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	<title>Comments on: Joel Zumaya to miss half of 2008</title>
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		<title>By: Steve in Kzoo</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/11/joel-zumaya-to-miss-half-of-2008/#comment-73373</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve in Kzoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seriously sucks(especially for me cause Zoom zoom is my tiger NO!!).  Anyways  The next thing on DD list HAS to be a CP.

1.Todd Jones-  Well knowing DD if Jones wants back because the Braves don&#039;t want him(they HAVE a CP in Soriano come on 29y.o. or 41y.o. take your pick), Jones will be your closer come 2008 pitchers report.  Now, since Zumaya may be not dependable for the Tigers we may see DD getting into the Gagne(hopefully 2 year deal), Cordero(maybe 2 year deal but for cheap hes not proven), or Mariano Rivera(pushing 40 yikes).  I think to be honest is to sign Jeremy Affeldt and push for a Gagne/Cordero FA deal for CP.  Affeldt is deffinently proven and should help bolster the Bullpen,  While the Gagne deal should be good for Det.

As for conspiracy theories I don&#039;t care about it, whats done is done and we(and Zoom) have to reap what he has sown(sp?)  DD go out and sign a confident closer so we don&#039;t have to worry about going south next year like the White Sox two years after they won the WS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seriously sucks(especially for me cause Zoom zoom is my tiger NO!!).  Anyways  The next thing on DD list HAS to be a CP.</p>
<p>1.Todd Jones-  Well knowing DD if Jones wants back because the Braves don&#8217;t want him(they HAVE a CP in Soriano come on 29y.o. or 41y.o. take your pick), Jones will be your closer come 2008 pitchers report.  Now, since Zumaya may be not dependable for the Tigers we may see DD getting into the Gagne(hopefully 2 year deal), Cordero(maybe 2 year deal but for cheap hes not proven), or Mariano Rivera(pushing 40 yikes).  I think to be honest is to sign Jeremy Affeldt and push for a Gagne/Cordero FA deal for CP.  Affeldt is deffinently proven and should help bolster the Bullpen,  While the Gagne deal should be good for Det.</p>
<p>As for conspiracy theories I don&#8217;t care about it, whats done is done and we(and Zoom) have to reap what he has sown(sp?)  DD go out and sign a confident closer so we don&#8217;t have to worry about going south next year like the White Sox two years after they won the WS.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give the parents a lie detector test. We&#039;ve got to get to the bottom of this before the next catastrophe happens. Joel is a walking time bomb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give the parents a lie detector test. We&#8217;ve got to get to the bottom of this before the next catastrophe happens. Joel is a walking time bomb.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gagne, Percival, Wood, and Riske all seem like good plans to me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gagne, Percival, Wood, and Riske all seem like good plans to me</p>
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		<title>By: Vince in MN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince in MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this fits in nicely with the Zumaya situation. The fans definitely have a right to an investigation here too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/03/arts/music/03zepp.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this fits in nicely with the Zumaya situation. The fans definitely have a right to an investigation here too.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/03/arts/music/03zepp.html?_r=1&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11.....ref=slogin</a></p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s official, a spark from Joel&#039;s dirt bike started the San Diego fire. While fleeing the raging inferno, he sped to his parents home. While rummaging through their attic to find his fabled guitar, a box came out of nowhere, slamming into Joel and separating his shoulder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s official, a spark from Joel&#8217;s dirt bike started the San Diego fire. While fleeing the raging inferno, he sped to his parents home. While rummaging through their attic to find his fabled guitar, a box came out of nowhere, slamming into Joel and separating his shoulder.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, it&#039;s not self-righteous to expect a little honesty from a grown man who has already missed key games due to playing Guitar Hero. Hurt yourself while riding your motorbike? Man up and admit it.  Seriously, we expect so little from these guys. Are we really living in a time where we&#039;re the moral police because we don&#039;t like being lied to? Wouldn&#039;t you expect a 10-year-old, much less an adult making hundreds of thousands of dollars, to be honest and say what really happened? If no evidence comes out to support the rumors, then great, but saying we&#039;re villifying the guy for expecting a level of honesty most of us learned in Cub Scouts or Brownies smacks of rationalizing away b.s. behavior that doesn&#039;t do either Zumaya or Tigers fans any good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, it&#8217;s not self-righteous to expect a little honesty from a grown man who has already missed key games due to playing Guitar Hero. Hurt yourself while riding your motorbike? Man up and admit it.  Seriously, we expect so little from these guys. Are we really living in a time where we&#8217;re the moral police because we don&#8217;t like being lied to? Wouldn&#8217;t you expect a 10-year-old, much less an adult making hundreds of thousands of dollars, to be honest and say what really happened? If no evidence comes out to support the rumors, then great, but saying we&#8217;re villifying the guy for expecting a level of honesty most of us learned in Cub Scouts or Brownies smacks of rationalizing away b.s. behavior that doesn&#8217;t do either Zumaya or Tigers fans any good.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just seems like a big stink about all these rumors of what really went down and like Matt said, a chance to wag our finger and play the moral police. No one&#039;s perfect, so getting to the bottom of this to vilify someone who&#039;s 22 years old with an amount of money made in just 2 seasons of baseball that many of us won&#039;t ever earn in a single year seems so self righteous. I know if I had hundreds of thousands of dollars, right now, at 21 years old,  I&#039;d buy me cars and whatnot that go fast and I&#039;d be driving them fast. And I&#039;m not even the typical wrench-head dude that&#039;s into fast cars and whatnot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just seems like a big stink about all these rumors of what really went down and like Matt said, a chance to wag our finger and play the moral police. No one&#8217;s perfect, so getting to the bottom of this to vilify someone who&#8217;s 22 years old with an amount of money made in just 2 seasons of baseball that many of us won&#8217;t ever earn in a single year seems so self righteous. I know if I had hundreds of thousands of dollars, right now, at 21 years old,  I&#8217;d buy me cars and whatnot that go fast and I&#8217;d be driving them fast. And I&#8217;m not even the typical wrench-head dude that&#8217;s into fast cars and whatnot.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or perhaps some people value honesty, integrity, and honoring your commitments(written contracts, in particular, agreeing to refrain from certain activities.  Of course I haven&#039;t seen his contract, so I don&#039;t know if there were any prohibitions or not).  I don&#039;t find that odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or perhaps some people value honesty, integrity, and honoring your commitments(written contracts, in particular, agreeing to refrain from certain activities.  Of course I haven&#8217;t seen his contract, so I don&#8217;t know if there were any prohibitions or not).  I don&#8217;t find that odd.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt in Toledo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt in Toledo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 01:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just you, Mike. I don&#039;t give a crap how he was hurt. The origin isn&#039;t going to change the length of the rehab and it isn&#039;t going to make me any less happy to see him should he come back healthy. 

