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		<title>By: Behind the Jersey &#187; Detroit News reporter hates bloggers</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/newsflash-reporter-hates-bloggers/#comment-75321</link>
		<dc:creator>Behind the Jersey &#187; Detroit News reporter hates bloggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at The Detroit Tigers Weblog If I had to pick my biggest beef with this whole article is that it is hypocritical. McCosky slams [...]</description>
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		<title>By: McKoskey is in the middle of it, again - Detroit Pistons Fan Community - PistonsForum.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>McKoskey is in the middle of it, again - Detroit Pistons Fan Community - PistonsForum.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tim D</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/newsflash-reporter-hates-bloggers/#comment-73398</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sportswriters just aren&#039;t journalists. (I went to college too, and I can write a topic sentence even though I didn&#039;t study journalism.)

McCosky, come down from your pedestal. You cover the Pistons, not exactly a beat that will get you a Pulitzer. 

And read the First Amendment when you get a chance. Bloggers can do whatever they darn well please and if you don&#039;t like it don&#039;t read it and don&#039;t respond to it. 

I am a certifiably insane Tiger fan, even when they are 43-119. I get more insightful and more reliable Tiger news from this blog than anywhere else. Period. And more detailed information too. Who says the Detroit News is &quot;legitimate&quot; and that DTW is, well.... &quot;illegitimate?&quot; Face it, the internet has made your &quot;legitimate&quot; (i.e. paying) job an anachronism. Anybody can publish anything, and all your precious rules no longer exist. I guess the buggy manufacturers felt the same way about Henry Ford. 

Some bloggers are idiots. Yes, McCosky, you are a master of the obvious. Some sportswriters are idiots as well. You may have earned the coveted Rob Parker Award.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sportswriters just aren&#8217;t journalists. (I went to college too, and I can write a topic sentence even though I didn&#8217;t study journalism.)</p>
<p>McCosky, come down from your pedestal. You cover the Pistons, not exactly a beat that will get you a Pulitzer. </p>
<p>And read the First Amendment when you get a chance. Bloggers can do whatever they darn well please and if you don&#8217;t like it don&#8217;t read it and don&#8217;t respond to it. </p>
<p>I am a certifiably insane Tiger fan, even when they are 43-119. I get more insightful and more reliable Tiger news from this blog than anywhere else. Period. And more detailed information too. Who says the Detroit News is &#8220;legitimate&#8221; and that DTW is, well&#8230;. &#8220;illegitimate?&#8221; Face it, the internet has made your &#8220;legitimate&#8221; (i.e. paying) job an anachronism. Anybody can publish anything, and all your precious rules no longer exist. I guess the buggy manufacturers felt the same way about Henry Ford. </p>
<p>Some bloggers are idiots. Yes, McCosky, you are a master of the obvious. Some sportswriters are idiots as well. You may have earned the coveted Rob Parker Award.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Comment on Newsflash: Reporter hates bloggers by Leelanau Sports &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Comment on Newsflash: Reporter hates bloggers by Leelanau Sports &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Original post by Leelanau Sports Guy&#226;</description>
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		<title>By: Leelanau Sports Guy&#8217;s World (aka Northern Michigan Detroit Sports Blog) at sportspig.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; McCoskey to host next Bloggers Night at the Palace*</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leelanau Sports Guy&#8217;s World (aka Northern Michigan Detroit Sports Blog) at sportspig.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; McCoskey to host next Bloggers Night at the Palace*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read Newsflash: Reporter hates bloggers at The Detroit Tiger Weblog Related Articles UPDATED! Pistons get Arroyo for Campbell, pick Pistons reach midway point, Pats vs. Eagles in Super Bowl Verlander gets rocked as Tigers slump continuing&#8230; Harrington gone this weekend? Weekend Wrapup [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MSM tosses cliches at new media &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSM tosses cliches at new media &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chris McCosky doesn&#8217;t like bloggers. Or most bloggers. Or something. I&#8217;m not touching it (because I already did two years ago and again this past summer), but plenty of other people have. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Chris McCosky doesn&#8217;t like bloggers. Or most bloggers. Or something. I&#8217;m not touching it (because I already did two years ago and again this past summer), but plenty of other people have. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense Jimmy, but no way is he making 6 figures. Not in this industry. Half that, maybe. But you don&#039;t go into journalism to get rich. It&#039;s a crappy paying industry, and they&#039;d buy him out or lay him off for something inexpensive if he had that kind of salary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense Jimmy, but no way is he making 6 figures. Not in this industry. Half that, maybe. But you don&#8217;t go into journalism to get rich. It&#8217;s a crappy paying industry, and they&#8217;d buy him out or lay him off for something inexpensive if he had that kind of salary.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Chowda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Chowda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why he doesn&#039;t seriously report on the blog scene is he doesn&#039;t want to put the good ones on equal footing with what he does.  He probably makes around six figure (just a rough guess) and he can ill afford to let his employers know there could be cheaper alternatives in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why he doesn&#8217;t seriously report on the blog scene is he doesn&#8217;t want to put the good ones on equal footing with what he does.  He probably makes around six figure (just a rough guess) and he can ill afford to let his employers know there could be cheaper alternatives in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen you beat me to the punch.  That whole &quot;trained professional&quot; crap is beyond ridiculous.

What exactly does that special j-school training entail?  Is there a class on how to avoid taking a critical look at official policy and relying solely on information from insiders who have an interest in portraying the facts in a certain light?  Is there a required class entitled, &quot;How not to ask critical questions while your country is being led to war?&quot;  Or &quot;how to write a news piece using press releases and PR statements as primary sources?&quot;

Yeah.  That journalism school training has really done wonders for our news media. 

