Comments on: DTW Orientation http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:13:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Keith in IA http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77980 Keith in IA Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:46:40 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77980 I'll be watching (mostly reading) from Des Moines for most of the season, and I expect 23 wins from Verlander, 18 from Bonderman, and 16 from Nate. Twelve each from Kenny and Dontrelle puts us in the playoffs. Bautista gets 13 saves and we win the pennant. I’ll be watching (mostly reading) from Des Moines for most of the season, and I expect 23 wins from Verlander, 18 from Bonderman, and 16 from Nate. Twelve each from Kenny and Dontrelle puts us in the playoffs. Bautista gets 13 saves and we win the pennant.

]]> By: cib http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77978 cib Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:32:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77978 Hey Billfer I am so excited for tomorrow I won't be able to sleep!! I'll be at all four day games this week - but I am also looking forward to being back on DTW and especially posting during away games, and hopefully another blogger night at Comerica Park! cindi Hey Billfer I am so excited for tomorrow I won’t be able to sleep!! I’ll be at all four day games this week - but I am also looking forward to being back on DTW and especially posting during away games, and hopefully another blogger night at Comerica Park! cindi

]]> By: rings http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77975 rings Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:22:07 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77975 David, nice call on the Royals...I also think they're due for an uptick. Many of the "experts" however, seem to think the Pale Hose have righted the ship, and I respectfully disagree with them. I think they're going to be awful this year, despite Kenny W's moves to solidify holes. I'm torn on the Twins...they should finally take their long awaited plunge into the cellar, but they always seem to win more than they should. Predicted finish: 1. Tabbies (Man, I miss "Iffy, the Dopester!") 2. Tribe 3. Twins 4. Royalty 5. Pale Hose David, nice call on the Royals…I also think they’re due for an uptick. Many of the “experts” however, seem to think the Pale Hose have righted the ship, and I respectfully disagree with them. I think they’re going to be awful this year, despite Kenny W’s moves to solidify holes. I’m torn on the Twins…they should finally take their long awaited plunge into the cellar, but they always seem to win more than they should.
Predicted finish:
1. Tabbies (Man, I miss “Iffy, the Dopester!”)
2. Tribe
3. Twins
4. Royalty
5. Pale Hose

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77974 David Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:42:27 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77974 LOL Well I agree with your post EZ - the Jays and Rays should be fantastic, well maybe not, but a lot better than the professors on TV are predicting. I also think you could include the Royals in that group. With the Jays they had the second best RA last year in the AL - without BJ Ryan and AJ Burnett for most if not all of the year, they had a serious down year from Vernon Wells, and Rios didn't "bust out" like he was predicted to The Rays of course had that semi-huge deal with Minny that went largely unnoticed because it was squished between ours and the Santana trade. They have at least 1 ace, with two other possible, with solid D, and a speedy lineup The Royals I think though could easily bust into third (this year) in our division and here's why: 4 major differences in their Offense Gordon - had a very hard time his first two months, eased into things, should be much better Teahen - I agree with what was said in Moneyball - he has the ability to become the next Jason Giambi Guillen - even with all of his problems he can mash Butler - the best of the group, I'm thinking Travis Hafner/David Ortiz hybrid Plus Meche, Bannister and Grienke shouldnt be too bad. As far as the AL Central (Bill and Ez I don't think you're giving us enough credit) I'm thinking we win 100-105 games, if everything were to go right" and we had a similar 2006 pitching and similar hitting to last year + our additions I think we could win 115 games, if everything goes wrong (which for the pitching starters and pen it almost did last year) I'm saying 90 wins. Cleveland had a better year last year than they will this year Twins really downgraded their pitching(Santana and Garza) and lost Hunter (yes they have Mauer and DYoung, big whoop) The White Sox made it seems like quite a few moves to get even worse, they traded away one of their rocks in their starting staff(Garland), and the other big thing is having JJJJJJosh Fields start in AAA because they dont have room for him in their lineup. They traded for a guy in the OC who although is slick and a decent hitter just had a career year, and Swisher is a guy who most of you would take his offense (100ish walks, decent power, .250ish BA) from Inge, I knew Jermaine Dye was a fluke The one guy they did add from Cuba looks to be really good is Alexi Ramirez Now some people might think I'm crazy, but I really think that I can assume that at least 2/4 of our starting staff after Verlander will live up to their potential and/or be durable. IF we can shut the other team down 60-70% of the time and have slugfests the rest of the time IMO that = a lot of wins, plus the fact that every team in our division except the Royals should perform worse Anyways thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it! LOL

Well I agree with your post EZ - the Jays and Rays should be fantastic, well maybe not, but a lot better than the professors on TV are predicting.

I also think you could include the Royals in that group.

With the Jays they had the second best RA last year in the AL - without BJ Ryan and AJ Burnett for most if not all of the year, they had a serious down year from Vernon Wells, and Rios didn’t “bust out” like he was predicted to

The Rays of course had that semi-huge deal with Minny that went largely unnoticed because it was squished between ours and the Santana trade.

