Comments on: Fish Eye on the Tigers http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:11:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by date « Fast Balls http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-71669 Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by date « Fast Balls Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:03:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-71669 [...] September 14, Bill Ferris published “Fish Eye on the Tigers“, an article about the Detroit Tiger hitters’ plate discipline.On September 14, Josh [...] [...] September 14, Bill Ferris published “Fish Eye on the Tigers“, an article about the Detroit Tiger hitters’ plate discipline.On September 14, Josh [...]

]]> By: Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by author « Fast Balls http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-71668 Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by author « Fast Balls Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:02:27 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-71668 [...] September 14, he published “Fish Eye on the Tigers“, an article about the Detroit Tiger hitters’ plate [...] [...] September 14, he published “Fish Eye on the Tigers“, an article about the Detroit Tiger hitters’ plate [...]

]]> By: DanAgonistes http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-69778 DanAgonistes Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:03:09 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-69778 Very nice! You're correct in that I'm not accounting for *any* part of the ball intersecting with the zone. In effect I'm looking as far out as a pitch centered on the border but should probably move it out an additional 1.45 inches as you did. Hit by pitches are not included in the pitchf/x data today and I did not filter out bunt attempts but certainly should have. Thanks Dan Very nice! You’re correct in that I’m not accounting for *any* part of the ball intersecting with the zone. In effect I’m looking as far out as a pitch centered on the border but should probably move it out an additional 1.45 inches as you did.

Hit by pitches are not included in the pitchf/x data today and I did not filter out bunt attempts but certainly should have.

Thanks
Dan

]]> By: Ryan http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-69717 Ryan Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:45:03 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-69717 Jeff, point certainly taken, but the numbers, even without any sort of information about the count, seem to me to indicate that these two are poor bad ball hiters, not that they swing at too many bad balls. The count certainly affects any specific conclusions, but I feel safe in screaming "Way to miss that, Inge" instead of "Way to swing at that Inge" at the TV from now on. Jeff, point certainly taken, but the numbers, even without any sort of information about the count, seem to me to indicate that these two are poor bad ball hiters, not that they swing at too many bad balls. The count certainly affects any specific conclusions, but I feel safe in screaming “Way to miss that, Inge” instead of “Way to swing at that Inge” at the TV from now on.

]]> By: Jeff M http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-69709 Jeff M Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:05:12 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-69709 Ya gotta be careful, Ryan. The numbers need to be broken down by pitch count in order to make conclusions. It could be that they recognize pitches properly when they have an even or favorable count, yet flail desperately when backed against a wall. Ya gotta be careful, Ryan. The numbers need to be broken down by pitch count in order to make conclusions. It could be that they recognize pitches properly when they have an even or favorable count, yet flail desperately when backed against a wall.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-69704 Ryan Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:54:41 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/09/fish-eye-on-the-tigers/#comment-69704 Interesting... these numbers seem to indicate that Granderson's and Inge's high strikeout numbers aren't the result of swinging at too many balls, but rather not being able to hit/foul off the balls they do swing at at a league average rate; the problem isn't pitch recognition, it's the ability to reroute a swing in the middle and just get a piece instead of missing the pitch entirely. Before the dizzying highs and gut-freezing lows of the coming two weeks, I would like to thank you, Billfer, for the great stuff you put up on this site week after week after week. I consider myself a fairly knowledgeable fan, but there is some real horizon-expanding stuff I've seen on here. If the Tigers were to create some sort of publicly elected stat-geek position, you'd have my vote. 11-4 for the playoffs. Go Tigers! Interesting… these numbers seem to indicate that Granderson’s and Inge’s high strikeout numbers aren’t the result of swinging at too many balls, but rather not being able to hit/foul off the balls they do swing at at a league average rate; the problem isn’t pitch recognition, it’s the ability to reroute a swing in the middle and just get a piece instead of missing the pitch entirely.

Before the dizzying highs and gut-freezing lows of the coming two weeks, I would like to thank you, Billfer, for the great stuff you put up on this site week after week after week. I consider myself a fairly knowledgeable fan, but there is some real horizon-expanding stuff I’ve seen on here. If the Tigers were to create some sort of publicly elected stat-geek position, you’d have my vote.

11-4 for the playoffs. Go Tigers!

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