Comments on: Game 54: Tigers at Mariners http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: tiff http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87320 tiff Sat, 31 May 2008 19:21:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87320 can we request a move to the AL West? It works for the Red Wings. can we request a move to the AL West? It works for the Red Wings.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87299 ron Sat, 31 May 2008 16:19:13 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87299 Fire Leyland. Fire Leyland.

]]> By: Sean C. in Illinois http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87262 Sean C. in Illinois Sat, 31 May 2008 06:03:43 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87262 I conceived and phrased the question poorly, Mark. I'll try again: My luck has been rather good at catching the Tigers when they win. The Tigers "luck" overall has been bad. Let's say that Detroit is 7-4 with me, and 16-27 without me. If we pretend that changing my luck would change the Tigers luck in equal proportion, what's the best that could happen to improve the Tigers record over the next 54 games? That's the math part, and there may be more than one answer. Whatever the answer is, the "just for fun" part is to select the games I will have to watch. For example, if the Tigers went 27-16 when I didn't watch as a "result" of going 4-7 when I did, which 7 games over the next 54 are the Tigers most likely to lose? (So I can be sure to watch them and hold up my end of the bargain.) It's all very silly. Something to ponder over the All Star break, maybe. Or during a Mariners series. But... was that clearer? I conceived and phrased the question poorly, Mark. I’ll try again:

My luck has been rather good at catching the Tigers when they win. The Tigers “luck” overall has been bad. Let’s say that Detroit is 7-4 with me, and 16-27 without me.

If we pretend that changing my luck would change the Tigers luck in equal proportion, what’s the best that could happen to improve the Tigers record over the next 54 games? That’s the math part, and there may be more than one answer.

Whatever the answer is, the “just for fun” part is to select the games I will have to watch. For example, if the Tigers went 27-16 when I didn’t watch as a “result” of going 4-7 when I did, which 7 games over the next 54 are the Tigers most likely to lose? (So I can be sure to watch them and hold up my end of the bargain.)

It’s all very silly. Something to ponder over the All Star break, maybe. Or during a Mariners series. But… was that clearer?

]]> By: Sean C. in Illinois http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87261 Sean C. in Illinois Sat, 31 May 2008 05:41:23 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87261 Good summary, Mark. I hit all the high and low points as I saw them. In a disorganized way. I was in a hurry to get to press! Vince summarized even more of the game with a single letter (see posts above). Good summary, Mark.

I hit all the high and low points as I saw them. In a disorganized way. I was in a hurry to get to press!

Vince summarized even more of the game with a single letter (see posts above).

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87260 Mark in Chicago Sat, 31 May 2008 05:33:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87260 jeez, sean. i'm not even sure i understand your question.... jeez, sean. i’m not even sure i understand your question….

]]> By: Sean C. in Illinois http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87259 Sean C. in Illinois Sat, 31 May 2008 05:32:06 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87259 Mark in Chicago - I'm 7-3! Or 7-4, can't remember. 7-3 seems better, so I'll take it. Can you believe it? I think I need to fatten up on these Mariners games, and then take a long break. Someone do the math here: If I'm 7-3 (.700), and Tigers are 23-31 (.426), how can I best arrange to go 1-9 so that the Tigers turn their record around to that same degree over the nest 54 games? And which 9 games (if that many) are the Tigers going to lose? I need to schedule "watching" these losses in advance, so please be prompt, like before Game 55. Mark in Chicago – I’m 7-3! Or 7-4, can’t remember. 7-3 seems better, so I’ll take it. Can you believe it? I think I need to fatten up on these Mariners games, and then take a long break.

Someone do the math here: If I’m 7-3 (.700), and Tigers are 23-31 (.426), how can I best arrange to go 1-9 so that the Tigers turn their record around to that same degree over the nest 54 games? And which 9 games (if that many) are the Tigers going to lose? I need to schedule “watching” these losses in advance, so please be prompt, like before Game 55.

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87258 Mark in Chicago Sat, 31 May 2008 05:16:38 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87258 Sean, that is an interesting collection of seemingly random thoughts. But since I missed 99% of this game it looks like a good recap to me. Let me see if I can summarize: 7 runs early = good no runs later = bad nate = good with only 6 baserunners allowed nate = bad somehow allowing typical 4 runs miner = supposed to be bad miner = actually good jones = very good ( isaw this part, actually) leyland = wtf?? Sean, that is an interesting collection of seemingly random thoughts. But since I missed 99% of this game it looks like a good recap to me. Let me see if I can summarize:

7 runs early = good
no runs later = bad
nate = good with only 6 baserunners allowed
nate = bad somehow allowing typical 4 runs
miner = supposed to be bad
miner = actually good
jones = very good ( isaw this part, actually)
leyland = wtf??

