Comments on: links for 2007-12-12 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75042 Kathy Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:24:24 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75042 I guess his prescription coverage doesn't cover HGH. I guess his prescription coverage doesn’t cover HGH.

]]> By: Dave http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75040 Dave Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:19:59 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75040 Paul Byrd claims to have had a pituitary gland condition, which required the use of HGH. Somehow that explains why he obtained the prescription from his dentist. I don't know about you, but whenever I have a tumor in my brain I go straight to the dentist. Paul Byrd claims to have had a pituitary gland condition, which required the use of HGH. Somehow that explains why he obtained the prescription from his dentist. I don’t know about you, but whenever I have a tumor in my brain I go straight to the dentist.

]]> By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75039 Kathy Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:19:22 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75039 At least none of our guys turned up with a signed check to one of these clinics. They didn't mention Paul Byrd who purchased over 25,000 worth of the stuff. Oh, that's right he had prescriptions. Evidently, Pudge and Sheff did not test positive when the drug tests were given. And thank God Miggy and DTrain weren't mentioned. At least none of our guys turned up with a signed check to one of these clinics. They didn’t mention Paul Byrd who purchased over 25,000 worth of the stuff. Oh, that’s right he had prescriptions. Evidently, Pudge and Sheff did not test positive when the drug tests were given. And thank God Miggy and DTrain weren’t mentioned.

]]> By: Steve in Kzoo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75037 Steve in Kzoo Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:44:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75037 Dave, Dont get me wrong I'm not saying that this is 100% proven and correctly written report. I'm just saying that these guys that were respected so much especially as people and their personalities will be ruined or tarnished. I still think this is still to circumstancial(sp?) to be correct with nothing wrong with it. They should have had more distributors ringed up and brought in not to mention former and current trainers that should be at the very least questioned but the MLBPA didn't want their players to comment and Mitchell was not given the power to subpena which should have been given if we really want to stop these drugs from tarnishing our great past time! Dave,

Dont get me wrong I’m not saying that this is 100% proven and correctly written report. I’m just saying that these guys that were respected so much especially as people and their personalities will be ruined or tarnished. I still think this is still to circumstancial(sp?) to be correct with nothing wrong with it. They should have had more distributors ringed up and brought in not to mention former and current trainers that should be at the very least questioned but the MLBPA didn’t want their players to comment and Mitchell was not given the power to subpena which should have been given if we really want to stop these drugs from tarnishing our great past time!

]]> By: Dave http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75036 Dave Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:50:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75036 $40 million spent! How?!? $40 million spent! How?!?

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75034 Mike R Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:28:11 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75034 <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153646" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is a better list, per ESPN. Honestly, this entire report is a joke save for the Pettitte/Clemens stuff. It's mostly hearsay and reads like a bunch of gossip. Can't believe that we've anticipated this for a long time and that MLB spent millions to have someone quote Larry Bigbie on a conversation he had 4 years ago about Brian Roberts and have that the be only thing linking Roberts to steroids. Oh wait, he lived in a house with David Segui, what am I thinking!? He must've roided! Garbage. Here is a better list, per ESPN.

Honestly, this entire report is a joke save for the Pettitte/Clemens stuff. It’s mostly hearsay and reads like a bunch of gossip. Can’t believe that we’ve anticipated this for a long time and that MLB spent millions to have someone quote Larry Bigbie on a conversation he had 4 years ago about Brian Roberts and have that the be only thing linking Roberts to steroids. Oh wait, he lived in a house with David Segui, what am I thinking!? He must’ve roided!

Garbage.

]]> By: Dave http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75033 Dave Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:09:36 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75033 Please keep in mind that the "evidence" in this report is almost entirely second or even third hand. I'm not sure any of these accusations could be proven, and it is thus fundamentally unfair to take them as fact. Don't be so quick to write those guys off, Steve. Please keep in mind that the “evidence” in this report is almost entirely second or even third hand. I’m not sure any of these accusations could be proven, and it is thus fundamentally unfair to take them as fact. Don’t be so quick to write those guys off, Steve.

