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	<title>Comments on: Game 11:  Tigers at White Sox</title>
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		<title>By: T Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-11-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-80012</link>
		<dc:creator>T Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In defense of the Mayor:

I'm pretty sure I could beat Sean Casey in an arm restle and absolutely sure I could beat him in a straight-on foot race.  Yes, his slugging numbers sucked -- but that number is slightly skewed by the fact that so many of his singles could have been stretched into doubles, and so many of his doubles could have been stretched into triples -- with just a modicum of speed.  I'm not even talking Granderson-like speed, just average speed.  The result:  Good hitter who hits high for average, but whose slugging average sucks.  (It also didn't help that he couldn't put a few more over the fence).

But....  he was a consistant hitter, as I recall, and came thru with the one-bagger alot last year, just like we saw in Boston.   Sometimes when you have a 1-9 lineup chock-full of  bonifide sluggers, it doesn't hurt to throw in a consistant hitter in the lineup who bats high for average to keep a rally alive every now and then.  I would argue it helps the team chemistry.  Sluggers tend to be much more streaky that hitters like Casey -- if the whole lineup is on and slugging, well then, nobody is gonna beat them and you'd take anyone of those hitters over a powerless-bat like Casey, but we also see what happens when the whole lineup is off.   All it would have taken to win 3 or 4 of the games we've already lost this year would have been a few timely singles up the middle -- or a few hits to extend an inning for the next guy.  We don't always need the the long ball from every hitter to get the job done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of the Mayor:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure I could beat Sean Casey in an arm restle and absolutely sure I could beat him in a straight-on foot race.  Yes, his slugging numbers sucked &#8212; but that number is slightly skewed by the fact that so many of his singles could have been stretched into doubles, and so many of his doubles could have been stretched into triples &#8212; with just a modicum of speed.  I&#8217;m not even talking Granderson-like speed, just average speed.  The result:  Good hitter who hits high for average, but whose slugging average sucks.  (It also didn&#8217;t help that he couldn&#8217;t put a few more over the fence).</p>
<p>But&#8230;.  he was a consistant hitter, as I recall, and came thru with the one-bagger alot last year, just like we saw in Boston.   Sometimes when you have a 1-9 lineup chock-full of  bonifide sluggers, it doesn&#8217;t hurt to throw in a consistant hitter in the lineup who bats high for average to keep a rally alive every now and then.  I would argue it helps the team chemistry.  Sluggers tend to be much more streaky that hitters like Casey &#8212; if the whole lineup is on and slugging, well then, nobody is gonna beat them and you&#8217;d take anyone of those hitters over a powerless-bat like Casey, but we also see what happens when the whole lineup is off.   All it would have taken to win 3 or 4 of the games we&#8217;ve already lost this year would have been a few timely singles up the middle &#8212; or a few hits to extend an inning for the next guy.  We don&#8217;t always need the the long ball from every hitter to get the job done.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get rid of Leyland before it's too late to turn the season around. He's unable to inspire this team. They're playing with no heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get rid of Leyland before it&#8217;s too late to turn the season around. He&#8217;s unable to inspire this team. They&#8217;re playing with no heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casey was good, but just not good enough.  Plus, we were paying him millions.  He'll be fine in Boston and everyone will like him just like we did; then he'll probably pull a muscle in his leg or hurt his back again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casey was good, but just not good enough.  Plus, we were paying him millions.  He&#8217;ll be fine in Boston and everyone will like him just like we did; then he&#8217;ll probably pull a muscle in his leg or hurt his back again.</p>
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		<title>By: KS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joey, there's nothing thinly veiled about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joey, there&#8217;s nothing thinly veiled about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here I was thinking during that Thome at bat that if that last pitch had been called ball four, it could have been Grilli's last pitch in the big leagues.  (Because he would have been pulled from the game, released, and not picked up by any other teams.)

But it's clear that Leyland has some irrational affection for the guy and there's probably nothing he can do to get cut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here I was thinking during that Thome at bat that if that last pitch had been called ball four, it could have been Grilli&#8217;s last pitch in the big leagues.  (Because he would have been pulled from the game, released, and not picked up by any other teams.)</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s clear that Leyland has some irrational affection for the guy and there&#8217;s probably nothing he can do to get cut.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080412&#38;content_id=2520967&#38;vkey=news_det&#38;fext=.jsp&#38;c_id=det

WOW 

Grilli gains early confidence
Leyland impressed by reliever's recent outing

"Hopefully that'll get him going," Leyland said, "because he's got too good stuff not to pitch good. Jason Grilli's got good stuff, no question about it. He's got too good stuff to not pitch well, and I'm not talking about every single time out. Nobody pitches great every time out, but he gave us a big lift, and he should've given himself a big lift.

"That should be a big plus for him and a nice little step forward to keep the confidence going a little bit. That's what you're hoping for. It's kind of a wait and see." 


Nobody pitches poorly every time out, that was Grillis one non-poor outing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080412&amp;content_id=2520967&amp;vkey=news_det&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=det" rel="nofollow">http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/.....p;c_id=det</a></p>
<p>WOW </p>
<p>Grilli gains early confidence<br />
Leyland impressed by reliever&#8217;s recent outing</p>
<p>&#8220;Hopefully that&#8217;ll get him going,&#8221; Leyland said, &#8220;because he&#8217;s got too good stuff not to pitch good. Jason Grilli&#8217;s got good stuff, no question about it. He&#8217;s got too good stuff to not pitch well, and I&#8217;m not talking about every single time out. Nobody pitches great every time out, but he gave us a big lift, and he should&#8217;ve given himself a big lift.</p>
<p>&#8220;That should be a big plus for him and a nice little step forward to keep the confidence going a little bit. That&#8217;s what you&#8217;re hoping for. It&#8217;s kind of a wait and see.&#8221; </p>
<p>Nobody pitches poorly every time out, that was Grillis one non-poor outing</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/04/game-11-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-79995</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll tell you one thing, when your team has a collective .240 BA it normally isn't good (not assuming they dont hit for power/take walks)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell you one thing, when your team has a collective .240 BA it normally isn&#8217;t good (not assuming they dont hit for power/take walks)</p>
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		<title>By: Joey C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Almighty nearly useless?"  Are you attempting to write something in English?  

And are you contesting the assertion that Casey wasn't very good, or are you just belittling someone else's comment for kicks.  If it's the former, why don't you include something more illuminating in your post than a thinly veiled suggestion that another person is ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Almighty nearly useless?&#8221;  Are you attempting to write something in English?  </p>
<p>And are you contesting the assertion that Casey wasn&#8217;t very good, or are you just belittling someone else&#8217;s comment for kicks.  If it&#8217;s the former, why don&#8217;t you include something more illuminating in your post than a thinly veiled suggestion that another person is ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: KS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still get a kick out of the fact, that 25 plus years after Bill James made an impression that people still pull out the almighty nearly useless batting average stat when making an argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still get a kick out of the fact, that 25 plus years after Bill James made an impression that people still pull out the almighty nearly useless batting average stat when making an argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Adam, Casey did suck here. He was a lead footed first baseman with no power who hit about .285 with a slugging % of about .385 over 2006 and 2007. Those are fine numbers for a backup catcher, not for a starting AL first baseman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Adam, Casey did suck here. He was a lead footed first baseman with no power who hit about .285 with a slugging % of about .385 over 2006 and 2007. Those are fine numbers for a backup catcher, not for a starting AL first baseman.</p>
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