I’m not saying trade him for a 33 year old I’m saying trade him away for a guy who is a SP or RP with a relatively young age about to enter his prime to complement Bondo/Verlander and add depth.

Guys that would be FA in 2009 that I think our team really could use and would not mind giving up Maybin + all of these guys aren’t old - most are between 25-29

Santana
Harden
Sheets (hmm)
Sabathia
Prior
Oliver Perez (another hmm)
AJ Burnett
John Lackey

Relievers

K-Rod

Plus there are plenty of hitters that will be up there

Yes I want to be competitive year in and year out, but the way our team is set up we need to win now and I really think that even if they sign Kenny we really could use another good or better SP.

If Miller is ready fine, good… But what if there are injuries again?

As many of you glow over Maybin, your starting to prove what I think - he would be a good trading chip for a good SP, who is about to enter or is entering his prime…

1. Granderson is only one guy. It takes three to cover an outfield.

2. & 3. You’re right, he’s only 20. What was Granderson doing at twenty? I think he was still trying to make the basketball team at UIC. Even if it takes Maybin until 2010 to develop fully, he’ll still be decently young.

4. What does “win now” mean? Lord that is a dumb phrase. The most you can do is build a team to be in contention perpetually. There is far too much of a luck factor involved in getting to the World Series to hock the farm for a 2 year window. What if we traded all of our great prospects for guys so we can “win now”? What if Sheff or Maggs or someone else important is injured in one of those two years? No. I’d rather be a team that is in contention year in, year out in the division. There are way too many variables to just say “let’s trade everyone right now and get a bunch of 33 year olds.” There are injuries (Sheff, Rogers), slump years in offense (Inge, Pudge, Monroe), slump years in pitching (Robertson, Bondo) … how are you ever going account for that?

5. You can’t always count on that. There are drought years in the draft.

6. You’re judging a player based on a handful of experiences. Scouts have great things to say about him, and they’ve seen him more than any of us. Go look at Vlad’s 1996 season. He was 20 years old and hit under .200, with one homer and a couple of strikeouts. I’m not saying that Maybin will be Vlad, but for every bad thing you have to say about him, I can point to a current major league hitter that did just as bad as Maybin did this year at MLB. Give the kid a chance.

As a side note, the underage drinking concern is kind of bogus. It’s not like he’s doing coke like Dwight Goodin was, or steroids like any number of guys were.

And you’re right to be more excited about Miller and Porcello. They are pitchers, and pitchers win games. But hitters sell tickets, and both of those things are necessary.

His health aside he could be one of the most dominant SP in MLB.

from what I’ve seen from Clevlen he has a Higgi type arm and good range

My main points are

1) We have Granderson

2) Unless Maybin will end up being a top 5 MVP candidate at least 3 times in his career, good OF (ie 100 RBIS) are easier to find than good IF or good SP/RP as evidence even this year - Jones, Hunter, Rowand?

3) I really have a hard time seeing him being better than Hunter and Crawford but then again he is only 20 so…

4) I just think we really have quite a few depth issues and really with our team are looking to win now. By the time he is ready which I would assume at the earliest (but with DD I should never assume ;)) would be in 2009 when he is 22… Shef will be 40, Guillen, Polanco 33, Magglio 35, Inge 32

5) As they have the previous 3 years they can draft talent above their slot and sign them b/c other teams are scared off…

6) He looked terrible in the OF last year, not much better at the plate, has already had problems at his age with his shoulder, underage drinking.

I didn’t include Jones Billfer but, he is supposed to be a pretty good fielder from what I’ve seen/heard.

I’m more excited about Porcello and Miller personally.

But I do hope Maybin becomes an awesome OF and a top-MVP candidate and helps to bring a WS win to Detroit, but as you guys all point out he could be a big trading ship and IMO FROM WHAT I think not too hard to replace - production wise.

Also probably I’m alittle bitter that we give up on guys - Pena and Young who were great this year and I think Infante, Shelton who are entering their prime years and I think both had a chance to help us now.

Raburn is a great bench player.

Maybin is exceptional. It is unfortunate that Maybin was left at the major league level once it was clear he wasn’t ready. But his performance there was not indicative of his true talent level. When he plays against those at the lower levels it’s clear how much better he is.

I don’t know how good Maybin will end up being, and there are a couple things that raise some eyebrows with him (gbs, k’s) but at the same time look at his age relative to his level and he stacks up quite well.

Saying we have Raburn and Clevlen and Jones are 3 of the worst reasons to make Maybin expendable.