Tigers Minor League Wrap 4-30-08

Toledo 3 Louisville 4
Matt Joyce was 2 for 4. Erick Almonte singled and homered. Jon Connolly allowed 4 runs, 2 of which were earned, in 6.2 innings.

Erie 4 Akron 8
Wilkin Ramirez who homered twice yesterday was a homer short of the cycle today. Deik Scram and Ryan Roberson each had 2 hits and Scram added 2 walks.Andrew Kown allowed 4 runs on 4 walks, 4 K’s, and 6 hits in 5 innings.

Lakeland 5 Dunedin 6
Rick Porcello pitched 4 innings of shut out ball before allowing 2 runs in the 5th. He walked 3 and didn’t fan anybody. Ryan Strieby had 3 hits, including a homer, and a walk. Jeramy Laster bested him with 2 homers and a single.

West Michigan 6 Wisconsin 1
I just noticed that every team in the org is on the road tonight. Joe Tucker had 4 hits. Kody Kaiser doubled and homered. Kyle Peter singled twice and doubled. Lauren Gagnier fanned 11 in 6 shut out innings of work.


  1. Greg

    April 30, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    Hey Bilfer, how about posting the records of the Detroit affiliates with each score? Just a suggestion.

  2. Jeff M

    May 1, 2008 at 10:05 am

    I’ll second the motion, Greg.

    I don’t care much about the minors, but I would like to have a general idea about which clubs are doing well. Anything you can do (without diverting much attention from the big league club) to give a terse macro perspective would be cool.

    Maybe a bi-weekly summary that includes things like overall record, division ranking, record in last 10 games, standout players, struggling players, etc.

    That’s just a wish list though. Low priority.

    Keep up the good work.

  3. greg

    May 1, 2008 at 10:22 am

    I’ll offer a different take on this. Actually, I LOVE this part of the the blog. I love hearing about who is doing what in the minors and its absolutely great not HAVING to scour numerous websites/boxscores to see who is doing what if I don’t have to, yet having the convenient links to dig further if I so choose. Saves me time and gives me a nice, quick snapshot of some of the highlights. I personally have no interest in the records of the minor league clubs(neither do the players btw, all they care about is getting to the next level, which I can understand), but don’t see any harm in including it. More knowledge is always a good thing.

    Thanks for the Minor League wraps Bilfer!

  4. Matt in Toledo

    May 1, 2008 at 11:41 am

    I don’t want to speak for Billfer, but I can tell you that even posting what looks like a cursory look at the minors probably takes at least a half an hour.

    That may not sound like a lot, and adding team records may not add much to it, but those half hour daily activities add up. That’s especially true when you have a number of other daily posts that also take a half hour or more.

    I can also say, because I’ve tried doing them in the past at my site, doing bi-weekly updates on the minor league teams is a big job if you’re going to make it very useful. You’re talking about a two or three hour post and when you’re busy, posts that size come very quickly even if they’re once a month.

    Again, I don’t want to speak for Billfer and if he wants to add a little minor league content to all he does here, I’ll be the first to applaud him. I just wanted to give some insight into why he may prefer to say, “I’ll take those suggestions under advisement.” Besides, if he decides not to devote more time to Tiger minor leaguers, I know this other site….


  5. Jeff M

    May 1, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    Greg, I didn’t mean to imply that he should stop doing the Minor League Wraps. I know there are some people here that enjoy them and that’s cool.

    I was just saying that they’re too detailed to be useful for because I don’t read enough of them to comprehend any trends. That’s why I was thinking that the occasional summary post would be useful to those of us that want a macro view of the minors.

    Matt, I’m only looking for the very basic, half hour post you allude to in your first sentence and if Billfer’s already maxed out, that’s totally cool with me. I come for the game posts and analysis and I’m about as loyal as they come. If I get anything more than that, it’s a bonus.

    But who knows, maybe this spurs some collaboration between you? Maybe Billfer could pull back a little bit and do weekly recaps while allowing you to guest-post some equivalent of the daily wraps.

    It’s all just thinking out loud, though. I’ll be here regardless.

  6. Greg

    May 1, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Sorry to create a maelstrom — and there are too many Gregs. My original idea was merely a parenthetical after the Mud Hens’ score that said their record.

    I don’t think this site is intended to be comprehensive for the entire organization — we’ll lose the details on the big club. “If you try to be everything, you end up being nothing.” (paraphrasing what someone said after the Shaq trade to Phoenix).

    Let’s leave the minor league details to Matt, but it shouldn’t take much effort to include records — and that might spark more interest in Matt’s site.

  7. billfer

    May 1, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    Matt had it pretty much dead on. It takes me about 4-6 minutes per game depending on how interesting it is from a stat perspective. So a typical night this time of year is about 20 minutes. But then it starts to take over a half hour once the short season leagues start up and then there are the nights with double headers. It does add up, especially at 11pm when I’m waking up at 4:30 the next morning (after having woken up at 4:30 that day). I’d be happy to include the records if they were with the box scores, but they aren’t. It would mean another 2-3 clicks and waiting for pages to load for each team. It sounds minor but like Matt said it adds up.

    I don’t want to sound like a jerk, and I do appreciate the suggestion. It’s a good one and it makes sense. But between keeping abreast of 150 different baseball websites, moderating comments, doing pregame and post game commentary on game threads, answering email, handling back end stuff like the template and software upgrades and database back-ups, selling advertsing, marketing the blog, and then doing some original content which typically involves manipulating a lot of data, my hobby is maxing out my time as it is. I’m not looking for sympathy or anything, but I just wanted you to understand that I’m not blowing off what seems like a simple request.

  8. Vince in MN

    May 1, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    Get your minor leagues fix here:


  9. Kevin in Austin

    May 1, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    I love the MiLB posts as is. Minor league records are a waste of time. I’m more interested in who is hitting and pitching. Keep up the good work Billfer.

  10. Greg

    May 1, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    I understand, no problem. I assumed the records were with the boxscores.

    Kevin, I disagree that the records are a waste of time. They obviously aren’t very telling about individual performances and potential prospects. But I support the Tigers — and their affiliates — and want to seem them do well. They aren’t a waste of time from the perspective of a fan of the organization.

  11. Mike R

    May 2, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Don’t listen to Matt in Toledo, he’s just lobbying for more traffic at his site! 😉