Comments on: The 6 runs per game lineup http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/the-6-runs-per-game-lineup/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:03:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/the-6-runs-per-game-lineup/#comment-74703 David Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:00:29 +0000 #comment-74703 Well said Eric! Well said Eric!

]]> By: BobS. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/the-6-runs-per-game-lineup/#comment-74693 BobS. Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:09:09 +0000 #comment-74693 No ones talking about giving Cabrera our firstborne (although I think we should all be a little open minded about our wives,girlfriends,or daughters),and I'm fine with him playing LF(or even RF,with the arm he shows at 3B),if he's capable and IF he wants to.My point is that he's a lot more important to this organization than Inge and it would be a shame to repeat the mistake that the Yankees made with Alex Rodriguez. No ones talking about giving Cabrera our firstborne (although I think we should all be a little open minded about our wives,girlfriends,or daughters),and I’m fine with him playing LF(or even RF,with the arm he shows at 3B),if he’s capable and IF he wants to.My point is that he’s a lot more important to this organization than Inge and it would be a shame to repeat the mistake that the Yankees made with Alex Rodriguez.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/the-6-runs-per-game-lineup/#comment-74690 ron Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:40:42 +0000 #comment-74690 Can't we keep Inge, please. Can’t we keep Inge, please.

]]> By: Eric Cioe http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/the-6-runs-per-game-lineup/#comment-74676 Eric Cioe Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:18:12 +0000 #comment-74676 Cabrera doesn't say he's more comfortable at third. Sounds like he's just excited to be with us. Before we go around giving him our first borns and such, why don't we see if can play an effective left field? When you consider both batting and defense, I think that an Inge/Cabrera pairing is better than a Jones/Cabrera. Cabrera doesn’t say he’s more comfortable at third. Sounds like he’s just excited to be with us. Before we go around giving him our first borns and such, why don’t we see if can play an effective left field? When you consider both batting and defense, I think that an Inge/Cabrera pairing is better than a Jones/Cabrera.

]]> By: BobS. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/the-6-runs-per-game-lineup/#comment-74666 BobS. Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:33:57 +0000 #comment-74666 I've got no problems keeping Inge around in his proper role as a utility player,but if Cabrera is comfortable at third,he should play third. Seeing as how Inge's numbers make him essentially an x-ray of Granderson,how about getting his bat in the lineup by trying him out in CF against LHP?His range and his arm(both of which allow him to make some of the highlight reel plays that have convinced some of his defensive greatness) might make him one of the best defensive centerfielders ever to platoon with one of the other best defensive centerfielders ever. I’ve got no problems keeping Inge around in his proper role as a utility player,but if Cabrera is comfortable at third,he should play third.
Seeing as how Inge’s numbers make him essentially an x-ray of Granderson,how about getting his bat in the lineup by trying him out in CF against LHP?His range and his arm(both of which allow him to make some of the highlight reel plays that have convinced some of his defensive greatness) might make him one of the best defensive centerfielders ever to platoon with one of the other best defensive centerfielders ever.

]]> By: greg http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/the-6-runs-per-game-lineup/#comment-74655 greg Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:03:34 +0000 #comment-74655 Inge vs. Lefties in 2007 - .333/.419./.505 Add in his defense and I think he's an asset vs. lefties at 3B On a different note... Didn't Thames make less than 500k this year? That seems dirt cheap for his production. As part of a platoon in LF with Jones he'd work out well. But I hear they're trying to trade him. It must be because he'd get a huge raise with arbitration this year? Is he eligible for that yet? Will be interesting to see how the Tigs will play this hand out with these options. Inge vs. Lefties in 2007 - .333/.419./.505

Add in his defense and I think he’s an asset vs. lefties at 3B

On a different note…

Didn’t Thames make less than 500k this year? That seems dirt cheap for his production. As part of a platoon in LF with Jones he’d work out well. But I hear they’re trying to trade him. It must be because he’d get a huge raise with arbitration this year? Is he eligible for that yet?

Will be interesting to see how the Tigs will play this hand out with these options.

]]> By: punisher2006 the indians fan http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/the-6-runs-per-game-lineup/#comment-74652 punisher2006 the indians fan Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:28:39 +0000 #comment-74652 I'm scared...this team is one capable of scoring 950, even 1000 runs...the last time that happened was the 1999 Indians, who scored 1009 runs but who couldn't pitch worth jack. The Tigers could win upwards of 100 games if the team stays healthy...I'm worried about my team for this season. If Travis Hafner and Grady Sizemore don't have bounceback years, if Garko and Gutierrez don't have a breakout season and if Sabathia and Carmona don't pitch like they did this past season, we could be in trouble. At this point the Tigers' biggest weakness is the bullpen; not enough depth, and the relievers they do have appear to be wild cards. I’m scared…this team is one capable of scoring 950, even 1000 runs…the last time that happened was the 1999 Indians, who scored 1009 runs but who couldn’t pitch worth jack.