I can understand fans getting huffy about this sort of thing when there&#039;s the potential to void expensive contracts, but that&#039;s not the case here. So hunting down the &quot;true story&quot; just seems like a desire to be righteous and wag our fingers at the young and foolish Joel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just you, Mike. I don&#8217;t give a crap how he was hurt. The origin isn&#8217;t going to change the length of the rehab and it isn&#8217;t going to make me any less happy to see him should he come back healthy. </p>
<p>I can understand fans getting huffy about this sort of thing when there&#8217;s the potential to void expensive contracts, but that&#8217;s not the case here. So hunting down the &#8220;true story&#8221; just seems like a desire to be righteous and wag our fingers at the young and foolish Joel.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or do the origins of his injury seem really trivial? I don&#039;t care how he got hurt -- moving boxes or racing -- either way it was a bit of carelessness. Facts are he&#039;s done for 6-8 months so I don&#039;t see the point in worrying about the &quot;truth&quot; to the racing rumors or to his story he released. We can survive just fine with out Joel, so long as Robertson doesn&#039;t have 2 DL stints, Rogers doesn&#039;t have a blood clot in his shoulder (assuming we resign him) and Rodney doesn&#039;t have a couple DL stints leaving us to rely on McKay McBride and Jason Grilli for the 8th innings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or do the origins of his injury seem really trivial? I don&#8217;t care how he got hurt &#8212; moving boxes or racing &#8212; either way it was a bit of carelessness. Facts are he&#8217;s done for 6-8 months so I don&#8217;t see the point in worrying about the &#8220;truth&#8221; to the racing rumors or to his story he released. We can survive just fine with out Joel, so long as Robertson doesn&#8217;t have 2 DL stints, Rogers doesn&#8217;t have a blood clot in his shoulder (assuming we resign him) and Rodney doesn&#8217;t have a couple DL stints leaving us to rely on McKay McBride and Jason Grilli for the 8th innings.</p>
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		<title>By: K-Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>K-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Birthday, Jim! Some enterprising individual should follow up on the motorcycle accident rumour. If he was taken to hospital in an ambulance, there is a record of it somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Birthday, Jim! Some enterprising individual should follow up on the motorcycle accident rumour. If he was taken to hospital in an ambulance, there is a record of it somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Tbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe the box story for one second. Regardless, this sucks big time for the Tigers.</description>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and happy birthday to me!</description>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldnt there be a police report then? Isn&#039;t that somthing that should be dug up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldnt there be a police report then? Isn&#8217;t that somthing that should be dug up?</p>
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		<title>By: billfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dylan -

That came from the comments section of ESPN.com&#039;s post about the injury so healthy doses of skepticism are in order there too.  It very well may be true, but remember the source.

http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/3090054</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dylan -</p>
<p>That came from the comments section of ESPN.com&#8217;s post about the injury so healthy doses of skepticism are in order there too.  It very well may be true, but remember the source.</p>
<p><a href="http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/3090054" rel="nofollow">http://myespn.go.com/s/convers.....ry/3090054</a></p>
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