They have at least 1 ace, with two other possible, with solid D, and a speedy lineup

The Royals I think though could easily bust into third (this year) in our division and here’s why:

4 major differences in their Offense
Gordon - had a very hard time his first two months, eased into things, should be much better
Teahen - I agree with what was said in Moneyball - he has the ability to become the next Jason Giambi
Guillen - even with all of his problems he can mash
Butler - the best of the group, I’m thinking Travis Hafner/David Ortiz hybrid

Plus Meche, Bannister and Grienke shouldnt be too bad.

As far as the AL Central (Bill and Ez I don’t think you’re giving us enough credit)

I’m thinking we win 100-105 games, if everything were to go right” and we had a similar 2006 pitching and similar hitting to last year + our additions I think we could win 115 games, if everything goes wrong (which for the pitching starters and pen it almost did last year) I’m saying 90 wins.

Cleveland had a better year last year than they will this year
Twins really downgraded their pitching(Santana and Garza) and lost Hunter (yes they have Mauer and DYoung, big whoop)
The White Sox made it seems like quite a few moves to get even worse, they traded away one of their rocks in their starting staff(Garland), and the other big thing is having JJJJJJosh Fields start in AAA because they dont have room for him in their lineup. They traded for a guy in the OC who although is slick and a decent hitter just had a career year, and Swisher is a guy who most of you would take his offense (100ish walks, decent power, .250ish BA) from Inge, I knew Jermaine Dye was a fluke

The one guy they did add from Cuba looks to be really good is Alexi Ramirez

Now some people might think I’m crazy, but I really think that I can assume that at least 2/4 of our starting staff after Verlander will live up to their potential and/or be durable.

IF we can shut the other team down 60-70% of the time and have slugfests the rest of the time IMO that = a lot of wins, plus the fact that every team in our division except the Royals should perform worse

Anyways thats my opinion and I’m sticking to it!

]]> By: EZ http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77973 EZ Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:29:04 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77973 Wow, I didn't realize you could spell stupid with just an "E" and a "Z", and here I managed it flawlessly. I thought I had already read that last night, so I went flying by it... As Gilda Radner used to say "Nevermind" Go Rays and Jays. Wow, I didn’t realize you could spell stupid with just an “E” and a “Z”, and here I managed it flawlessly.

I thought I had already read that last night, so I went flying by it… As Gilda Radner used to say “Nevermind”

Go Rays and Jays.

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77972 billfer Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:34:21 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77972 You're killing me EZ :) Check the post before this one! You’re killing me EZ :)

Check the post before this one!

]]> By: EZ http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77971 EZ Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:21:07 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/03/dtw-orientation/#comment-77971 Bilfer, You probably have made your predictions already and posted them, however I can't recall them right now... I would be curious to see what what revisions, if any, you have made one day before Opening... The week before spring training I called the Tigers to win the Central with 94 wins. I also thought that Detroit had to win the Central because I was convinced the wild card was going to come from the East... I have since changed my stance a bit... I am calling for 92 wins (I arrived at this from a bullpen that is more scary now than it was in February, and let me thank Homeland Security again for the bang up job they did on Cruceta's visa...). I also spent much time looking at the Jays and Rays... Both of those teams are poised to give the Yankees fits. I now think the WC comes from the Central, with Cleveland wining 90 games. Most any Tiger fan should be rooting hard for the Rays and Jays, it gives us a better chance at a playoff birth.... In the playoffs anything can happen, like beating a good Yankees team and getting pounded by a meadiocre St. Louis team... I worry about our pitching in any playoff situation. However, if the Tigs take the Central I will consider the season a large sucess. Last year I predicted the Tigers to win 87, so I missed by one game... What are your thoughts and predictions a day before the Happiest Season Of Them All starts? Bilfer,

You probably have made your predictions already and posted them, however I can’t recall them right now… I would be curious to see what what revisions, if any, you have made one day before Opening…

The week before spring training I called the Tigers to win the Central with 94 wins. I also thought that Detroit had to win the Central because I was convinced the wild card was going to come from the East…

I have since changed my stance a bit… I am calling for 92 wins (I arrived at this from a bullpen that is more scary now than it was in February, and let me thank Homeland Security again for the bang up job they did on Cruceta’s visa…). I also spent much time looking at the Jays and Rays… Both of those teams are poised to give the Yankees fits. I now think the WC comes from the Central, with Cleveland wining 90 games. Most any Tiger fan should be rooting hard for the Rays and Jays, it gives us a better chance at a playoff birth….

In the playoffs anything can happen, like beating a good Yankees team and getting pounded by a meadiocre St. Louis team… I worry about our pitching in any playoff situation. However, if the Tigs take the Central I will consider the season a large sucess.

Last year I predicted the Tigers to win 87, so I missed by one game…

What are your thoughts and predictions a day before the Happiest Season Of Them All starts?

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