Comments on: Game 23: Rangers at Tigers

By: Andre

Andre — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:31:07 +0000

tiff - are you involved in Law at all (i ask because of the “re:”)?

By: Kathy

Kathy — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:55:35 +0000

Tiff’s right on with that. Inge hasn’t said anything publicly for quite a while. Alot of times he’ll do radio interviews but I haven’t heard a peep out of him lately. But I’m not gonna hold my breath.

By: tiff

tiff — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:06:49 +0000

re: the “livid” quote.. I really think they were reusing old quotes from Spring Training in an attempt to make a story. None of the local media had any quotes mentioning anything from Inge and you know he is their go-to guy when they want to cause some controversy.

By: Andre

Andre — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:13:39 +0000

Greg - isn’t it just as reasonable to assume that, when he reacts like that to runners he’s responsible for scoring, he’s angry at himself for letting the team down, and isn’t directing that towards the bullpen? I would think that was a fairly normal reaction to have. You think the reliever on the mound would appreciate that reaction when it wasn’t Bondo’s guys scoring? Seems to me that if Bondo was trashing the dugout when a reliever was giving up their own earned runs would be a huge disrespect.

By: greg

greg — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:04:02 +0000

Well, to be honest, that’s really all we have to go on with most of what we talk about here, our observations and our interpretation of our observations.

And you’re right, there could be some explanation why he throws things in the dugout and/or slams things around, on more than one occassion, and every single time I’ve observed it, its only when it effects him personally(W or earned run charged to him), and yet, I’ve never seen him one single time ever react that way when he doesn’t have a personal stake(not that it hasn’t happened, but with as many games as I’ve seen, you’d think I’d see it at least once).

Its also true that if something looks like a duck, acts like a duck, sounds like a duck…….it might not be a duck.

But call me crazy, and I could be wrong, but I still say ‘quack’!

I think, and I’m not alone in this, that it disrespects his teammate. If I were any reliever on the Tigers team, I’d have about as much love for Bondo as Renteria does for Orlando Cabrera. In fact, I’m surprised we haven’t seen Miner or another reliever get into a Zambrano/Barrett type fight with Bondo.

But you’re right, there’s no way to be certain, but why would he only act that way when he’s got a personal stake?

By: Andre

Andre — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:44:24 +0000

Sean wrote:

I’m reminded of the article alleging that Inge is “livid” over the Cabrea-Guillen switch. Makes no sense. He’ll get more time at third with Guillen ahead of him for sure (injuries). Maybe there’s some “reading into” of Inge’s reactions going on. If Inge is still frustrated or even livid, they should keep him that way - has he ever had an April this good? Next time Guillen is out for a while, they should take Inge to the next level by announcing that Dontrelle Willis is moving to 3B.

Can we get Craig Monroe back for Jacque Jones? I’m just sayin’.

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I haven’t laughed this hard in a while, thank you and I couldn’t agree more (whats worse is that Willis can “hit”). I do think that the media exaggerates any possible Inge situation. I remember reading ESPN reports early in the season that seemed to make pretty significant leaps and assumptions based on Inge comments that, when you read what he actually said, seemed more like flat out fiction than anything.

As far as JJones, I think its the Cubs getting back at us for Monroe…which totally isn’t fair, I mean we took N Perez off their hands right?

By: Kathy

Kathy — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:59:58 +0000

OK, Greg, next time out I’ll be watching Bondo’s eye reactions. Just last week I mentioned how Poly had stopped clenching his teeth as much this season. Well, yesterday, he clenched ‘em like crazy and still didn’t get a hit. So much for the jaw clenching theory!

By: Mark in Chicago

Mark in Chicago — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:54:35 +0000

Bonderman was 10-1 with a sub-4.00 ERA at one point last year and foolishly tried to pitch through pain. Verlander has had a rough start but I think it’s too early to say he’s “regressing”. Sabathia had worse numbers than JV to start this year, is he regressing too? I have read that many scouts don’t think pitchers throw enough meaningful innings during spring training, and thus aren’t ready for the season. They spend their time throwing 5 innings to AA-hitters and in simulated games on practice fields. An exception to that this year was Danny Haren, who threw 7 innings his last couple starts in the spring, and he’s off and running to start the season (he’s also hurt, but that’s a different story).

I think our starters will get better as the season progresses, they’ll find their command and tweak the mechanics to fix the minor problems. We’ve been lucky that our bullpen has kept us in it (I really didn’t think I’d be writing those words), let’s give the starters some time to put things together. If we’re still having this conversation in June, I’ll be worried.

By: Sean C. in Illinois

Sean C. in Illinois — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:45:48 +0000

Based on quotes and what little I’ve actually seen of Bonderman, I’d give him the benefit of the doubt. He seems like an emotional, competetive guy who hates to be taken out and hates to see his runners score for all the right reasons.

Can we get Craig Monroe back for Jacque Jones? I’m just sayin’.

By: Kevin in Austin

Kevin in Austin — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:31:42 +0000

tiff - I certainly hope you are right here, but Kenny’s age and Bonderman’s head issues are headed in the wrong direction. If JV can turn out to be the Cy Young candidate we think he is, and the rest of the guys can be average, then we’ve got a shot with this offense. Problem is, I don’t think the rest of the guys are average.