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		<title>By: Mark L</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/injury-roundup/#comment-81361</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to remember Guillen playing 2nd a long time ago with the Mariners.  But can he play it now?  It could be almost as ugly as his fielding at short.  I'd rather see Raburn, Inge, Sizemore, Santiago, Hollimon at 2nd.  As for replacing Sheff, it's pretty easy, we place Inge at 3rd and Cabrera and Guillen share 1st and DH duties.
As for the Jair/Hernandez for Renteria trade, it looked very good at the time.  We got a quality shortstop for two unknown commodities.  Jair pitched well in limited action, but was having injury problems too.  Now the Braves are happy it worked out well for them.  Renteria filled a need, and is doing it well.  If this trade looks badly in five years it will be because Jurrjens' (and maybe Hernandez's) potential came through and Renteria got too old.  We gave up a potentially very good pitcher (and we thought we had a lot of pitching at the time) for a proven shortstop.
If you want to criticize a trade, criticize the one for Cabrera/Dontrelle.  Because it may have weakened our young pitching, which was already weakened by the previous trade.  But I'm still hoping Dontrelle can get things figured out.  If not, let's look into a new pitching coach.
Honestly, I'd like to clean house with our coaching and training staff.  Keep Leyland for his player personality management skills (and because there isn't anyone better out there).  Give him a bench coach for lineup/bullpen/other in-game decisions.  Find a new pitching coach, hitting coach, training staff and get this team performing up to its potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to remember Guillen playing 2nd a long time ago with the Mariners.  But can he play it now?  It could be almost as ugly as his fielding at short.  I&#8217;d rather see Raburn, Inge, Sizemore, Santiago, Hollimon at 2nd.  As for replacing Sheff, it&#8217;s pretty easy, we place Inge at 3rd and Cabrera and Guillen share 1st and DH duties.<br />
As for the Jair/Hernandez for Renteria trade, it looked very good at the time.  We got a quality shortstop for two unknown commodities.  Jair pitched well in limited action, but was having injury problems too.  Now the Braves are happy it worked out well for them.  Renteria filled a need, and is doing it well.  If this trade looks badly in five years it will be because Jurrjens&#8217; (and maybe Hernandez&#8217;s) potential came through and Renteria got too old.  We gave up a potentially very good pitcher (and we thought we had a lot of pitching at the time) for a proven shortstop.<br />
If you want to criticize a trade, criticize the one for Cabrera/Dontrelle.  Because it may have weakened our young pitching, which was already weakened by the previous trade.  But I&#8217;m still hoping Dontrelle can get things figured out.  If not, let&#8217;s look into a new pitching coach.<br />
Honestly, I&#8217;d like to clean house with our coaching and training staff.  Keep Leyland for his player personality management skills (and because there isn&#8217;t anyone better out there).  Give him a bench coach for lineup/bullpen/other in-game decisions.  Find a new pitching coach, hitting coach, training staff and get this team performing up to its potential.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince in MN</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/injury-roundup/#comment-81344</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince in MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry Bonds is still available!


Just kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Bonds is still available!</p>
<p>Just kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: scotsw</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/injury-roundup/#comment-81271</link>
		<dc:creator>scotsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see Dombrowski spending big money on Bonds. He's got legal troubles and would be a cancer in this dugout. No doubt his power would be welcome, but is he actually worth his price? Thomas might be more likely, but if Sheffield is only gone 15 days, I think you're more likely to see DH-by-platoon, and a callup of Hesseman or Larish.

I doubt Inge is going anywhere -- with our dinged up personnel, his versatility makes him worth every cent we're paying him (yeah, I said it!). He may be playing a lot of 3B if Cabrera keeps making a meal of it, and Sheff and Polanco keep hurting. The reality is that Raburn or Santiago are fine options for this team at 2nd. Santiago's defense is near gold-glove, and he doesn't hurt you as a #9 hitter with speed and the ability to lay down a nice bunt. And don't count Inge out as a long-term replacement at 2nd (if he's not needed elsewhere).