]]> By: Sean C. in Illinois http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87257 Sean C. in Illinois Sat, 31 May 2008 05:09:44 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87257 OK. let's get the complaining out of the way first. When was 7 runs, 14 hits, last so dull? Why slow down the game with hits when you can't get anyone home, guys? Let's wrap it up, here, eh? A whopping 2 walks, I see. Way for Clete "Grinder" Thomas to work that pitcher. Guess you've gotta swing while you can when you won't be here long. What happened with Cabrera getting doubled up like that? Who made the error? I want him off the team. Robertson is so mediocre, he makes me nervous. I never feel comfortable with him pitching. 7 runs, 19 runs, whatever. Only 4 hits, only 2 walks, and still 4 runs. I hope he will be eating innings somewhere else before the end of the year. Maybe in the NL, where he might be able to excel. It seemed like they pitched Larish like Joyce in that last strikeout AB. Hmmm. Hitting prowess in the International league may be a tad overrated. All right. Todd Jones was superb, Especially getting home run boy to pop out on the first pitch. Dolsi looked very good again. When Miner came in for the 8th, I thought: Leyland is so weird. He should have a separate co-manager to handle pitching for him. After Miner got 'em 1-2-3, I thought; Leyland is so weird. He should have a separate co-manager to handle pitching for him. But Miner was good. Maybe this was another audition for 8th Inning Guy. Great to have that 1st inning explosion. No complaints there, and how exciting. Even though I missed that part. The bullpen really came through tonight. After Nate couldn't even finish the 6th. always a bad omen for what's to come, they closed the door. I give them equal credit (along with the part-time offense) for the win. Nate gets no credit. 2 K, 2 BB, 495 fly balls. OK. let’s get the complaining out of the way first. When was 7 runs, 14 hits, last so dull? Why slow down the game with hits when you can’t get anyone home, guys? Let’s wrap it up, here, eh? A whopping 2 walks, I see. Way for Clete “Grinder” Thomas to work that pitcher. Guess you’ve gotta swing while you can when you won’t be here long. What happened with Cabrera getting doubled up like that? Who made the error? I want him off the team. Robertson is so mediocre, he makes me nervous. I never feel comfortable with him pitching. 7 runs, 19 runs, whatever. Only 4 hits, only 2 walks, and still 4 runs. I hope he will be eating innings somewhere else before the end of the year. Maybe in the NL, where he might be able to excel. It seemed like they pitched Larish like Joyce in that last strikeout AB. Hmmm. Hitting prowess in the International league may be a tad overrated.

All right. Todd Jones was superb, Especially getting home run boy to pop out on the first pitch. Dolsi looked very good again. When Miner came in for the 8th, I thought: Leyland is so weird. He should have a separate co-manager to handle pitching for him. After Miner got ‘em 1-2-3, I thought; Leyland is so weird. He should have a separate co-manager to handle pitching for him. But Miner was good. Maybe this was another audition for 8th Inning Guy. Great to have that 1st inning explosion. No complaints there, and how exciting. Even though I missed that part. The bullpen really came through tonight. After Nate couldn’t even finish the 6th. always a bad omen for what’s to come, they closed the door. I give them equal credit (along with the part-time offense) for the win. Nate gets no credit. 2 K, 2 BB, 495 fly balls.

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87256 Mark in Chicago Sat, 31 May 2008 05:05:45 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87256 Courtesy of Jason Beck: <blockquote cite="">Leyland has planned what he called a "significant" move involving his pitching staff, but he doesn't want to announce it until he has told the players involved.</blockquote> did anybody discuss this yet? speculate? what's the deal here? Courtesy of Jason Beck:

Leyland has planned what he called a “significant” move involving his pitching staff, but he doesn’t want to announce it until he has told the players involved.

did anybody discuss this yet? speculate? what’s the deal here?

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87255 Mark in Chicago Sat, 31 May 2008 04:57:34 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87255 kurt, are you the guy running mack ave tigers? i dig that site, i'm over there every day (although i don't post). great work! i know what you mean about "better judgement". i had a feeling after the whole leyland blowup a few weeks ago that it was almost time to buy low on this team. following the solid starting pitching and the well-played series in anaheim (even though we lost the series) i feel like it's time. hope they don't make me look like a fool. kurt, are you the guy running mack ave tigers? i dig that site, i’m over there every day (although i don’t post). great work!

i know what you mean about “better judgement”. i had a feeling after the whole leyland blowup a few weeks ago that it was almost time to buy low on this team. following the solid starting pitching and the well-played series in anaheim (even though we lost the series) i feel like it’s time.

hope they don’t make me look like a fool.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87254 Kurt Sat, 31 May 2008 04:51:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87254 Honestly Mark, and against my better judgment, I think the Tigers do still have it in them to go 20-7 or something like that. Dunno if they will, but I would not call it a surprise if they did. Honestly Mark, and against my better judgment, I think the Tigers do still have it in them to go 20-7 or something like that. Dunno if they will, but I would not call it a surprise if they did.

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87253 Mark in Chicago Sat, 31 May 2008 04:48:47 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87253 for those who may have missed it (and actually give a crap) i predicted a big june for the tigers, something like a 20-7 month. so yeah, i'm saying the tigers will be over .500 by the end of june. fire away, folks. (i am aware it's not June yet, we're just gettin gwarmed up is all) for those who may have missed it (and actually give a crap) i predicted a big june for the tigers, something like a 20-7 month. so yeah, i’m saying the tigers will be over .500 by the end of june.

fire away, folks.

(i am aware it’s not June yet, we’re just gettin gwarmed up is all)

]]> By: Sky http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87252 Sky Sat, 31 May 2008 04:47:03 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87252 Well, shut my mouth! They did hang on.....Guess I am just too nervous! Well, shut my mouth! They did hang on…..Guess I am just too nervous!

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87251 Mark in Chicago Sat, 31 May 2008 04:46:19 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87251 ok so i missed virtually the entire game tonight, but i think i just turned on the wrong channel because i just watch some closer get a 1-2-3 ninth inning on like 10 pitches. that can't be jones. who the hell did i just watch? ok so i missed virtually the entire game tonight, but i think i just turned on the wrong channel because i just watch some closer get a 1-2-3 ninth inning on like 10 pitches.

that can’t be jones. who the hell did i just watch?

]]> By: Dave BW http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87250 Dave BW Sat, 31 May 2008 04:46:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/05/game-54-tigers-at-mariners/#comment-87250 Todd ends the game with a strikeout. Two game win streak!!! Todd ends the game with a strikeout. Two game win streak!!!

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