Mike R you forgot RF and DH assuming both are healthy…

Why go after Jenkins? I’d really like to see what Ryan Raburn could do over a full year.

Taking his stats from last year and multiplying it by 3 (so he would play 147 games.

84 runs, 81 rbis, 9 steals, 12 hrs, 6 triples, 36 doubles, .847 OPS, with what you guys seem to love so much a .304 BA

would Jenkins be better?

Raburn is turning 27

I’d say use the 5.5 mil or w/e they would spend on Jenkins or Stewart and use it towards another SP after Kenny (assuming he comes back for 8mil or so)

If Raburn doesn’t work out (I don’t see why he wouldn’t his minor league stats are good and he is entering his “prime”) you always can make a deal in June or w/e when some clubs have given up.

Unless they want to go after Miguel Cabrera and give up Maybin and two other good prospects and then I’m all for it.

Or go after Rowand.

I do not want a blah LF for 4-6 mil when we could easily fill that with a platoon or a deadline pickup.

Well, I’m assuming that Omar Infante won’t be back meaning that Raburn then takes over the super-sub position of backing up 2B, SS, 3B, LF, CF, and RF.

Aaron Rowand is going to be grossly over paid. Like, insanely over paid. Not to mention, he’s got injury questions and seems to embody all that you expressed concerns over Jenkins. And doesn’t fix the “no LH bat” that the Tigers have been pining for for the last few years.

And what will be available at the deadline, will that be any upgrade at all? Adam Dunn, I suppose, but the price for him will be high and he’s absolutely brutal in LF — almost to the point where his defense undoes the great things he does with the stick.

The Tigers played 43 games vs. left-handed pitchers.

So it appears Granderson didn’t start about half the games vs. left-handed pitchers.

The fact that his L/R AB ratio is about the same as Magglio’s indicates he faced some extra at bats vs. left-handed relievers. In some cases, his defense no doubt justified this in games the Tigers were ahead (see Bilfer’s post on defensive stats).

There’s also the matter of whether it’s smart to completely bench a relatively young player against all left-handers, depriving him of the ability to develop as a hitter against lefties. And, of course, teams don’t have unlimited benches and can’t pinch hit in every situation.

Anyway, he gave us 530+ PA of a 1.014 OPS against right-handers. The .494 OPS against left-handers is certainly cause for real concern–but every baseball player is a sum of his parts. And I’d be pleased to make a decent wager that the .494 # regresses upward next season.

I hope this assessment is worthy of at least a 12-year old level.

Why go after Jenkins? I’d really like to see what Ryan Raburn could do over a full year.

Taking his stats from last year and multiplying it by 3 (so he would play 147 games.

84 runs, 81 rbis, 9 steals, 12 hrs, 6 triples, 36 doubles, .847 OPS, with what you guys seem to love so much a .304 BA

would Jenkins be better?

Raburn is turning 27

I’d say use the 5.5 mil or w/e they would spend on Jenkins or Stewart and use it towards another SP after Kenny (assuming he comes back for 8mil or so)

If Raburn doesn’t work out (I don’t see why he wouldn’t his minor league stats are good and he is entering his “prime”) you always can make a deal in June or w/e when some clubs have given up.

Unless they want to go after Miguel Cabrera and give up Maybin and two other good prospects and then I’m all for it.

Or go after Rowand.

I do not want a blah LF for 4-6 mil when we could easily fill that with a platoon or a deadline pickup.

I only said the last part of the season because that’s most of what I watched.

Eric

But how many of those 119 ABs by Granderson against lefties were against starters versus situational lefties? I mean, Jim Thome and David Ortiz probably saw a lot more ABs against lefties than the rest of their team, if only because, like Granderson, they don’t do as well against lefties. I watched games in the later part of the season where Granderson started the day on the bench because there was a left-handed starter.

Knock it off with the taunting. You have mentioned Granderson’s Hall of Fame candidacy more than anyone else on here.

That said, he is declining, and anything longer then 2 years and for more then, say $5.5 per year, will be excessive in my eyes, if we go after him.

I’d much prefer, though, to make a run at Shannon Stewart. He isn’t much of a power threat but he’s above average offensively and very solid defensively as well. He’d also provide flexibility in the lineup and allow Granderson to hit lower in the order in a more run producing spot where he should be. There are some injury concerns with Stewart as his last 4 years he’s played in 92 games, 132, 44, and 146. But that is a bargaining chip that will allow suitors to drop his asking price which can’t be that high anyways. After there was little to no market for him, he went to Oakland for $1 million on a 1 year deal and he’s a FA now and something like 2 years, incentive based, with a base salary around $4-ish million does not seem out of line with me at all.

both do well against the opposite

As far as Jenkins – no thanks

I’d much rather see Raburn/Thames/The Flavor of the Month (last year Timo Perez in ‘06 Alexis Gomez etc.)

Outfielders+1st basemen = highest level of offensive production

Sizemore ‘06 Splits:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/pl.....pe=Batting

Granderson ‘07 splits:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/pl.....7g1.GFCLcF

You have to consider that Jenkins’ career success against lefties is heavily skewed towards the early part of his career. In his first 6 years he hit .268 against lefties.

In his last 4 years, his avg against LHP is .211. And if you take out his career year in 2005 that I mentioned earlier, it’s only .190.

The fact that his HR pace against LHP has actually increased over time just points towards my assertion that he has devolved into a slugging OF with high strike out numbers.

Over the last two seasons he has struck out in 38% of his ABs against LHP. (Higher than, although comparable to, Granderson’s rate of 33%)

He may still be an asset – he carried the Brewers in the first month or so this year. But after the All Star break he was worthless…against righties or lefties.

I wouldn’t mind seeing him in Detroit…but he had better come cheap.