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	<title>Comments on: Is it wrong to pop champagne in April?</title>
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		<title>By: Mark in Chicago</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/is-it-wrong-to-pop-champagne-in-april/#comment-79436</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark in Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tigers have to play .539 ball in order to be at .500 (I assumed a record of 42-42) by the All-Star break.  This is not an impossible pace, it translates to 87 wins over a 162-game season.

Chris, you&#039;re right that it reduces our margin for error, but only modestly, since this streak occured so early in the season.  BP puts their postseason odds (using PECOTA) at 43%.  This is not much different than a coin flip, which is about what the odds were at the beginning of the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tigers have to play .539 ball in order to be at .500 (I assumed a record of 42-42) by the All-Star break.  This is not an impossible pace, it translates to 87 wins over a 162-game season.</p>
<p>Chris, you&#8217;re right that it reduces our margin for error, but only modestly, since this streak occured so early in the season.  BP puts their postseason odds (using PECOTA) at 43%.  This is not much different than a coin flip, which is about what the odds were at the beginning of the season.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt at CMU</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt at CMU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t get to see the game until the pistons game was over, but I think that Bondo&#039;s fastballs at 91-92 are his two seamers.  I seem to recall reading that he is trying to throw this pitch more often to get ground balls earlier in counts as opposed to striking everyone out, in order to keep his pitch count down.  
Did he not throw any 4 seamers at around 95-96 last night?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get to see the game until the pistons game was over, but I think that Bondo&#8217;s fastballs at 91-92 are his two seamers.  I seem to recall reading that he is trying to throw this pitch more often to get ground balls earlier in counts as opposed to striking everyone out, in order to keep his pitch count down.<br />
Did he not throw any 4 seamers at around 95-96 last night?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/is-it-wrong-to-pop-champagne-in-april/#comment-79434</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If that’s true, then this was never a playoff team to begin with. If they’re the 95 win team everyone expected them to be, then they should get back to .500 much sooner than the All-Star break.&quot;

I disagree. 

Most winning teams go long stretches in the season at 500. The Red Sox were a 500 winning team for almost three months last year.

The &#039;06 Twins and the &#039;07 Yankees are examples of teams that were near or below the 500 mark at the allstar break and cought fire in the second half. Twins did it with pitching, but the Yanks did it by turning into an offensive football team and scoring touchdowns almost every night. If there is any potential for the &#039;08 Tigers to do the same, it would likely be simular to the Yanks of &#039;07.

The unfortunate thing about this early stumble into 1-7 is that the Tigers have to be a relativly hot team in order to just get at 500. And then we have to hope that there is no other slump in the season anywhere close to this or the one last August.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If that’s true, then this was never a playoff team to begin with. If they’re the 95 win team everyone expected them to be, then they should get back to .500 much sooner than the All-Star break.&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree. </p>
<p>Most winning teams go long stretches in the season at 500. The Red Sox were a 500 winning team for almost three months last year.</p>
<p>The &#8216;06 Twins and the &#8216;07 Yankees are examples of teams that were near or below the 500 mark at the allstar break and cought fire in the second half. Twins did it with pitching, but the Yanks did it by turning into an offensive football team and scoring touchdowns almost every night. If there is any potential for the &#8216;08 Tigers to do the same, it would likely be simular to the Yanks of &#8216;07.</p>
<p>The unfortunate thing about this early stumble into 1-7 is that the Tigers have to be a relativly hot team in order to just get at 500. And then we have to hope that there is no other slump in the season anywhere close to this or the one last August.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan in Brooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan in Brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with rings, et al.  FREE MARCUS THAMES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with rings, et al.  FREE MARCUS THAMES!</p>
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		<title>By: T Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/is-it-wrong-to-pop-champagne-in-april/#comment-79431</link>
		<dc:creator>T Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not such a huge hole -- especially relative to the aforementioned contenders -- but I&#039;m not so sure KC will sink to the cellar as quickly as expected.  They may be the surprise team in the Central this year.

