Comments on: Game 9: Tigers at Red Sox http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:59:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Joey C. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79640 Joey C. Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:28:44 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79640 As for Renteria, I think it wasn't the best move in the world and I wasn't too excited about it at the time. However, to give DD a break on this, he had no idea that he was going to have the opportunity to scoop up Cabrera at the point he made the Renteria trade. I honestly wasn't counting on Sheff to do much this season, and that's largely why I wasn't too enthused about Renteria. I was adamant in my belief that we needed another slugger at a corner, and that if we landed that, we wouldn't need serious production out of short. But then we went ahead and landed Cabrera, and I was thrilled with the offseason. Like I said the other night, this team is gonna hit. I think that even if we assume that Sheff isn't going to be a masher, this offense still has more than enough punch to consider a deal that unloads a bat for pitching. But what bat is going to give us a return of a quality pitcher? Guillen is far less attractive as a first baseman than as a shortstop--especially if that glove doesn't improve. Nobody is gonna want Sheff until maybe the trade deadline--and that's only if he shows he is healthy enough to aid a contender. Inge and Thames have limited value. And although I agree with Stephen that DD could have made a more concerted effort to address the bullpen--clearly the biggest weakness on this team coming out of last season--I also agree with Mike R. that there isn't a whole lot of quality out there that teams were or will be willing to part with. Unfortunately, we're stuck with those pitchers currently in the organization. It's still April. I'll hold out hope that lightening strikes with one of them before the end of May and that Zumaya returns in shape enough to help by the middle of the season. As for Renteria, I think it wasn’t the best move in the world and I wasn’t too excited about it at the time. However, to give DD a break on this, he had no idea that he was going to have the opportunity to scoop up Cabrera at the point he made the Renteria trade.

I honestly wasn’t counting on Sheff to do much this season, and that’s largely why I wasn’t too enthused about Renteria. I was adamant in my belief that we needed another slugger at a corner, and that if we landed that, we wouldn’t need serious production out of short. But then we went ahead and landed Cabrera, and I was thrilled with the offseason. Like I said the other night, this team is gonna hit. I think that even if we assume that Sheff isn’t going to be a masher, this offense still has more than enough punch to consider a deal that unloads a bat for pitching.

But what bat is going to give us a return of a quality pitcher? Guillen is far less attractive as a first baseman than as a shortstop–especially if that glove doesn’t improve. Nobody is gonna want Sheff until maybe the trade deadline–and that’s only if he shows he is healthy enough to aid a contender. Inge and Thames have limited value.

And although I agree with Stephen that DD could have made a more concerted effort to address the bullpen–clearly the biggest weakness on this team coming out of last season–I also agree with Mike R. that there isn’t a whole lot of quality out there that teams were or will be willing to part with.

Unfortunately, we’re stuck with those pitchers currently in the organization. It’s still April. I’ll hold out hope that lightening strikes with one of them before the end of May and that Zumaya returns in shape enough to help by the middle of the season.

]]> By: Joey C. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79639 Joey C. Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:11:44 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79639 Nothing like crappy play to juice up game threads. What an awesome thread! Nothing like crappy play to juice up game threads. What an awesome thread!

]]> By: Kevin in Austin http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79637 Kevin in Austin Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:28:21 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79637 I'd love to get Laird, Benoit + a catching prospect from Texas, maybe for Nate, and then turn around and trade Pudge for another bullpen arm (and unload his salary), assuming someone will take him. I also like the idea of moving Nate to the bullpen. He seems to have the right attitude, and you can't tell me that VV or someone else in Toledo can't get us through 5 innings. I’d love to get Laird, Benoit + a catching prospect from Texas, maybe for Nate, and then turn around and trade Pudge for another bullpen arm (and unload his salary), assuming someone will take him.

I also like the idea of moving Nate to the bullpen. He seems to have the right attitude, and you can’t tell me that VV or someone else in Toledo can’t get us through 5 innings.

