Comments on: Let the Todd Jones hand wringing begin http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Stephen http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77353 Stephen Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:53:20 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77353 Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the bullpen the weak link on this team last year? And doesn't this bullpen, particularly without Rodney and Zumaya, look even lamer? I mean it's aweome and all that we got Cabrera and Willis, but this bullpen looks like a disaster. Have a nice day! Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the bullpen the weak link on this team last year? And doesn’t this bullpen, particularly without Rodney and Zumaya, look even lamer? I mean it’s aweome and all that we got Cabrera and Willis, but this bullpen looks like a disaster.
Have a nice day!

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77350 Vince in MN Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:14:32 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77350 Speaking of the 'dark old days', anyone for a Shane Halter reminisce? Speaking of the ‘dark old days’, anyone for a Shane Halter reminisce?

]]> By: Andrew http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77342 Andrew Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:51:57 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77342 I love it. The boys aren't even heading up to the frozen tundra of Comerica Park and we already have a Todd Jones "situation" to talk about. This sure beats the dark days when we would speculate on the number of losses for the season before spring training was even done, :) I love it. The boys aren’t even heading up to the frozen tundra of Comerica Park and we already have a Todd Jones “situation” to talk about.

This sure beats the dark days when we would speculate on the number of losses for the season before spring training was even done, :)

]]> By: The Spot Starters http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77334 The Spot Starters Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:09:47 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77334 I don't think we can assume that Jones will throw strikes. Yeah, that has been this thing in the past, he very rarely walked anyone and if he got beat it was the hitters that beat him. However, if he can't get command of his pitches then he's pretty close to finished. I don't think it's a given that he'll regain his command even though he's done so in the past. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hopefully he can turn it around here. I don’t think we can assume that Jones will throw strikes. Yeah, that has been this thing in the past, he very rarely walked anyone and if he got beat it was the hitters that beat him. However, if he can’t get command of his pitches then he’s pretty close to finished.

I don’t think it’s a given that he’ll regain his command even though he’s done so in the past. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and hopefully he can turn it around here.

]]> By: Sam http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77333 Sam Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:39:23 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77333 David, No problem. I agree that our bullpen really struggled at times last year. I do not see the situation getting any better this year. Hopefully Bazardo, Miner, and Bautista can give us some quality innings. I am really not counting on Rodney or Zumaya at this point. -Sam David,

No problem. I agree that our bullpen really struggled at times last year. I do not see the situation getting any better this year. Hopefully Bazardo, Miner, and Bautista can give us some quality innings.

I am really not counting on Rodney or Zumaya at this point.

-Sam

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77322 Vince in MN Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:34:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77322 What velocity? What velocity?

]]> By: rings http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77321 rings Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:00:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77321 Bilfer, you hit the concern I had from these two outings - if he wasn't getting the movement on his cutter or lost some velocity. Jones does his thing, which is throw strikes and bet that he can get three outs before the other team gets their runs. If he's not getting his movement or hitting his spots, that wager becomes more precarious. Bilfer, you hit the concern I had from these two outings – if he wasn’t getting the movement on his cutter or lost some velocity.
Jones does his thing, which is throw strikes and bet that he can get three outs before the other team gets their runs. If he’s not getting his movement or hitting his spots, that wager becomes more precarious.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77319 David Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:42:01 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77319 Sorry it wasn't clear I ment the pen in general you should know you did this http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/the-6th-inning/ I just remember quite a few low scoring clean games blown up, or saves blown by the pen while it was cold. Sorry it wasn’t clear

I ment the pen in general

you should know you did this

http://www.detroittigersweblog.....th-inning/

I just remember quite a few low scoring clean games blown up, or saves blown by the pen while it was cold.

]]> By: Sam http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77317 Sam Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:28:25 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77317 Did I miss somthing last April?? We were 14-11 (not great, but our 11-18 August is what killed us). Jones was 1-1 with 8 saves and a 3.00 era. He did have one blown save against KC and took a loss in CAL in a strange game, but I think I would take that. -Sam Did I miss somthing last April??

We were 14-11 (not great, but our 11-18 August is what killed us).

Jones was 1-1 with 8 saves and a 3.00 era. He did have one blown save against KC and took a loss in CAL in a strange game, but I think I would take that.

-Sam

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77315 David Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:13:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77315 What are the betting odds on him? 6-8 losses? He knows what to do, hes got experience, he just is old and doesn't (as far as major league closers go) have much talent Hypothetical: Jones sucks in April and blows like 3 games in the first 15 days, Frodney is injured who is the speaker of the house/in the hole/ 3rd option for closer? I think it wouldn't be bad to take Thames and trade him for either a younger guy who throws junk, or a guy like Farnsworth who has at least one dominant pitch, is middle aged (in baseball years) and has had some downs so the trade would go through. The last thing we want is a repeat of last APRIL COLD - little offense, good/great SP, pen blows quite a few games What are the betting odds on him? 6-8 losses?

He knows what to do, hes got experience, he just is old and doesn’t (as far as major league closers go) have much talent

Hypothetical:

Jones sucks in April and blows like 3 games in the first 15 days,

Frodney is injured

who is the speaker of the house/in the hole/ 3rd option for closer?

I think it wouldn’t be bad to take Thames and trade him for either a younger guy who throws junk, or a guy like Farnsworth who has at least one dominant pitch, is middle aged (in baseball years) and has had some downs so the trade would go through.

The last thing we want is a repeat of last APRIL

COLD – little offense, good/great SP, pen blows quite a few games

]]> By: Jim http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77314 Jim Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:11:23 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77314 Maybe he does it on purpose to upset everyone back home? Maybe he does it on purpose to upset everyone back home?

]]> By: Sam http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77313 Sam Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:58:12 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77313 Not worried at all. It's only spring training and he is what he is. - He will throw strikes. - If his command is off at all he will get pounded. - He has no memory. - He is fearless. My biggest worry is getting to him. -Sam Not worried at all. It’s only spring training and he is what he is.

- He will throw strikes.
- If his command is off at all he will get pounded.
- He has no memory.
- He is fearless.

My biggest worry is getting to him.

-Sam

]]> By: spot starters http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77312 spot starters Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:54:24 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/let-the-todd-jones-hand-wringing-begin/#comment-77312 Boy, I hope you're right. I just keep thinking that he may finally be out of gas. He's old and has never had the best "stuff". It could be that he's just done. I'll hold off on thinking so negatively until the season has at least started. Boy, I hope you’re right. I just keep thinking that he may finally be out of gas. He’s old and has never had the best “stuff”. It could be that he’s just done. I’ll hold off on thinking so negatively until the season has at least started.

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