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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-4-white-sox-at-tigers/#comment-78552</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Adam&quot;&gt;
HIRE TRAM!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

:D  LOL</description>
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HIRE TRAM!</p></blockquote>
<p> <img src='http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HIRE TRAM!</description>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two years ago, we lose a world series to the stinkin&#039; Cards. Last year, we blow the whole season with a miserable August. Now...0 and 4. Why don&#039;t we get rid of Leyland before it&#039;s too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two years ago, we lose a world series to the stinkin&#8217; Cards. Last year, we blow the whole season with a miserable August. Now&#8230;0 and 4. Why don&#8217;t we get rid of Leyland before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw a portion of the game, but was Nate Robertson hitting the high 80&#039;s all day? I liked that contract we gave him but solely because I assumed he was healthy and going to be working around 91, like he has in the past. His breaking ball and offspeed pitch are not good enough to get by on hitting just 87-88 on the gun with his 4-seamer. If that&#039;s all he&#039;ll be topping out at from here on, we are in terrible shape with that deal. It&#039;ll put the Inge contract to shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a portion of the game, but was Nate Robertson hitting the high 80&#8242;s all day? I liked that contract we gave him but solely because I assumed he was healthy and going to be working around 91, like he has in the past. His breaking ball and offspeed pitch are not good enough to get by on hitting just 87-88 on the gun with his 4-seamer. If that&#8217;s all he&#8217;ll be topping out at from here on, we are in terrible shape with that deal. It&#8217;ll put the Inge contract to shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Forty</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-4-white-sox-at-tigers/#comment-78524</link>
		<dc:creator>Forty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather have an 0-4 team with a bunch of good players than a 4-0 team with a bunch of bad players...in a related story there&#039;s only 97.5% of the season left to go!

Also, is there a way to red flag anyone who complains about Cabrera.  I want some sort of scarlet letter to appear next to anyone&#039;s name who complains about him being injured already, or not hitting well right now, etc.  My guess is that letter will look a little silly over the next 8 years.  And sillier during his Hall of Fame induction.

Lastly, in solidarity with Stephen (as it never gets old) -- trade Maybin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather have an 0-4 team with a bunch of good players than a 4-0 team with a bunch of bad players&#8230;in a related story there&#8217;s only 97.5% of the season left to go!</p>
<p>Also, is there a way to red flag anyone who complains about Cabrera.  I want some sort of scarlet letter to appear next to anyone&#8217;s name who complains about him being injured already, or not hitting well right now, etc.  My guess is that letter will look a little silly over the next 8 years.  And sillier during his Hall of Fame induction.</p>
<p>Lastly, in solidarity with Stephen (as it never gets old) &#8212; trade Maybin!</p>
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		<title>By: T Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the bottom line:

It doesn&#039;t matter who&#039;s coming to town or who we&#039;re playing the rest of April.  If we play like we have played the past four games, it won&#039;t matter who we play.   We&#039;re going finish dead last in this division and win 70 games at best.  Be it Bosox, Yankees, Indians, whoever.  We won&#039;t be able to beat anybody.  

If the starting pitching shows up on the same day as the offense, and if we actually don&#039;t leave a gazillion runners in scoring position, and if we actually manage to get some clutch hits, two out hits, and if lead-off doubles come around to score every now and then -- we can beat Bosox, Yankees, the Indians, and anybody else we play.  It doesn&#039;t matter who we play -- it matters HOW we play.  0-4 isn&#039;t the end of the world, as long as the team shows up to play the next game.   For that matter if we were 4-0 today and the team I&#039;ve watched the past four outings shows up to play for the rest of this month, we&#039;d still be 7-20 thru the first six weeks.  

We just need to play.  That means no 2-19 stretches for Polly -- that means Mags has to step up his game and get the clutch hit when we need it instead of bouncing into double plays (does he have any RBI yet?)  that means no Jones masqueraying as Monroe, that means Renteria coming through when there is a runner on third with only one out, and that means the Tigers have to play like a playoff team.   In theory, that should be more than possible... I only hope the team shows up before they dig such a huge hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the bottom line:</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter who&#8217;s coming to town or who we&#8217;re playing the rest of April.  If we play like we have played the past four games, it won&#8217;t matter who we play.   We&#8217;re going finish dead last in this division and win 70 games at best.  Be it Bosox, Yankees, Indians, whoever.  We won&#8217;t be able to beat anybody.  </p>
<p>If the starting pitching shows up on the same day as the offense, and if we actually don&#8217;t leave a gazillion runners in scoring position, and if we actually manage to get some clutch hits, two out hits, and if lead-off doubles come around to score every now and then &#8212; we can beat Bosox, Yankees, the Indians, and anybody else we play.  It doesn&#8217;t matter who we play &#8212; it matters HOW we play.  0-4 isn&#8217;t the end of the world, as long as the team shows up to play the next game.   For that matter if we were 4-0 today and the team I&#8217;ve watched the past four outings shows up to play for the rest of this month, we&#8217;d still be 7-20 thru the first six weeks.  </p>
<p>We just need to play.  That means no 2-19 stretches for Polly &#8212; that means Mags has to step up his game and get the clutch hit when we need it instead of bouncing into double plays (does he have any RBI yet?)  that means no Jones masqueraying as Monroe, that means Renteria coming through when there is a runner on third with only one out, and that means the Tigers have to play like a playoff team.   In theory, that should be more than possible&#8230; I only hope the team shows up before they dig such a huge hole.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. 1 positive. Carlos Guillen is among the leaders (albeit after 4 games) in many hitting categories. I&#039;m trying hard and struggling to find anything positive to hang on to with these guys. 