If the game yesterday marks the upside direction of whatever funk they were in, it&#039;s no big deal at all.  The real question is, how many cylinders will this team fire on from out here on out?  If the offense is akin to the legendary Ferrari 60° V12 engine with two overhead camshafts, I would say yesterday there was spark in about 6 or 7 of those cylinders -- enough for a win against a team not necessarily on their A-game.   We could be 2 games up by the end of April if we start firing on 9, 10, or 11 cylinders and continue to do so for a significant stretch.  Then again, these high-preformance engines tend to easily break down and/or require continual tweeking/maintenence.  Let&#039;s hope the analogy isn&#039;t too accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not such a huge hole &#8212; especially relative to the aforementioned contenders &#8212; but I&#8217;m not so sure KC will sink to the cellar as quickly as expected.  They may be the surprise team in the Central this year.</p>
<p>If the game yesterday marks the upside direction of whatever funk they were in, it&#8217;s no big deal at all.  The real question is, how many cylinders will this team fire on from out here on out?  If the offense is akin to the legendary Ferrari 60° V12 engine with two overhead camshafts, I would say yesterday there was spark in about 6 or 7 of those cylinders &#8212; enough for a win against a team not necessarily on their A-game.   We could be 2 games up by the end of April if we start firing on 9, 10, or 11 cylinders and continue to do so for a significant stretch.  Then again, these high-preformance engines tend to easily break down and/or require continual tweeking/maintenence.  Let&#8217;s hope the analogy isn&#8217;t too accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt makes a good point.  We&#039;ve had the worst combination of performance and luck in the league so far, but we should remember that other good teams struggle on occasion, too.

Was thinking about that last night when Mario and Rod were talk about Ortiz&#039;s .094 batting average (Rod: &quot;That&#039;s a bingo number!&quot;).  Good hitters go into slumps; it&#039;s just that all of ours did it at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt makes a good point.  We&#8217;ve had the worst combination of performance and luck in the league so far, but we should remember that other good teams struggle on occasion, too.</p>
<p>Was thinking about that last night when Mario and Rod were talk about Ortiz&#8217;s .094 batting average (Rod: &#8220;That&#8217;s a bingo number!&#8221;).  Good hitters go into slumps; it&#8217;s just that all of ours did it at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not exactly sure I&#039;d call 2.5 games behind the Yanks, BoSox and Indians a big hole. The Tigers got very lucky that all the main competitors stumbled as well, because it certainly could have been a big hole. 

Somehow I don&#039;t think that Kansas City in first place thing is going to continue all year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not exactly sure I&#8217;d call 2.5 games behind the Yanks, BoSox and Indians a big hole. The Tigers got very lucky that all the main competitors stumbled as well, because it certainly could have been a big hole. </p>
<p>Somehow I don&#8217;t think that Kansas City in first place thing is going to continue all year.</p>
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		<title>By: Mith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Chris&quot;&gt;We will be lucky if this team is 500 by the all-star break.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If that&#039;s true, then this was never a playoff team to begin with.  If they&#039;re the 95 win team everyone expected them to be, then they should get back to .500 much sooner than the All-Star break.