The Tigers could win upwards of 100 games if the team stays healthy…I’m worried about my team for this season. If Travis Hafner and Grady Sizemore don’t have bounceback years, if Garko and Gutierrez don’t have a breakout season and if Sabathia and Carmona don’t pitch like they did this past season, we could be in trouble.

At this point the Tigers’ biggest weakness is the bullpen; not enough depth, and the relievers they do have appear to be wild cards.

]]> By: Rings http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/the-6-runs-per-game-lineup/#comment-74647 Rings Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:10:56 +0000 #comment-74647 David...we obviously disagree. But you have grossly overestimated the value of a defensive third baseman - who also leads his league in errors annually - if you're favoring Brandon Inge over Miggy Cabrera at third. It's not even close and you sound ridiculous with your insistence on trying to keep him in the lineup. A "great" defensive third sacker, no matter how good, is just not as valuable as CF, SS, 2B or C. And Inge's career-long record of offensive futility is a HUGE factor in this debate. Why would you "afford" a lousy guy in the lineup if you don't have to? As an expensive utility guy, he's fine, but as stated above, no more than 200-250 AB's. As for this "greatest defensive thirdbaseman" nonsense. Please. No Gold Gloves, no season with less than 20 E's or leading his league in E's, numerous brain farts...it's getting to be a joke with the worship of a guy who is very lucky to still be in the league, had he not broke in with a horrible Detroit squad his first couple seasons. With nearly any other team, he'd be home selling insurance by now. David…we obviously disagree.
But you have grossly overestimated the value of a defensive third baseman - who also leads his league in errors annually - if you’re favoring Brandon Inge over Miggy Cabrera at third.
It’s not even close and you sound ridiculous with your insistence on trying to keep him in the lineup. A “great” defensive third sacker, no matter how good, is just not as valuable as CF, SS, 2B or C. And Inge’s career-long record of offensive futility is a HUGE factor in this debate.
Why would you “afford” a lousy guy in the lineup if you don’t have to?
As an expensive utility guy, he’s fine, but as stated above, no more than 200-250 AB’s.
As for this “greatest defensive thirdbaseman” nonsense. Please. No Gold Gloves, no season with less than 20 E’s or leading his league in E’s, numerous brain farts…it’s getting to be a joke with the worship of a guy who is very lucky to still be in the league, had he not broke in with a horrible Detroit squad his first couple seasons. With nearly any other team, he’d be home selling insurance by now.

]]> By: Joel http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/the-6-runs-per-game-lineup/#comment-74640 Joel Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:39:49 +0000 #comment-74640 David: Holy crap - I had no idea my game was so valuable. Too bad I still like playing it. I have a copy of the '04 game - I'll give it to you for shipping cost, if you want it... David:

Holy crap - I had no idea my game was so valuable. Too bad I still like playing it.

I have a copy of the ‘04 game - I’ll give it to you for shipping cost, if you want it…

]]> By: Walt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/the-6-runs-per-game-lineup/#comment-74636 Walt Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:08:22 +0000 #comment-74636 I really like Inge at third. It is a shame that he has to bat though. We need a new designated fielder rule. Another thought, if the outfield is easier on one's body, how about Cabrera at 1st and Guilen in LF? ;) In all seriousness, Miguel should play anywhere he wants. He should be very happy here and want to re sign long term with detroit. That has to be more valuable long term than the defensive gain that Inge brings. This could also depend greatly on what the market for Inge turns out to be. If we can find a team to give up a serviceable reliever and take on all of Brandon's salary, I think he is gone. I really don't think that 6M is that expensive for a starting 3B. I really like Inge at third. It is a shame that he has to bat though. We need a new designated fielder rule.

Another thought, if the outfield is easier on one’s body, how about Cabrera at 1st and Guilen in LF? ;)

In all seriousness, Miguel should play anywhere he wants. He should be very happy here and want to re sign long term with detroit. That has to be more valuable long term than the defensive gain that Inge brings. This could also depend greatly on what the market for Inge turns out to be. If we can find a team to give up a serviceable reliever and take on all of Brandon’s salary, I think he is gone. I really don’t think that 6M is that expensive for a starting 3B.

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