Comments on: Tigers sign Kenny Rogers and Francisco Cruceta http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:06:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74330 Mike R Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:14:35 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74330 Everybody is making money that is in line with the growth of the sport that has doubled it's revenue since 2003. Everybody is making money that is in line with the growth of the sport that has doubled it’s revenue since 2003.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74329 ron Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:51:58 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74329 All fine and good. Everybody is making money head over heals. He is a valuable commodity to the Steinbrenner family and associates. Ask the guy who has been a Yankee fan all his life what he thinks of A Rod. Anyway, he's got ten years. We'll see. All fine and good. Everybody is making money head over heals. He is a valuable commodity to the Steinbrenner family and associates. Ask the guy who has been a Yankee fan all his life what he thinks of A Rod. Anyway, he’s got ten years. We’ll see.

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74327 Mike R Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:55:27 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74327 Also, <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ys-gennaroarod112707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns" rel="nofollow">here</a> is a very good article on A-Rod's contract and value to the team. Also, here is a very good article on A-Rod’s contract and value to the team.

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74326 Mike R Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:51:57 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74326 <blockquote>The guy hasn’t won anything. He’s bad karma. The Yankees will not win a World Series with A-Rod. The city is not interested in winning 110 games a year or having A Rod hit 900 home runs unless it comes with a championship. The stadium is filled nitely with monied fans and tourists. The real fans sit out in the boroughs because they cannot afford to go to a game because of the Steinbrenners and A Rods. So far he hasn’t shown he can lead this team to the promised land. The fans will always point their finger at him because he’s the main star in a bad play. Your sitting their waiting for the climax and it never develops. Bad Karma, no chemistry, player jealousies, whatever.The Yankees will not win with this guy. If your interested in stats, he’s the king. Go for it.</blockquote> Isn't the real bad karma the fact that the Yankees pitching staff has been bad the last, oh, 6 years? And that's what wins in the postseason. I just have a hard time pinning the failures of the Yankees on A-Rod. What about 01-03, before he was there? Is he responsible for those failures? Or for Mark Bellhorn hitting 2 HR's (i think) in the blown 3-0 series lead to the Red Sox? Or for David Ortiz and his walk off hits that year? Or for Curt Schillings once-in-a-lifetime performance? Or for the fact that Brian Cashman and the Yankees toiled for a few years and are JUST NOW being smart about adding pitching depth and now Joe Torre isn't around to abuse his relief pitchers game in, game out?

The guy hasn’t won anything. He’s bad karma. The Yankees will not win a World Series with A-Rod. The city is not interested in winning 110 games a year or having A Rod hit 900 home runs unless it comes with a championship. The stadium is filled nitely with monied fans and tourists. The real fans sit out in the boroughs because they cannot afford to go to a game because of the Steinbrenners and A Rods. So far he hasn’t shown he can lead this team to the promised land. The fans will always point their finger at him because he’s the main star in a bad play. Your sitting their waiting for the climax and it never develops. Bad Karma, no chemistry, player jealousies, whatever.The Yankees will not win with this guy. If your interested in stats, he’s the king. Go for it.

Isn’t the real bad karma the fact that the Yankees pitching staff has been bad the last, oh, 6 years? And that’s what wins in the postseason.

I just have a hard time pinning the failures of the Yankees on A-Rod. What about 01-03, before he was there? Is he responsible for those failures? Or for Mark Bellhorn hitting 2 HR’s (i think) in the blown 3-0 series lead to the Red Sox? Or for David Ortiz and his walk off hits that year? Or for Curt Schillings once-in-a-lifetime performance? Or for the fact that Brian Cashman and the Yankees toiled for a few years and are JUST NOW being smart about adding pitching depth and now Joe Torre isn’t around to abuse his relief pitchers game in, game out?

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74320 ron Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:14:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74320 Kathy, if Santana goes to N.Y., they will probably have committed a half a Bbbillion dollars in future salaries. Couldn't happen to a better team. Kathy, if Santana goes to N.Y., they will probably have committed a half a Bbbillion dollars in future salaries. Couldn’t happen to a better team.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74319 ron Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:59:05 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74319 The guy hasn't won anything. He's bad karma. The Yankees will not win a World Series with A-Rod. The city is not interested in winning 110 games a year or having A Rod hit 900 home runs unless it comes with a championship. The stadium is filled nitely with monied fans and tourists. The real fans sit out in the boroughs because they cannot afford to go to a game because of the Steinbrenners and A Rods. So far he hasn't shown he can lead this team to the promised land. The fans will always point their finger at him because he's the main star in a bad play. Your sitting their waiting for the climax and it never develops. Bad Karma, no chemistry, player jealousies, whatever.The Yankees will not win with this guy. If your interested in stats, he's the king. Go for it. The guy hasn’t won anything. He’s bad karma. The Yankees will not win a World Series with A-Rod. The city is not interested in winning 110 games a year or having A Rod hit 900 home runs unless it comes with a championship. The stadium is filled nitely with monied fans and tourists. The real fans sit out in the boroughs because they cannot afford to go to a game because of the Steinbrenners and A Rods. So far he hasn’t shown he can lead this team to the promised land. The fans will always point their finger at him because he’s the main star in a bad play. Your sitting their waiting for the climax and it never develops. Bad Karma, no chemistry, player jealousies, whatever.The Yankees will not win with this guy. If your interested in stats, he’s the king. Go for it.

]]> By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74317 Kathy Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:36:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74317 Wanna make bets? I think he'll go to NY. Wanna make bets? I think he’ll go to NY.