I know everyone is giddy about this game, but I think everyone will be back in the dumps if they lose tonight.  It&#039;s a big deal for them to string together a nice 8 out of 10 or something similar to make up the lost ground quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Chris"><p>We will be lucky if this team is 500 by the all-star break.</p></blockquote>
<p>If that&#8217;s true, then this was never a playoff team to begin with.  If they&#8217;re the 95 win team everyone expected them to be, then they should get back to .500 much sooner than the All-Star break.</p>
<p>I know everyone is giddy about this game, but I think everyone will be back in the dumps if they lose tonight.  It&#8217;s a big deal for them to string together a nice 8 out of 10 or something similar to make up the lost ground quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Thursday Bullets &#124; UMHoops.com</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/is-it-wrong-to-pop-champagne-in-april/#comment-79425</link>
		<dc:creator>Thursday Bullets &#124; UMHoops.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Tigers finally won a game Not going 0-162. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25% of today&#039;s comments are from Chrises all across the country. That is the stat of the day. Go Tigers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25% of today&#8217;s comments are from Chrises all across the country. That is the stat of the day. Go Tigers.</p>
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		<title>By: tiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if Leyland likes home runs, he should consider putting Thames in the lineup a little more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if Leyland likes home runs, he should consider putting Thames in the lineup a little more often.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Favorite Leyland quote in the paper today (Detroit News) regarding Thames - 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;He&#039;s hit a home run off him [Wakefield],&quot; Leyland said. &quot;I like home runs, and he&#039;s hit a lot of them.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Favorite Leyland quote in the paper today (Detroit News) regarding Thames &#8211; </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;He&#8217;s hit a home run off him [Wakefield],&#8221; Leyland said. &#8220;I like home runs, and he&#8217;s hit a lot of them.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p> <img src='http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this win was a big relief, but there is nothing to celebrate here is April. Assuming the perfect storm of multiple player slumps is over, the Tigers now find themselves in a big hole they have to crawl out of if they are going to contend.  The margin for error is gone and we can only hope that this slump is indeed over and there isn&#039;t another one this year. We will be lucky if this team is 500 by the all-star break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this win was a big relief, but there is nothing to celebrate here is April. Assuming the perfect storm of multiple player slumps is over, the Tigers now find themselves in a big hole they have to crawl out of if they are going to contend.  The margin for error is gone and we can only hope that this slump is indeed over and there isn&#8217;t another one this year. We will be lucky if this team is 500 by the all-star break.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well for what it&#039;s worth, E-Rent (sorry, had to channel my inner Linda Cohn there) hit at a .276/.335/.385 clip in Boston.  Kind of meh.  Especially if you consider the 30 hatchet jobs in the field.  I&#039;ve heard scouts remark about his declining arm strength, which causes him to play shallower at short thereby causing more balls to get by him.  If he hits like last night, though, he&#039;ll make up for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well for what it&#8217;s worth, E-Rent (sorry, had to channel my inner Linda Cohn there) hit at a .276/.335/.385 clip in Boston.  Kind of meh.  Especially if you consider the 30 hatchet jobs in the field.  I&#8217;ve heard scouts remark about his declining arm strength, which causes him to play shallower at short thereby causing more balls to get by him.  If he hits like last night, though, he&#8217;ll make up for it.</p>
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		<title>By: T Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see Renteria mash a bit.  But one development that is somewhat unsettling to see unfold is Renteria&#039;s defense.  He has yet to look comfortable at the position, as far as I can tell, and Guillen had to pick far too many routine throws.   Bad throws across the diamond/Guillen at first bespeaks of impending errors any way you slice it....  

By the way, the Beantown announcers pointed out something I was unaware of -- I assumed Renteria&#039;s lost season in a Sox uniform was based on his lack of offense -- according to them, however, Renteria&#039;s main failure at Boston was not due to lackluster offense (although it was down somewhat from carreer numbers) but completely sub-par defense.  When Renteria doubled, they specifically mentioned that his approach at the plate was reminescent of his approach when he hit at Fenway in a Sox uniform.  Then they pointed out he made 30 errors and came unglued defensively, implying defensive production was what drove him out of town on a rail, not a lack of offensive production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see Renteria mash a bit.  But one development that is somewhat unsettling to see unfold is Renteria&#8217;s defense.  He has yet to look comfortable at the position, as far as I can tell, and Guillen had to pick far too many routine throws.   Bad throws across the diamond/Guillen at first bespeaks of impending errors any way you slice it&#8230;.  </p>
<p>By the way, the Beantown announcers pointed out something I was unaware of &#8212; I assumed Renteria&#8217;s lost season in a Sox uniform was based on his lack of offense &#8212; according to them, however, Renteria&#8217;s main failure at Boston was not due to lackluster offense (although it was down somewhat from carreer numbers) but completely sub-par defense.  When Renteria doubled, they specifically mentioned that his approach at the plate was reminescent of his approach when he hit at Fenway in a Sox uniform.  Then they pointed out he made 30 errors and came unglued defensively, implying defensive production was what drove him out of town on a rail, not a lack of offensive production.</p>
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