I also miss Jair Jurrjens, but Renteria has hit in 9 of the last 10 games and seems to be shaking off the rust defensively. This team needed a quality shortstop, and they don't fall out of trees, folks. I don't blame Dombrowski for making that move -- but you wonder if a different move would have worked out better. Jurrjens is turning into a real gem, isn't he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see Dombrowski spending big money on Bonds. He&#8217;s got legal troubles and would be a cancer in this dugout. No doubt his power would be welcome, but is he actually worth his price? Thomas might be more likely, but if Sheffield is only gone 15 days, I think you&#8217;re more likely to see DH-by-platoon, and a callup of Hesseman or Larish.</p>
<p>I doubt Inge is going anywhere &#8212; with our dinged up personnel, his versatility makes him worth every cent we&#8217;re paying him (yeah, I said it!). He may be playing a lot of 3B if Cabrera keeps making a meal of it, and Sheff and Polanco keep hurting. The reality is that Raburn or Santiago are fine options for this team at 2nd. Santiago&#8217;s defense is near gold-glove, and he doesn&#8217;t hurt you as a #9 hitter with speed and the ability to lay down a nice bunt. And don&#8217;t count Inge out as a long-term replacement at 2nd (if he&#8217;s not needed elsewhere).</p>
<p>I also miss Jair Jurrjens, but Renteria has hit in 9 of the last 10 games and seems to be shaking off the rust defensively. This team needed a quality shortstop, and they don&#8217;t fall out of trees, folks. I don&#8217;t blame Dombrowski for making that move &#8212; but you wonder if a different move would have worked out better. Jurrjens is turning into a real gem, isn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: Neal in San Diego</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/injury-roundup/#comment-81253</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal in San Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why talk about Thomas, if you can get Bonds, at least he could play some left, be it in a lawn chair. Let him play a 4th outfielder with Grandy, Maggs, and Inge (actually Cabera should be out there instead).
Is Pudge done? How about getting Inge ready as the go to backstop by the end of July unless Pudge picks it up?
I liked the Sheff deal when it happened, so I can't say anything about that. However, the Renteria trade was us just getting older, as I said once before.
Isn't Guillen perfect as power 2nd basemen, a better Jeff Kent, and as a bonus, not a big Ahole either. He just seems somewhat wasted playing 1st if we could get a power bat to play there, not Sean Casey. I know we still have Palanco, and can Guillen even paly 2nd.
Just ideas to comment on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why talk about Thomas, if you can get Bonds, at least he could play some left, be it in a lawn chair. Let him play a 4th outfielder with Grandy, Maggs, and Inge (actually Cabera should be out there instead).<br />
Is Pudge done? How about getting Inge ready as the go to backstop by the end of July unless Pudge picks it up?<br />
I liked the Sheff deal when it happened, so I can&#8217;t say anything about that. However, the Renteria trade was us just getting older, as I said once before.<br />
Isn&#8217;t Guillen perfect as power 2nd basemen, a better Jeff Kent, and as a bonus, not a big Ahole either. He just seems somewhat wasted playing 1st if we could get a power bat to play there, not Sean Casey. I know we still have Palanco, and can Guillen even paly 2nd.<br />
Just ideas to comment on.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave BW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave BW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike R --

It's already ugly.  Considering the numbers those guys are putting up right now, almost any change is a win-win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike R &#8211;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s already ugly.  Considering the numbers those guys are putting up right now, almost any change is a win-win.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/injury-roundup/#comment-81247</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm also very curious about the training especially since Grandy is complaining about leg pains.  I mean the guy "only" had a broken finger which doesn't exactly mean bed rest.  I wondered why he wasn't out there warming up with the guys, doing sprints, leg lifts with weights, and running bases while the healing process takes place.  His legs should have been kept up to speed IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also very curious about the training especially since Grandy is complaining about leg pains.  I mean the guy &#8220;only&#8221; had a broken finger which doesn&#8217;t exactly mean bed rest.  I wondered why he wasn&#8217;t out there warming up with the guys, doing sprints, leg lifts with weights, and running bases while the healing process takes place.  His legs should have been kept up to speed IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/injury-roundup/#comment-81245</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GO PISTONS AND WINGS!</description>
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		<title>By: cib</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/injury-roundup/#comment-81240</link>
		<dc:creator>cib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Losing Jair, might turn out to be the worst trade ever.  I am NOT HAPPY.  
Let's hire Frank Thomas to hit the ball.  Who cares if he's cheerful or not.  This is becoming a debacle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Losing Jair, might turn out to be the worst trade ever.  I am NOT HAPPY.<br />
Let&#8217;s hire Frank Thomas to hit the ball.  Who cares if he&#8217;s cheerful or not.  This is becoming a debacle.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Kzoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in Kzoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God Mike R, and I thought I was a pessimist.  LOL

I like the idea of Thomas for cheap league minimum or 1 million should do the trick since he is getting 8-12 million from the Jays(I think?)  Plus he heats up after April so get him while we can.

