How is it irrelevant? The Players he represents are his employers and he reflects their desires and demands. If a player is easily persuaded, again, by the thought of more money, how does that make Boras a bad guy.

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How is it in any way shape or form, relevant? In my opinion, an unethical act doesn’t all of a sudden become ethical simply because you get paid to do it. So as long as you get paid to do something, its ethical? Think about that. Extortion is very profitable, does that mean its honorable?

That’s not my model of ethics.

That’s why people usually do unethical things in the first place, for personal gain.

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And I NEVER see anyone defend Boras —

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We’ve had radically different experiences. As I can’t remember the last time I saw him get ripped in a message board/blog/forum, without multiple people running to his defense.

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If a player is easily persuaded, again, by the thought of more money, how does that make Boras a bad guy.

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Nothing wrong with that, never said there was. Although it really is too general a statement. There are different ways to make money, some are honorable, some are…..questionable. Boras seems to truly enjoy the latter. Just a handful of examples have already been mentioned.

Though I agree with your assessment Mike, Boras does in fact play a huge role in convincing the players to go for more money instead of where they are comfortable.

For instance Boras and the Braves over Furcal. Furcal promised the Braves that he would allow the Braves to counter any offer by any team back in ‘03. The braves weren’t even notified that Furcal signed with th Dodgers. Boras went ahead and signed with Furcal. Now To be frank I believe that Boras convinced Furcal to not talk with the Braves after the Dodgers made the offer. Boras is brilliant but he is the cause for many teams that had excellent chemistry to be broken up by convincing those FA to sign elsewhere and test the free agency market.

Not to mention the annoucement of K-ROD’s opting out of his contract during game 4 of the World Series. That was rude and Boras should have never let that out before the World Series ended.

Kenny was going to sign here until Boras convinced him to try the market. He is coniving but also brilliant. But the baseball world would be so much better without him in it.

In any case, Rogers will not be a Tiger in ‘08. And thats a 85% probability. Good Luck to Rogers in ‘08 and after. I hope he comes back to be a coach for us after he retires. He’s a great mentor. So long Kenny.

So Boras shouldn’t get any slack simply because his clients are easily persuaded by money? That’s about all I took from that. Again, his job is to get the most money for his client and he does that. I’m sure the clients aren’t tied up and held at gun point to sign anything and they can fire him at any moment. But they don’t. They hire him to get them as much money as possible, period.

I don’t think anyone is under the impression that Boras doesn’t get paid. The fact that someone is paying him to do questionable things is irrelevant. Not to mention, there’s plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest he pressures clients to go over the top.

Besides, for every Boras detractor, there are 5 people sprinting to his defense. He should have more people ripping on him.

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How is it irrelevant? The Players he represents are his employers and he reflects their desires and demands. If a player is easily persuaded, again, by the thought of more money, how does that make Boras a bad guy. And I NEVER see anyone defend Boras — and I’m not surprised, he is quite the fast talking, manipulative, cheesy used-car-salesman type that rubs people the wrong way — but he’s reflecting what his players pay him for.

I think him being a healthy bullpen member for the Tigers this year would help stabilize a bullpen hurting from a Zumayaless bullpen. He brings a nice fastball and curve and a good attitude in the clubhouse. And that he has past injuries will just make him look even more cheaper. Tigers have a nack for picking up players other teams wont touch because of injuries.

I still like Brian Fuentes over Dotel but still Dotel will come a lot cheaper then Fuentes. Only time will tell what Dombrowski AND Leyland want.

Tigers have been in contact with Octavio Dotel, This would be an awesome signing but If he is injury plagued it will be Kenny all over again. But if he can prove that he is healthier then he would be a great addition. Thoughts?

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I really like the idea of a healthy Dotel in the Tiger bullpen. Yes, he’s an injury risk. But I’m thinking his past injuries could make him cheap.

People should lay off of Boras. He’s doing what his clients employ him to do. When do the players get ripped for being greedy rather then the figurehead representing them?

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I don’t think anyone is under the impression that Boras doesn’t get paid. The fact that someone is paying him to do questionable things is irrelevant. Not to mention, there’s plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest he pressures clients to go over the top.

Besides, for every Boras detractor, there are 5 people sprinting to his defense. He should have more people ripping on him.

And players get ripped all the time for being greedy.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....;fext=.jsp

Tigers have been in contact with Octavio Dotel, This would be an awesome signing but If he is injury plagued it will be Kenny all over again. But if he can prove that he is healthier then he would be a great addition. Thoughts?

For instance Boras and the Braves over Furcal. Furcal promised the Braves that he would allow the Braves to counter any offer by any team back in ‘03. The braves weren’t even notified that Furcal signed with th Dodgers. Boras went ahead and signed with Furcal. Now To be frank I believe that Boras convinced Furcal to not talk with the Braves after the Dodgers made the offer. Boras is brilliant but he is the cause for many teams that had excellent chemistry to be broken up by convincing those FA to sign elsewhere and test the free agency market.

Not to mention the annoucement of K-ROD’s opting out of his contract during game 4 of the World Series. That was rude and Boras should have never let that out before the World Series ended.

Kenny was going to sign here until Boras convinced him to try the market. He is coniving but also brilliant. But the baseball world would be so much better without him in it.

In any case, Rogers will not be a Tiger in ‘08. And thats a 85% probability. Good Luck to Rogers in ‘08 and after. I hope he comes back to be a coach for us after he retires. He’s a great mentor. So long Kenny.

I like Kenny and wish him well. But this doesn’t sit well with me. Its one thing to want fair market value, to get a comparable salary. Its another to try to get overpaid RIGHT AFTER you got paid millions to sit on the DL for most of the year.

….and people wonder why Boras is disliked.

I wanted Kenny back, and still do, but only slightly now, and definitely not at this price.

It’s not like Scott Boras is throwing that out there without Kenny’s consent. Kenny EMPLOYS Scott Boras. He employs him to get him paid. And that’s not a figure that Boras came up with that Kenny didn’t approve of.

People should lay off of Boras. He’s doing what his clients employ him to do. When do the players get ripped for being greedy rather then the figurehead representing them?

And Kenny at $10 million is a no-go for me.