]]> By: Steve in Kzoo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75032 Steve in Kzoo Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:58:59 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75032 Dont forget that Fernando Vina is also on this list. Im kinda disappointed I liked the guy and he was a stellar infielder both defensively and offensively, but without the roids one has to wonder if Vina would have been that good....... sad day in baseball overall......so many good names now ruined, White, Vina, Pettitte, Justice, Stanton etc...... Dont forget that Fernando Vina is also on this list. Im kinda disappointed I liked the guy and he was a stellar infielder both defensively and offensively, but without the roids one has to wonder if Vina would have been that good……. sad day in baseball overall……so many good names now ruined, White, Vina, Pettitte, Justice, Stanton etc……

]]> By: Dave http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75031 Dave Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:48:08 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75031 I just went through the report using the "find" function and the only current Tiger mentioned at all is Sheffield. There is some pretty extensive discussion of Rondell White, however (he also apparently converted Nook Logan to the dark side, thus dispelling any notion that steroids makes one a better hitter). Poor Rondell, his stellar reputation will be ruined! I just went through the report using the “find” function and the only current Tiger mentioned at all is Sheffield. There is some pretty extensive discussion of Rondell White, however (he also apparently converted Nook Logan to the dark side, thus dispelling any notion that steroids makes one a better hitter). Poor Rondell, his stellar reputation will be ruined!

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75030 Mike R Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:48:07 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75030 <a href="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=MLB%27&columnid=127&article=29671" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is a list of those listed in the Mitchell Report. Here is a list of those listed in the Mitchell Report.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75029 Kurt Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:14:02 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75029 Greg, you may have received what is referred to in this Baseball Prospectus post: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=700 Looks like the Tigers sorta dodged one, I didn't see any names in any articles... yet anyway. Greg, you may have received what is referred to in this Baseball Prospectus post:

http://www.baseballprospectus......red/?p=700

Looks like the Tigers sorta dodged one, I didn’t see any names in any articles… yet anyway.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75028 ron Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:41:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75028 Hopefully, the future hall of famers on the list are never voted in. Hopefully, the future hall of famers on the list are never voted in.

]]> By: greg http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75027 greg Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:11:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75027 Unofficial list of all names on the report I received had both Pudge and Sheffield on it. No surprise really since we all knew Sheff was mentioned in Game of Shadows and Pudge was mentioned in Canseco's book. Remains to be seen what, if anything, will come of it. Unofficial list of all names on the report I received had both Pudge and Sheffield on it.

No surprise really since we all knew Sheff was mentioned in Game of Shadows and Pudge was mentioned in Canseco’s book.

Remains to be seen what, if anything, will come of it.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75023 ron Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:24:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75023 Pettite and Clemens so far. Big surprise. Some people will do anything for fame and fortune. And we as fans keep buying into it. We're as addicted as they are to the fame and fortune, living vicariously through them. Pettite and Clemens so far. Big surprise. Some people will do anything for fame and fortune. And we as fans keep buying into it. We’re as addicted as they are to the fame and fortune, living vicariously through them.

]]> By: Dave http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75020 Dave Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:55:16 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/12/links-for-2007-12-12/#comment-75020 The motives of the report are extremely suspect. Considering that thousands of people have played in MLB since the 1980's, revealing 60-80 names tells us absolutely nothing about the prevalence of drugs in the sport. It does, however, allow for the destruction of the reputations of individuals that have no real ability to defend themselves. And we should sign Mark Prior. We don't really have a spot for him, but man, are his mechanics pretty. The motives of the report are extremely suspect. Considering that thousands of people have played in MLB since the 1980′s, revealing 60-80 names tells us absolutely nothing about the prevalence of drugs in the sport. It does, however, allow for the destruction of the reputations of individuals that have no real ability to defend themselves.

And we should sign Mark Prior. We don’t really have a spot for him, but man, are his mechanics pretty.

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