Neifi what a waste of space

BTW

OUCH

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Could have been our in-house option

Hopefully Shef stays healthy all year and if he doesn’t Leyland doesn’t let him hit (or lackthereof)

I’ve got to say I wonder if how Larish is going to crack this lineup this year or next…

He’d be a really good LH power hitter.

I don’t want to seem like a Joyce fanboy, but I don’t get the “older than his competition argument” for his 2007 numbers. The average age in AA was about 25 last year and if you scroll through the league leaders at firstinning.com, there are really only a handful of players who were younger.

I understand the Ks are alarming, but a 2.5:1 K:BB ratio is something you can work with if not ideal. I don’t think anybody is saying he’s filling the gap Maybin left, but to imply he’s an afterthought in a barren system doesn’t add up.

He’s ‘old’ for the level in prospect terms. How many of those other mid 20′s kids in Double-A have any real shot at the majors? While his K:BB numbers are still okay at 2.5:1, it’s kind of alarming that a regression came at such a crucial stage in identifying the winners from the losers, so to speak, in the prospect world.

I have no problem with him being on the back end of the list, and we’re just splitting hairs, but I just don’t see a whole ton to get excited about unless he can show that it was just an extremely tough adjustment period (granted he did hit poorly in April and May and those deflate his numbers). I’m not saying he’s supposed to fill the gap with Maybin’d departure, and I think even having Brent Clevlen listed when discussing Tigers prospects — no matter how barren the system is now — is a joke. So him being above Joyce is bothersome but I don’t hold a ton of qualms about Joyce not being on the top 20 just like I wouldn’t have many if he were in the 15-20 range, since we’re a bottom 3rd farm system now.

I understand the Ks are alarming, but a 2.5:1 K:BB ratio is something you can work with if not ideal. I don’t think anybody is saying he’s filling the gap Maybin left, but to imply he’s an afterthought in a barren system doesn’t add up.

Who cares? The guy made a great play and it was part of a no hitter. Every no hitter has great defensive plays. One play doesn’t make a career. They’re not going to tell Renteria he can’t have #8 because Neifi did something good for his team for the first time in his career. The guy is a poor excuse for a ball player and never should have been on the field in the first place.

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Who cares about a great play to save a no hitter? OK. You may not care. But close to 40,000 at Comerica that night cared. Let me go out on a limb to say that not everyone shares your sentiment that nobody cares about Justin’s nohitter…..call me crazy.

Career? What? Read my post again. I said nothing about telling Renteria to take a different number. The other 2 posters were obviously joking.

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The guy is a poor excuse for a ball player and never should have been on the field in the first place.

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Such intense hatred for Perez. Did he slug your kid at the fanfest or something? I just mentioned he made a great play on a very special night(well, at least I thought it was special), guess I should have ducked.

He (Joyce) turned 23 at the end of the season this year. I wouldn’t call that old for AA. Not only that, he maintained or improved his rate stats (other than Ks) while jumping from Lo A to AA. Finally, he’s reputed to be fantastic in the outfield.

Walbeck said the reason he could keep Joyce in there when he was struggling so bad early on was because his defense was so good. I put more faith in that assessment than BA’s giving him the league’s best defensive outfielder award.

That’s promising power and plus defense. Sounds like a useful player to me, and a solid top twenty prospect in this system. Certainly not to be confused as interchangeable with Clevlen or Rhymes.

While he’s not overly old, he has been older then his competition and his K numbers took a huge nosedive. It’s great that he can slug, but a .330′s OBP and bad K:BB ratios negate that. I want to see if this was a one year thing or if Double-A — largely regarded as where they separate pretenders from real prospects — exposed his swing.

Anyway, I assumed that – in order to have the length of career that he has – Neifi was at one point an above average player, but a quick look at baseball-reference shows that he has always been mediocre to awful. His marquee season was an ops+ of 86 in the hilariously awesome 1997 incarnation of Coors Field.

kids playing little league ball dream about being a-rod’s and sizemore’s and polanco’s but how many guys in the minors would kill to have a career like the infamous neifi? i’m betting lots.