Bonds I still don't know.  I don't know how the fans would react it just seems like he wouldn't fit here at all.   Detroit sports fans are too proud of their teams to have baggage like that come into town.

Larrish hey it could work you never know.  He is killing the ball down in AAA.  So that could work.

Although I like Raburn and Santiago, I think a call up of Scott Sizemore would be great and give the kid a chance to hit in the bigs. He, like JJ and Maybin of '07, is just killing AA pitching and giving it his all.  I mean I still think that he is Polly's heir to 2B after he leaves.

What ever happens I just hope Mike R's little possible prediction doesnt come to fold.  Because if it does, it WILL be a LONG hot nasty and GLOOMY summer for Tigers fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God Mike R, and I thought I was a pessimist.  LOL</p>
<p>I like the idea of Thomas for cheap league minimum or 1 million should do the trick since he is getting 8-12 million from the Jays(I think?)  Plus he heats up after April so get him while we can.</p>
<p>Bonds I still don&#8217;t know.  I don&#8217;t know how the fans would react it just seems like he wouldn&#8217;t fit here at all.   Detroit sports fans are too proud of their teams to have baggage like that come into town.</p>
<p>Larrish hey it could work you never know.  He is killing the ball down in AAA.  So that could work.</p>
<p>Although I like Raburn and Santiago, I think a call up of Scott Sizemore would be great and give the kid a chance to hit in the bigs. He, like JJ and Maybin of &#8216;07, is just killing AA pitching and giving it his all.  I mean I still think that he is Polly&#8217;s heir to 2B after he leaves.</p>
<p>What ever happens I just hope Mike R&#8217;s little possible prediction doesnt come to fold.  Because if it does, it WILL be a LONG hot nasty and GLOOMY summer for Tigers fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike R</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/injury-roundup/#comment-81228</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the right price, I like grabbing Frank Thomas, as that adds insurance because I think Sheffield is down the same road as Fernando Rodney -- a.k.a. he's done with his shoulder.

But, Thomas eats up your entire DH spot whenever he plays because he's not a 1B, so that means you take him out of the lineup whenever you want to give Guillen a half day off. I'm okay with Larish but not exactly thrilled. Who knows, though. Maybe Larish comes up and goes on a Timo Perez circal August 2007 tear.

My BIGGEST concern right now, aside from Justin Verlander's velocity, is the fact that Bonderman's control is so uncharacteristically bad that it looks like the 2nd half of last year when he was hiding a bum elbow.

I would not be surprised if I revisit this post in a month and the DL looks something like:

Polanco
Sheffield (60 day)
Verlander
Bonderman

It could get ugly, and in a hurry, for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the right price, I like grabbing Frank Thomas, as that adds insurance because I think Sheffield is down the same road as Fernando Rodney &#8212; a.k.a. he&#8217;s done with his shoulder.</p>
<p>But, Thomas eats up your entire DH spot whenever he plays because he&#8217;s not a 1B, so that means you take him out of the lineup whenever you want to give Guillen a half day off. I&#8217;m okay with Larish but not exactly thrilled. Who knows, though. Maybe Larish comes up and goes on a Timo Perez circal August 2007 tear.</p>
<p>My BIGGEST concern right now, aside from Justin Verlander&#8217;s velocity, is the fact that Bonderman&#8217;s control is so uncharacteristically bad that it looks like the 2nd half of last year when he was hiding a bum elbow.</p>
<p>I would not be surprised if I revisit this post in a month and the DL looks something like:</p>
<p>Polanco<br />
Sheffield (60 day)<br />
Verlander<br />
Bonderman</p>
<p>It could get ugly, and in a hurry, for us.</p>
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