]]> By: Kevin in Austin http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79636 Kevin in Austin Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:25:25 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79636 I just think that he's our most marketable commodity. This bullpen isn't going to fix itself, nor will the saviors rise through the farm system. We are in serious jeopardy of losing the pennant in May. I think something has to be done. Even if we pull out of this and get to .500, that doesn't change the elephant in the bullpen. I just think that he’s our most marketable commodity. This bullpen isn’t going to fix itself, nor will the saviors rise through the farm system. We are in serious jeopardy of losing the pennant in May. I think something has to be done. Even if we pull out of this and get to .500, that doesn’t change the elephant in the bullpen.

]]> By: tiff http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79631 tiff Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:00:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79631 Bizarro Tigers! Bizarro Tigers!

]]> By: cib http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79627 cib Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:22:15 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79627 Hi Tiff and everyone, it's hard to understand what's going on here, it's like the parallel universe. I mean, Guillen is tripping over first base, and Sean Casey is becoming a folk hero in Boston! I want my 2007 Tigers back. Hi Tiff and everyone, it’s hard to understand what’s going on here, it’s like the parallel universe. I mean, Guillen is tripping over first base, and Sean Casey is becoming a folk hero in Boston! I want my 2007 Tigers back.

]]> By: Dave BW http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79626 Dave BW Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:19:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79626 Super nuts. Super nuts.

]]> By: tiff http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79625 tiff Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:59:15 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79625 whoa whoa whoa... I know there is panic in Detroit, but trade Guillen? That's nuts. whoa whoa whoa… I know there is panic in Detroit, but trade Guillen? That’s nuts.

]]> By: Tony P http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79623 Tony P Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:58:03 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79623 I'll take responsibility for this one everybody. I'm ashamed to admit it but yesterday, I changed my underwear. I’ll take responsibility for this one everybody. I’m ashamed to admit it but yesterday, I changed my underwear.

]]> By: Keith in IA http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79619 Keith in IA Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:20:11 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79619 David: Because we've got at least one more player like him in Ryan Raburn who has shown he can play at this level. I've always liked Brandon too and don't really want to see him go, but his value his high now, and the bullpen needs help. Have we talked about that yet? David:

Because we’ve got at least one more player like him in Ryan Raburn who has shown he can play at this level. I’ve always liked Brandon too and don’t really want to see him go, but his value his high now, and the bullpen needs help. Have we talked about that yet?

]]> By: Kevin in Austin http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79617 Kevin in Austin Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:10:15 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79617 I'd love to trade Inge, Guillen or Sheffield. I don't think anyone wants Inge or Sheffield. I know that Guillen is a great player, but Thames can play 1B and I think Guillen is our best shot of getting two quality arms for the pen. W/o some help in the pen, we've got no shot at the playoffs this year. I’d love to trade Inge, Guillen or Sheffield. I don’t think anyone wants Inge or Sheffield. I know that Guillen is a great player, but Thames can play 1B and I think Guillen is our best shot of getting two quality arms for the pen. W/o some help in the pen, we’ve got no shot at the playoffs this year.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79616 David Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:08:16 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79616 Why would you trade one of the only guys on your team who is producing and has that much versatility. Then again Inge is my Tiger... Still his ABs are looking a lot better, he is making contact way more often oh and did I mention he has more power than he did? Hopefully this new stance/approach is here to stay Why would you trade one of the only guys on your team who is producing and has that much versatility.

Then again Inge is my Tiger…

Still his ABs are looking a lot better,

he is making contact way more often

oh and did I mention he has more power than he did?

Hopefully this new stance/approach is here to stay

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79614 ron Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:43:34 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79614 Man Keith, you beat me to the punch. Man Keith, you beat me to the punch.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79613 ron Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:41:47 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79613 And not one mention of Inge. You go, Brandon. And not one mention of Inge. You go, Brandon.

]]> By: Keith in IA http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79612 Keith in IA Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:39:21 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-9-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-79612 Where is all the "trade Inge" talk now when we need it? He hasn't done anything short of showing his versatility and value to other ball clubs these first nine games. Can Raburn catch? If so, I think we need to start shopping Brandon for a quality bullpen arm. And we should probably do it now before he goes into an 0-30 with 26 Ks slump. Where is all the “trade Inge” talk now when we need it? He hasn’t done anything short of showing his versatility and value to other ball clubs these first nine games. Can Raburn catch? If so, I think we need to start shopping Brandon for a quality bullpen arm. And we should probably do it now before he goes into an 0-30 with 26 Ks slump.

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