89275</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>judpma

Didn&#039;t mean to sound like I was taking you to task with the Ordonez stats, at least not in a know-it-all sort of way. I gave Kathy 8 hours to come to Magglio&#039;s defense, and when she didn&#039;t appear, I feared for his safety. 

I&#039;m no hero. I just did what any of you would have done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>judpma</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t mean to sound like I was taking you to task with the Ordonez stats, at least not in a know-it-all sort of way. I gave Kathy 8 hours to come to Magglio&#8217;s defense, and when she didn&#8217;t appear, I feared for his safety. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m no hero. I just did what any of you would have done.</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/06/game-63-indians-at-tigers/#comment-89272</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Brandon Inge is just godawful as a regular.”

I’d like to see the Tigers trade Inge, myself, if only they could. But look deeper into his stats and you’d be in for a surprise. Note Coleman’s earlier stat:

RBI per AB with RISP:

Inge: .571
Cabrera: .424&quot;

Sean: Not to mention, now that you post Ordonez&#039; soft--but team leading--stats:

Ordonez .869 OPS with RISP
Inge  .921 OPS with RISP

Ordonez, .464 slugging with RISP, tops among Tigers regulars
Inge  .500 slugging with RISP

I&#039;m not saying Inge is tearing it up, but if we draw the line above Inge-level that doesn&#039;t leave us enough guys to field a team right now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Brandon Inge is just godawful as a regular.”</p>
<p>I’d like to see the Tigers trade Inge, myself, if only they could. But look deeper into his stats and you’d be in for a surprise. Note Coleman’s earlier stat:</p>
<p>RBI per AB with RISP:</p>
<p>Inge: .571<br />
Cabrera: .424&#8243;</p>
<p>Sean: Not to mention, now that you post Ordonez&#8217; soft&#8211;but team leading&#8211;stats:</p>
<p>Ordonez .869 OPS with RISP<br />
Inge  .921 OPS with RISP</p>
<p>Ordonez, .464 slugging with RISP, tops among Tigers regulars<br />
Inge  .500 slugging with RISP</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying Inge is tearing it up, but if we draw the line above Inge-level that doesn&#8217;t leave us enough guys to field a team right now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: judpma</title>
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		<dc:creator>judpma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Sean...most be too much of that non supporting cast I see everyday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Sean&#8230;most be too much of that non supporting cast I see everyday!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave BW</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/06/game-63-indians-at-tigers/#comment-89261</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave BW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what happens when I can&#039;t watch a game on Comcast.  The bullpen looks to have been phenomenal, though -- Rapada with 3 IP?  Bautista with 2?  Seay with 2?  Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what happens when I can&#8217;t watch a game on Comcast.  The bullpen looks to have been phenomenal, though &#8212; Rapada with 3 IP?  Bautista with 2?  Seay with 2?  Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question TSmith, I honestly can&#039;t remember.  What stuck in my mind:

a) His knee was still bothering him.
b) His command wasn&#039;t all that great and he walked a few.
c) His pitched a lot worse than his stat line.  He was fooling noone as there were quite of few outs in which the Clippers hit the ball right on the screws, just at people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question TSmith, I honestly can&#8217;t remember.  What stuck in my mind:</p>
<p>a) His knee was still bothering him.<br />
b) His command wasn&#8217;t all that great and he walked a few.<br />
c) His pitched a lot worse than his stat line.  He was fooling noone as there were quite of few outs in which the Clippers hit the ball right on the screws, just at people.</p>
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		<title>By: T Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>greg,

watching the last Toledo game, was Willis EVER in a 0-2 count, or a 1-2 count?   Just curious how often he was ahead in the count vs. behind in the count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>greg,</p>
<p>watching the last Toledo game, was Willis EVER in a 0-2 count, or a 1-2 count?   Just curious how often he was ahead in the count vs. behind in the count.</p>
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		<title>By: T Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think ron is somewhat containing his enthusiasm now... just wait until the euphoria of the Red Wings wears off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think ron is somewhat containing his enthusiasm now&#8230; just wait until the euphoria of the Red Wings wears off.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-Smith 

Post on Willis is 100% dead on.  As someone who saw his next to last rehab start, no way was he ready.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T-Smith </p>
<p>Post on Willis is 100% dead on.  As someone who saw his next to last rehab start, no way was he ready.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/06/game-63-indians-at-tigers/#comment-89211</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one, Ron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one, Ron.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Brandon Inge is just godawful as a regular.&quot;

I&#039;d like to see the Tigers trade Inge, myself, if only they could. But look deeper into his stats and you&#039;d be in for a surprise. Note Coleman&#039;s earlier stat:

RBI per AB with RISP:

Inge: .571
Cabrera: .424</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Brandon Inge is just godawful as a regular.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see the Tigers trade Inge, myself, if only they could. But look deeper into his stats and you&#8217;d be in for a surprise. Note Coleman&#8217;s earlier stat:</p>
<p>RBI per AB with RISP:</p>
<p>Inge: .571<br />
Cabrera: .424</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C. in Illinois</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/06/game-63-indians-at-tigers/#comment-89209</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean C. in Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;is Ordonez hitting the softest .316 in baseball&quot;

Maggs is a leading man with a very weak supporting cast. Some stats:

.869 OPS with RISP
.464 slugging with RISP, tops among Tigers regulars
20 2-out RBI, far and away tops on the team
.946 OPS with 2 outs
.838 OPS with 2 outs and RISP

He was also one of only 2 regulars to hit better than .250 during the long losing streaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;is Ordonez hitting the softest .316 in baseball&#8221;</p>
<p>Maggs is a leading man with a very weak supporting cast. Some stats:</p>
<p>.869 OPS with RISP<br />
.464 slugging with RISP, tops among Tigers regulars<br />
20 2-out RBI, far and away tops on the team<br />
.946 OPS with 2 outs<br />
.838 OPS with 2 outs and RISP</p>
<p>He was also one of only 2 regulars to hit better than .250 during the long losing streaks.</p>
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