Comments on: Shuffling the deck and rehab news http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:11:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chris http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87304 Chris Sat, 31 May 2008 16:45:22 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87304 "Chris - look at Robertson’s game log. He has been remarkably consistent. More than any other starter." Yes, you are right. What I should have said is that Robertson hasn't been very consistently effective as a starter. He has been consistently mediocre-to-OK. I do think he's done a good enough job to justify his spot in the rotation. “Chris – look at Robertson’s game log. He has been remarkably consistent. More than any other starter.”

Yes, you are right. What I should have said is that Robertson hasn’t been very consistently effective as a starter. He has been consistently mediocre-to-OK. I do think he’s done a good enough job to justify his spot in the rotation.

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87301 Mark in Chicago Sat, 31 May 2008 16:39:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87301 I think it's interesting that Leyland is suddenly not concerned about hurting anyone's ego now that Sheffield is on the DL and can't participate anyway. I'm not saying there's a connection, but it's a curious coincidence. I think it’s interesting that Leyland is suddenly not concerned about hurting anyone’s ego now that Sheffield is on the DL and can’t participate anyway. I’m not saying there’s a connection, but it’s a curious coincidence.

]]> By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87281 Kathy Sat, 31 May 2008 13:12:27 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87281 Sounds good to me. Leland's doing the best job he can at this point in the junction. Poor Carlos, he's getting shoved all around the diamond, but the guy can hit and if anyone can turn him into a LF, it's VanSlyke. Moving Miggs down to the 6 spot is probably a good decision too because it takes some pressure off him and probably pisses him off. Hopefully, Inge has proven he belongs at 3rd and will work on hitting. I'm pretty excited about it. Once Rodney and Zoom come back you know some of the pitchers are gonna go. It will be interesting to see Dontrelle pitch again. Hope he's got it together! Sounds good to me. Leland’s doing the best job he can at this point in the junction. Poor Carlos, he’s getting shoved all around the diamond, but the guy can hit and if anyone can turn him into a LF, it’s VanSlyke. Moving Miggs down to the 6 spot is probably a good decision too because it takes some pressure off him and probably pisses him off. Hopefully, Inge has proven he belongs at 3rd and will work on hitting. I’m pretty excited about it. Once Rodney and Zoom come back you know some of the pitchers are gonna go. It will be interesting to see Dontrelle pitch again. Hope he’s got it together!

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87280 billfer Sat, 31 May 2008 13:04:25 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87280 Chris - look at Robertson's game log. He has been remarkably consistent. More than any other starter. Chris – look at Robertson’s game log. He has been remarkably consistent. More than any other starter.

]]> By: ScottyD http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87278 ScottyD Sat, 31 May 2008 11:28:56 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87278 Leyland is also saying Dontrelle is replacing Galaraga, which we all knew was coming. He's in a tough spot with that ... he has got a stable of veteran starters. It would cause a lot of problems if he demoted Rogers or Nate to the pen. Playing Guillen in left is laughable. Has the guy ever played the outfield? Why is it that everyone else in the free world can see that Guillen should be the full time DH and Leyland can't? And make up your mind what the hell you are doing with Inge .... PLEASE! Is he the heir apparent to Pudge? If so, let him catch half the games. Screw Pudge, he can't freakin hit anymore anyway. If not, stick him at third base and leave him the hell alone! Arghhhhhhhhhh! Leyland is also saying Dontrelle is replacing Galaraga, which we all knew was coming. He’s in a tough spot with that … he has got a stable of veteran starters. It would cause a lot of problems if he demoted Rogers or Nate to the pen.

Playing Guillen in left is laughable. Has the guy ever played the outfield? Why is it that everyone else in the free world can see that Guillen should be the full time DH and Leyland can’t? And make up your mind what the hell you are doing with Inge …. PLEASE! Is he the heir apparent to Pudge? If so, let him catch half the games. Screw Pudge, he can’t freakin hit anymore anyway. If not, stick him at third base and leave him the hell alone!

Arghhhhhhhhhh!

]]> By: Rick G http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87272 Rick G Sat, 31 May 2008 10:38:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87272 Guillen to play outfield: From Jason Beck at <a href="http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080531&content_id=2805836&vkey=news_det&fext=.jsp&c_id=det" rel="nofollow">MLB.com</a> --------------------------- The other situation that needed a solution was at third base, where Leyland hoped to find ways to work in Brandon Inge without taking Carlos Guillen out of the lineup. With that in mind, Leyland revealed that Guillen has been taking fly balls with outfield coach Andy Van Slyke. "Whatever's best for the team," Guillen said. --------------------------- Guillen to play outfield:

From Jason Beck at MLB.com
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The other situation that needed a solution was at third base, where Leyland hoped to find ways to work in Brandon Inge without taking Carlos Guillen out of the lineup. With that in mind, Leyland revealed that Guillen has been taking fly balls with outfield coach Andy Van Slyke.