And before someone gets all up in arms, none of this is to say that I don&#039;t gather information from traditional sources, because I most certainly do.  I just don&#039;t accept that information as the absolute truth without turning to other trusted sources that help ME put it all into critical perspective.  

Rejecting other, non-traditional sources of information because the people behind them don&#039;t have a particular degree is simply moronic and, when we&#039;re talking about something other than sports, potentially dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen you beat me to the punch.  That whole &#8220;trained professional&#8221; crap is beyond ridiculous.</p>
<p>What exactly does that special j-school training entail?  Is there a class on how to avoid taking a critical look at official policy and relying solely on information from insiders who have an interest in portraying the facts in a certain light?  Is there a required class entitled, &#8220;How not to ask critical questions while your country is being led to war?&#8221;  Or &#8220;how to write a news piece using press releases and PR statements as primary sources?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah.  That journalism school training has really done wonders for our news media. </p>
<p>And before someone gets all up in arms, none of this is to say that I don&#8217;t gather information from traditional sources, because I most certainly do.  I just don&#8217;t accept that information as the absolute truth without turning to other trusted sources that help ME put it all into critical perspective.  </p>
<p>Rejecting other, non-traditional sources of information because the people behind them don&#8217;t have a particular degree is simply moronic and, when we&#8217;re talking about something other than sports, potentially dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Walewander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walewander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points Billfer.
In my own little blog, which features heavy MSM bashing, I don&#039;t think we ever go after beat writers, for the same reasons you point out. But columnists? Hell yes, considering the scapegoating, hate campaigns, and lame attempts to be &#039;edgy&#039; or &#039;controversial&#039; that passes for so much analysis. Where are the columnists who are fun, or who can analyze what&#039;s going on the field, or make you see the game a different way? (besides Poz).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points Billfer.<br />
In my own little blog, which features heavy MSM bashing, I don&#8217;t think we ever go after beat writers, for the same reasons you point out. But columnists? Hell yes, considering the scapegoating, hate campaigns, and lame attempts to be &#8216;edgy&#8217; or &#8216;controversial&#8217; that passes for so much analysis. Where are the columnists who are fun, or who can analyze what&#8217;s going on the field, or make you see the game a different way? (besides Poz).</p>
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		<title>By: Stoeten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stoeten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done, dude. Everybody has pretty much covered everything there is to say here, but I still wanted to chime in and agree wholeheartedly that a) &quot;legitimate&quot; media types are integral to blogs and completely need to be credited as such. And b) when these kinds of guys lose their minds over blogs it seems completely self-interested and ignorant.

What really kills me, though, is the &quot;trained professionals&quot; line, as though it takes some sort of special training and understanding to know how journalism works. What a joke. Journalism school is basically for networking. Anything they have to teach can be picked up on by anyone with the slightest amount of perception-- which are the kind of people who make for better journalists in the first place. To point to that as a reason the &quot;legitimate&quot; media are somehow more creditable and worth listening to than bloggers-- who write for free and entirely out of passion-- is pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, dude. Everybody has pretty much covered everything there is to say here, but I still wanted to chime in and agree wholeheartedly that a) &#8220;legitimate&#8221; media types are integral to blogs and completely need to be credited as such. And b) when these kinds of guys lose their minds over blogs it seems completely self-interested and ignorant.</p>
<p>What really kills me, though, is the &#8220;trained professionals&#8221; line, as though it takes some sort of special training and understanding to know how journalism works. What a joke. Journalism school is basically for networking. Anything they have to teach can be picked up on by anyone with the slightest amount of perception&#8211; which are the kind of people who make for better journalists in the first place. To point to that as a reason the &#8220;legitimate&#8221; media are somehow more creditable and worth listening to than bloggers&#8211; who write for free and entirely out of passion&#8211; is pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Rings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many beat writers, mainstream media, etc. are obviously frightened for their livlihood as newspaper circulations continue to fall with the rise of blogging and alternative media.

These alternative sources, such as blogging, also serves a valuable purpose: &quot;elites,&quot; like McCosky are rightfully questioned. They don&#039;t like it, because, as he mentioned, he has a &quot;degree&quot; and &quot;ethics&quot; and, therefore, is beyond reproach. 

This kind of junk is exactly the reason that many people seek alternative sources for their news and comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many beat writers, mainstream media, etc. are obviously frightened for their livlihood as newspaper circulations continue to fall with the rise of blogging and alternative media.</p>
<p>These alternative sources, such as blogging, also serves a valuable purpose: &#8220;elites,&#8221; like McCosky are rightfully questioned. They don&#8217;t like it, because, as he mentioned, he has a &#8220;degree&#8221; and &#8220;ethics&#8221; and, therefore, is beyond reproach. </p>
<p>This kind of junk is exactly the reason that many people seek alternative sources for their news and comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Attack of the Blog Destroyer! &#187; Mack Avenue Tigers : A Detroit Tigers Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attack of the Blog Destroyer! &#187; Mack Avenue Tigers : A Detroit Tigers Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] already heard about Detroit News&#8217; Pistons beat writer Chris McCoskey&#8217;s rant on the blogging [...]</description>
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		<title>By: PistonsBlog &#187; Rip Hamilton&#8217;s Abscence Unveiled</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/newsflash-reporter-hates-bloggers/#comment-73345</link>
		<dc:creator>PistonsBlog &#187; Rip Hamilton&#8217;s Abscence Unveiled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Chris McCosky (yes Chris, I&#8217;m giving credit where credit is due), Rip Hamilton&#8217;s abscence has been explained.  He&#8217;s now a proud father and he missed [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh Hefner did all right writing in his pajamas.</description>
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