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74311 Mike R Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:49:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74311 Resigning the best player of this generation is putting the nail in the coffin of the Yankees? I don't follow that logic, ron. Resigning the best player of this generation is putting the nail in the coffin of the Yankees? I don’t follow that logic, ron.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74304 ron Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:52:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74304 My guess is Santana is going to Boston. They really want to put a nail in the Yankee's coffin. A Rod already did that when he re-signed with them. Maybe they'll beat each other up and neither will make the playoffs. It's a beautiful thing when the rich fall from grace. My guess is Santana is going to Boston. They really want to put a nail in the Yankee’s coffin. A Rod already did that when he re-signed with them. Maybe they’ll beat each other up and neither will make the playoffs. It’s a beautiful thing when the rich fall from grace.

]]> By: Walt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74302 Walt Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:23:32 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74302 <blockquote cite="One more reliever and possibly a fifth starter (if he is really cheap) ought to do it for the off season, right? "> I really hope that DD thinks this as well. I am nervous that he will be done for the off season. I would also like to see him get a catching prospect, if a reasonably priced one is available.</blockquote>

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I really hope that DD thinks this as well. I am nervous that he will be done for the off season. I would also like to see him get a catching prospect, if a reasonably priced one is available.

]]> By: Shane trapped in Athens, Ohio http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74300 Shane trapped in Athens, Ohio Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:10:01 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74300 So... How about the Tigers resigning Kenny Rogers? I have to admit I am a little worried after he only pitched 60 innings last year and was hoping the Tigers would be able to sign him cheaper with more of an incentive laden contract. Still, I think he will work fine and suck up innings if he avoids injury. Also, I am very excited to see what Francisco Cruceta can do. Sure it is tough to determine too much from 6 or so major league appearances, but it seems the Tigers brass is high on him. We will find out during spring training. One more reliever and possibly a fifth starter (if he is really cheap) ought to do it for the off season, right? So…
How about the Tigers resigning Kenny Rogers?
I have to admit I am a little worried after he only pitched 60 innings last year and was hoping the Tigers would be able to sign him cheaper with more of an incentive laden contract. Still, I think he will work fine and suck up innings if he avoids injury.
Also, I am very excited to see what Francisco Cruceta can do. Sure it is tough to determine too much from 6 or so major league appearances, but it seems the Tigers brass is high on him. We will find out during spring training.

One more reliever and possibly a fifth starter (if he is really cheap) ought to do it for the off season, right?

]]> By: Walt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74299 Walt Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:21:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74299 Wow, I sure screwed up those tags. Wow, I sure screwed up those tags.

]]> By: Walt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74298 Walt Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:20:37 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74298 <blockquote cite="Adam: December 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 am Haha, how did I miss this? I love it when someone tries stirring up dissension among the blog readers. Especially when they USE ALL CAPS. Those kind are the best." Trolls are what is wrong with the internet. I like this site specifically for its absence of trolls. <blockquote cite="Man, This guy Anthony sure has a lot of power over you guys. It really makes you guys look foolish that you can’t get him out of your heads. Don’t you see that that is PROBABLY what he wants - TO GET TO YOU? " Don't flatter yourself, there is a big difference between being annoyng and getting to people. <blockquote cite="Dave: December 2nd, 2007 at 5:27 pm roy - Are we not supposed to know that you’re Anthony? I just want to make sure I understand the game." He even lists the same nonfunctional link under the website entry of the post. <blockquote cite=”Adam:

December 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 am
Haha, how did I miss this? I love it when someone tries stirring up dissension among the blog readers. Especially when they USE ALL CAPS. Those kind are the best.”

Trolls are what is wrong with the internet. I like this site specifically for its absence of trolls.

<blockquote cite=”Man,

This guy Anthony sure has a lot of power over you guys. It really makes you guys look foolish that you can’t get him out of your heads. Don’t you see that that is PROBABLY what he wants – TO GET TO YOU? ”

Don’t flatter yourself, there is a big difference between being annoyng and getting to people.

<blockquote cite=”Dave:

December 2nd, 2007 at 5:27 pm
roy –

Are we not supposed to know that you’re Anthony? I just want to make sure I understand the game.”

He even lists the same nonfunctional link under the website entry of the post.

]]> By: Dave http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74294 Dave Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:27:21 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74294 roy - Are we not supposed to know that you're Anthony? I just want to make sure I understand the game. roy –

Are we not supposed to know that you’re Anthony? I just want to make sure I understand the game.

]]> By: roy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74293 roy Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:11:36 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/tigers-sign-kenny-rogers-and-francisco-cruceta/#comment-74293 Man, This guy Anthony sure has a lot of power over you guys. It really makes you guys look foolish that you can't get him out of your heads. Don't you see that that is PROBABLY what he wants - TO GET TO YOU? sorry, couldn't resist ALL CAPS. Anyway, any thoughts on Santana going to New York or Boston and what impact that would have on the Tigers possibly facing them in the playoffs? Sure looks like the Yanks are willing to give up more than Boston, which increases the chances of Santana taking Hughes' spot in the rotation. Man,

This guy Anthony sure has a lot of power over you guys. It really makes you guys look foolish that you can’t get him out of your heads. Don’t you see that that is PROBABLY what he wants – TO GET TO YOU? sorry, couldn’t resist ALL CAPS. Anyway, any thoughts on Santana going to New York or Boston and what impact that would have on the Tigers possibly facing them in the playoffs? Sure looks like the Yanks are willing to give up more than Boston, which increases the chances of Santana taking Hughes’ spot in the rotation.

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