“Whatever’s best for the team,” Guillen said.
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]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87271 Mike R Sat, 31 May 2008 07:52:11 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87271 Robertson's pitched well enough all year long to be in the rotation. He's got a 4.19 xFIP, about a 2.5 K:BB ratio, all while have below average defense behind him and a below average left on base percentage. He's got a high WHIP but that's due to the hits allowed largely due to his substandard defense behind him (the defensive efficiency ratio [DER], the rate at which balls in play are turned into outs by a pitcher's defense, is .652 where the league average is .699. The possibilities I can think of are: Rogers to the pen, Willis to the rotation, Galarraga sent down (unwarranted), Robertson to the pen (unwarranted). What we may be missing, though, is indirectly changing the pitching staff by the defense that plays behind it. Maybe Inge is at 3rd full time? Maybe He starts playing SS more? Guillen to the DH spot permanently? Robertson’s pitched well enough all year long to be in the rotation. He’s got a 4.19 xFIP, about a 2.5 K:BB ratio, all while have below average defense behind him and a below average left on base percentage. He’s got a high WHIP but that’s due to the hits allowed largely due to his substandard defense behind him (the defensive efficiency ratio [DER], the rate at which balls in play are turned into outs by a pitcher’s defense, is .652 where the league average is .699.

The possibilities I can think of are: Rogers to the pen, Willis to the rotation, Galarraga sent down (unwarranted), Robertson to the pen (unwarranted).

What we may be missing, though, is indirectly changing the pitching staff by the defense that plays behind it. Maybe Inge is at 3rd full time? Maybe He starts playing SS more? Guillen to the DH spot permanently?

]]> By: Chris http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87268 Chris Sat, 31 May 2008 07:28:47 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87268 At this point, I don't know how you can take either Robertson or Rogers out, given their recent performances. Robertson was shakey tonight, but he wasn't disastrous and ultimately got the job done. Rogers was downright dominant against the Angels this week. Certainly, if either one of those guys falter in their next outing, then a change may be warranted. Neither have been consistent. But on the other hand, Willis would hardly be an upgrade. I don't know what the hell they are going to do with the guy. At this point, I don’t know how you can take either Robertson or Rogers out, given their recent performances. Robertson was shakey tonight, but he wasn’t disastrous and ultimately got the job done. Rogers was downright dominant against the Angels this week. Certainly, if either one of those guys falter in their next outing, then a change may be warranted. Neither have been consistent. But on the other hand, Willis would hardly be an upgrade. I don’t know what the hell they are going to do with the guy.

]]> By: Sean C. in Illinois http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87264 Sean C. in Illinois Sat, 31 May 2008 06:42:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87264 It's encouraging to hear Jim Leyland saying these things, much more so than hearing mea culpas (without specifics), "we're just not getting it done, I don't know why," and "I'm confused." But it's also hard to know how to take it, given some earlier rumblings about "drastic" changes that didn't amount to anything very drastic. Significant to me are the following words/phrases: "People angry." "Egos." "Great group of guys." "They'll go along with it." "My general manager has given me a hell of a team here." "Patient to a fault." I expect something bigger than Cabrera dropping a slot in the batting order. Things involving Sheffield, Inge, Rodriguez, Guillen, and Cabrera, I'd imagine. More playing time for Santiago at SS? Pitching-wise, I don't know at all. Some kind of rotating #4-#5 starter thing with the lefties? Willis into the rotation, Robertson or Rogers out? It’s encouraging to hear Jim Leyland saying these things, much more so than hearing mea culpas (without specifics), “we’re just not getting it done, I don’t know why,” and “I’m confused.” But it’s also hard to know how to take it, given some earlier rumblings about “drastic” changes that didn’t amount to anything very drastic.

Significant to me are the following words/phrases: “People angry.” “Egos.” “Great group of guys.” “They’ll go along with it.” “My general manager has given me a hell of a team here.” “Patient to a fault.”

I expect something bigger than Cabrera dropping a slot in the batting order. Things involving Sheffield, Inge, Rodriguez, Guillen, and Cabrera, I’d imagine. More playing time for Santiago at SS? Pitching-wise, I don’t know at all. Some kind of rotating #4-#5 starter thing with the lefties? Willis into the rotation, Robertson or Rogers out?

]]> By: Chris http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87263 Chris Sat, 31 May 2008 06:15:59 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/shuffling-the-deck-and-rehab-news/#comment-87263 I'm not sure what Leyland means by making changes. I can't believe that putting Miggy down in the order is it. I applaud the idea, but I'd hardly consider that worth making the statement above. I'm wondering if there is something in the works regarding Dontrelle Willis. Right now he is occupying a roster spot as a reliever, but because of his problem throwing strikes, there isn't many opportunities to stick him in and have him walk batters in late innings. I’m not sure what Leyland means by making changes. I can’t believe that putting Miggy down in the order is it. I applaud the idea, but I’d hardly consider that worth making the statement above.

I’m wondering if there is something in the works regarding Dontrelle Willis. Right now he is occupying a roster spot as a reliever, but because of his problem throwing strikes, there isn’t many opportunities to stick him in and have him walk batters in late innings.

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