Tomorrow, please show us a glimmer of hope that the offense, defense, and pitching can show up on the same day. Is that too much to ask for???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. 1 positive. Carlos Guillen is among the leaders (albeit after 4 games) in many hitting categories. I&#8217;m trying hard and struggling to find anything positive to hang on to with these guys. </p>
<p>Tomorrow, please show us a glimmer of hope that the offense, defense, and pitching can show up on the same day. Is that too much to ask for???</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

I think everyone is waiting with baited breath on this year&#039;s issue of the Tigers.  I, too, am hoping that they don&#039;t disappoint.  

With the money spent and expectations (by us fans - not the overhyped media) a bad Tigers season in 2008 could justifiably be worse than that 2003 debacle.

Hey, there&#039;s always the Detroit Lions, right?  Oh yeah, they&#039;re still owned by the Fords and Millen hasn&#039;t been ridden out of town on a rail.

C&#039;mon Tigers, don&#039;t make this summer suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>I think everyone is waiting with baited breath on this year&#8217;s issue of the Tigers.  I, too, am hoping that they don&#8217;t disappoint.  </p>
<p>With the money spent and expectations (by us fans &#8211; not the overhyped media) a bad Tigers season in 2008 could justifiably be worse than that 2003 debacle.</p>
<p>Hey, there&#8217;s always the Detroit Lions, right?  Oh yeah, they&#8217;re still owned by the Fords and Millen hasn&#8217;t been ridden out of town on a rail.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon Tigers, don&#8217;t make this summer suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

I agree with you about getting something to wake these guys up. Maybe they ate too much surf and turf in Lakeland. Maybe this is just what they need to get hungry again. It&#039;s just painful to see them losing to the teams they are losing to after the additions to the team.

It&#039;s a long season, so there is hope. However, if we don&#039;t right the ship soon, this season could turn into a marathon like &#039;03. Then, I won&#039;t have anything to look forward to in the fall, except the debacle that is taking place in Ann Arbor. AAHHH!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>I agree with you about getting something to wake these guys up. Maybe they ate too much surf and turf in Lakeland. Maybe this is just what they need to get hungry again. It&#8217;s just painful to see them losing to the teams they are losing to after the additions to the team.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a long season, so there is hope. However, if we don&#8217;t right the ship soon, this season could turn into a marathon like &#8217;03. Then, I won&#8217;t have anything to look forward to in the fall, except the debacle that is taking place in Ann Arbor. AAHHH!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

Your a real glass is half empty kind of fellow, eh? ;)

There are no easy games this year.  When the Tigers spent big bucks to buy the same caliber talent as the Red Sox and Yankees they also purchased the same target that both those teams wear on their backs.  

Every other team in the majors plays you as though it were a deciding playoff game.  No one wants to be a doormat for the Tigers going to the world series.

This team needs to forget about having one of the highest payrolls in the league and just go out there and play the game.

I&#039;m ready for a &quot;we just plain stunk&quot; tirade from the cigarette smoking man.  Or at least have him drop a lit cigarette down Grilli&#039;s jock.  Something needs to be done to light a fire under this team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>Your a real glass is half empty kind of fellow, eh? <img src='http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There are no easy games this year.  When the Tigers spent big bucks to buy the same caliber talent as the Red Sox and Yankees they also purchased the same target that both those teams wear on their backs.  </p>
<p>Every other team in the majors plays you as though it were a deciding playoff game.  No one wants to be a doormat for the Tigers going to the world series.</p>
<p>This team needs to forget about having one of the highest payrolls in the league and just go out there and play the game.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m ready for a &#8220;we just plain stunk&#8221; tirade from the cigarette smoking man.  Or at least have him drop a lit cigarette down Grilli&#8217;s jock.  Something needs to be done to light a fire under this team.</p>
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		<title>By: cib</title>
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		<dc:creator>cib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt:  Hey!  But you might be right, I won&#039;t be back til the 15th and I&#039;m not going to watch tomorrow.

