Comments on: links for 2007-10-02

By: ron

ron — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:05:31 +0000

Granderson is Mr.Tiger. He should play every game til he asks for a day off. He”ll be better against lefties next year.

By: BobS.

BobS. — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:09:29 +0000

It’s overrated until it’s needed.
If Giles hadn’t thrown the rainbow from rightfield that he did the Padres might be in the playoffs.

By: Mike R

Mike R — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:06:43 +0000

You didn’t hurt my feelings. A throwing arm from Granderson is the last thing I’m thinking about considering the amount of ground he has to cover in CF at Comerica with a potential outfield of Marcus Thames and Magglio Ordonez surrounding him.

His defense this year was so good that his arm is a complete non-factor. An outfielder will always save more runs by having above average range then having a gun for an arm. I think it’s honestly overrated, especially from the CF position.

By: BobS.

BobS. — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:33:30 +0000

Mike R,Granderson’s +/- would be seriously effected by him throwing with his feet.You should care.
The discussion was initiated by someone commenting on Granderson’s arm strength.Some of us disagree.No one disagrees that his glovework and range are equal or better than most all other center fielders in baseball,including Sizemore,with whom he shares average at best throwing skills.
Sorry to hurt your feelings.

By: Mike R

Mike R — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:48:47 +0000

Curtis Granderson could throw with his feet for all I care as long as he’s worth 33 runs defensively in a season in CF, tied with Ichiro for the best in baseball.

And compared to Grady Sizemore and his value of -18.9 runs, I’ll gladly take Granderson’s “below average” throwing arm.

By: BobS.

BobS. — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:59:16 +0000

Strength and accuracy with consistency.

By: Greg- other Greg

Greg- other Greg — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:02:07 +0000

I’m curious how you would define a ‘below average’ arm. If you’re combining strength and accuracy into your definition, if you’re talking stats of throwing people out or something, ok, I understand. But if you’re talking strength, the pure ability to throw it the needed distance on the fly, I don’t understand the consensus opinion here arm after what I’ve seen.

Granted it was a horrible throw, but I’ve never seen anyone throw it farther than Curtis did on one occassion when he overthrew the catcher by a mile from deep CF. Not that Vlad and the other scouldn’t do it if they wanted(obviously they’d never try it in a game as it would hurt the team).

By: BobS.

BobS. — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:50:49 +0000

Also,Sizemore’s arm is also below average,especially for a guy who supposedly was recruited to play Division 1 football as a quarterback.

By: BobS.

BobS. — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:47:28 +0000

Granderson has a below average outfield arm.The only reason his assist total is as high as it is comes from him playing such a shallow centerfield.That and the fact that baserunners feel it’s safe to run on him.
While generally speaking a right fielder needs the most arm in order to make the throw to third base,it’s inaccurate to say that a strong arm isn’t necessary for a CF.Some of the best throwing arms in the game today belong to centerfielders-Jones,Hunter,Kotsay,Suzuki(okay,converted rightfielder),Edmunds.Willie Mays arm was legendary.At the same time,the best outfield throwing arms I’ve watched over the years virtually all belonged to rightfielders-Kaline,Colavito,Maris,Clemente,Evans,Barfield,Gwynn,Parker.Guillen and Guerrero have world class arms in RF.Francouer in Atlanta has an exceptional arm as well.
Granderson is not anywhere close to any of the guys listed above.More of a 4.5 tool guy.

By: David

David — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:19:03 +0000

one really good season”