SS Cecil:  Right about Polanco; without Curtis I think everyone&#039;s rhythm and tone is just off.  Going back to my mantra, the second I heard about that finger breaking, I said it was a bad omen.  I wish I had not been right.

Still forlorn, but it&#039;s good to have company!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt:  Hey!  But you might be right, I won&#8217;t be back til the 15th and I&#8217;m not going to watch tomorrow.</p>
<p>SS Cecil:  Right about Polanco; without Curtis I think everyone&#8217;s rhythm and tone is just off.  Going back to my mantra, the second I heard about that finger breaking, I said it was a bad omen.  I wish I had not been right.</p>
<p>Still forlorn, but it&#8217;s good to have company!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scary part about this is that before the season started, these first 6 games were almost the only easy ones I saw on the schedule for the first 6 -7 weeks. The next 30 games don&#039;t get much easier. We go to Boston next for their home opener and WS ring ceremony (Red Sox Nation Party!!!). Then, we play these same White Sux in Chicago. Then, the Twins stop in at the CoPa before we go play the Tribe and the Jays. We get a slight breather when the Rangers come to town, but then close out the month with a visit from the Angels and a trip to the Bronx. 

We could go 0 for April. Realistically, we are probably looking at 7-20 by May at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scary part about this is that before the season started, these first 6 games were almost the only easy ones I saw on the schedule for the first 6 -7 weeks. The next 30 games don&#8217;t get much easier. We go to Boston next for their home opener and WS ring ceremony (Red Sox Nation Party!!!). Then, we play these same White Sux in Chicago. Then, the Twins stop in at the CoPa before we go play the Tribe and the Jays. We get a slight breather when the Rangers come to town, but then close out the month with a visit from the Angels and a trip to the Bronx. </p>
<p>We could go 0 for April. Realistically, we are probably looking at 7-20 by May at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Sideshow Cecil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sideshow Cecil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things no one has mentioned:

1.) Polanco - stinks right now. Let&#039;s not give this guy a free pass. Everything is a pop up to RF or a grounder to SS. With no Granderson, he takes on a bigger role and it&#039;s a bad time for him to be in a slump. Hopefully it&#039;s just a slump and not the end of his miraculous contact rate. 

2.) Guillen in the 3-hole. I wasn&#039;t happy with Leyland choosing Sheff to bat 3rd and Cabrera to bat 5th, and I was hoping that the finger injury would at least allow Cabrera to move into the 3 slot. He&#039;s just a better hitter than anyone else on the team (and almost anyone in baseball). We need to maximize his AB&#039;s. Didn&#039;t matter today, he and Carlos had about the same production, but I thought Miguel looked a lot better doing it - hit a rope into RF for his single, took some borderline pitches for balls. 

Finally, Nate was pretty bad. We wouldn&#039;t be talking about Grilli&#039;s inning if Nate could&#039;ve pitched into the sixth. Everything was up and flat. Even the two K&#039;s to open the game were flat sliders up in the zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things no one has mentioned:</p>
<p>1.) Polanco &#8211; stinks right now. Let&#8217;s not give this guy a free pass. Everything is a pop up to RF or a grounder to SS. With no Granderson, he takes on a bigger role and it&#8217;s a bad time for him to be in a slump. Hopefully it&#8217;s just a slump and not the end of his miraculous contact rate. </p>
<p>2.) Guillen in the 3-hole. I wasn&#8217;t happy with Leyland choosing Sheff to bat 3rd and Cabrera to bat 5th, and I was hoping that the finger injury would at least allow Cabrera to move into the 3 slot. He&#8217;s just a better hitter than anyone else on the team (and almost anyone in baseball). We need to maximize his AB&#8217;s. Didn&#8217;t matter today, he and Carlos had about the same production, but I thought Miguel looked a lot better doing it &#8211; hit a rope into RF for his single, took some borderline pitches for balls. </p>
<p>Finally, Nate was pretty bad. We wouldn&#8217;t be talking about Grilli&#8217;s inning if Nate could&#8217;ve pitched into the sixth. Everything was up and flat. Even the two K&#8217;s to open the game were flat sliders up in the zone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave BW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave BW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about, Ryan? Surely these four games are representative of the season as a whole.  My guess is that the Tigers will go 0-162 while the Nationals will wrap it up with 122-40.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about, Ryan? Surely these four games are representative of the season as a whole.  My guess is that the Tigers will go 0-162 while the Nationals will wrap it up with 122-40.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Timo and Thomas keep hitting so we can keep a very short leash on Jones. I would rather see Marcus starting and bat .250 with 30 home runs, but it seems the Tigers are intent on having that left-handed bat in the lineup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Timo and Thomas keep hitting so we can keep a very short leash on Jones. I would rather see Marcus starting and bat .250 with 30 home runs, but it seems the Tigers are intent on having that left-handed bat in the lineup.</p>
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