Comments on: More Porcello, the contract, and a lot of bonus http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:30:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64429 Mike R Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:00:22 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64429 3 Catcher better then Pudge? Joe Mauer, Russel Martin, Brian McCann. Done. 3 Catcher better then Pudge? Joe Mauer, Russel Martin, Brian McCann.

Done.

]]> By: Chris in Nashville http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64381 Chris in Nashville Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:04:57 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64381 I agree....that was WAY to critical...go find 3 catchers that are better than Pudge right now. I agree….that was WAY to critical…go find 3 catchers that are better than Pudge right now.

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64380 billfer Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:59:27 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64380 <blockquote>Everything’s all good except for the washed-up catcher, no left fielder, no first baseman, and a 3rd baseman who has more career strikeouts than hits. Oh and seven out of eight starters over the age of 30. Otherwise, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!</blockquote> Am I missing something? This was a post about the 2007 draft. I really don't get what you're saying. I shouldn't be happy about the draft because of the first place current team?

Everything’s all good except for the washed-up catcher, no left fielder, no first baseman, and a 3rd baseman who has more career strikeouts than hits. Oh and seven out of eight starters over the age of 30. Otherwise, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

Am I missing something? This was a post about the 2007 draft. I really don’t get what you’re saying. I shouldn’t be happy about the draft because of the first place current team?

]]> By: Dave T. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64377 Dave T. Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:33:34 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64377 There hasn't been a lot of talk about coaching in the minors. Even though some teams may be better than others at drafting, it must also be said that some teams develop talent better. I don't know if the tigers do this well or not? Any links to articles or opinions from the group? I understand you can't teach talent, but it seems like the twins constantly have a group of players with no talent whatsoever who seem to annoy tiger fans and the rest of the majors. There hasn’t been a lot of talk about coaching in the minors. Even though some teams may be better than others at drafting, it must also be said that some teams develop talent better. I don’t know if the tigers do this well or not? Any links to articles or opinions from the group? I understand you can’t teach talent, but it seems like the twins constantly have a group of players with no talent whatsoever who seem to annoy tiger fans and the rest of the majors.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64376 Stephen Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:12:43 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64376 And the team's is still under .500 since last 8/1. The jury is not only still out on Dombrowski, they haven't even taken their first lunch break. Is he better than the last regime? Yes. But that's like saying The Monkees were better than The Archies. And the team’s is still under .500 since last 8/1. The jury is not only still out on Dombrowski, they haven’t even taken their first lunch break. Is he better than the last regime? Yes. But that’s like saying The Monkees were better than The Archies.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64375 Stephen Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:07:16 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64375 Everything's all good except for the washed-up catcher, no left fielder, no first baseman, and a 3rd baseman who has more career strikeouts than hits. Oh and seven out of eight starters over the age of 30. Otherwise, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! Everything’s all good except for the washed-up catcher, no left fielder, no first baseman, and a 3rd baseman who has more career strikeouts than hits. Oh and seven out of eight starters over the age of 30. Otherwise, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

]]> By: Greg http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64374 Greg Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:52:11 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64374 Billfer needs to delete Maroth's salary from the payroll spreadsheet (unless the Tigers are still paying him). Billfer needs to delete Maroth’s salary from the payroll spreadsheet (unless the Tigers are still paying him).

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64369 Mike R Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:08:50 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64369 We've gotten a top 5 player in the first round -- regardless of where we're drafting -- 4 straight seasons now. And one of those came 3 picks before the end of the first round. I think all 3 -- Porcello, Crosby, Iorg -- break into our organization's top 10 because honestly, before this draft it was Maybin and Miller... Everyone else. Jair Jurrjens has started to close the gap but he's still No. 3 starter potential at best, in my opinion. I love the Tigers drafts, especially this year. We're turning a profit, attendance is at a record high, we're building a winner and great drafting is what keeps that going. And if we're comparing Porcello to past busted draft picks, that's unfair. Different management now. Let's look into someone Dave Dombrowski drafted: Josh Beckett. Porcello very well could be nothing more then a No. 4 starter and journeyman in his career and become a bust. Or, he could be a kid who can have 4 above-average pitches that he can control and throw in any count and be one of the best RH pitchers in the entire game. We’ve gotten a top 5 player in the first round — regardless of where we’re drafting — 4 straight seasons now. And one of those came 3 picks before the end of the first round.

I think all 3 — Porcello, Crosby, Iorg — break into our organization’s top 10 because honestly, before this draft it was Maybin and Miller…

Everyone else.

Jair Jurrjens has started to close the gap but he’s still No. 3 starter potential at best, in my opinion. I love the Tigers drafts, especially this year. We’re turning a profit, attendance is at a record high, we’re building a winner and great drafting is what keeps that going. And if we’re comparing Porcello to past busted draft picks, that’s unfair. Different management now. Let’s look into someone Dave Dombrowski drafted: Josh Beckett. Porcello very well could be nothing more then a No. 4 starter and journeyman in his career and become a bust.

Or, he could be a kid who can have 4 above-average pitches that he can control and throw in any count and be one of the best RH pitchers in the entire game.

]]> By: Rich http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64347 Rich Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:18:48 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64347 tempering excitement is fine,but just look at DD's track record from the Expos to Marlins to Detroit.hard to argue with his success. tempering excitement is fine,but just look at DD’s track record from the Expos to Marlins to Detroit.hard to argue with his success.

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64346 billfer Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:56:33 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/more-porcello-the-contract-and-a-lot-of-bonus/#comment-64346 I'm sure that not all will turn out. But, they went after guys with a lot higher ceilings this year instead of making safe picks and sticking within the slotting system. In essence, they are increasing their odds of the draft producing usable players. Plus, it is very rare that any team goes out and gets first round players of this caliber 3 years in a row. Teams bad enough to have a top 3 pick 3 years in a row typically can't afford those players year in and year out. I’m sure that not all will turn out. But, they went after guys with a lot higher ceilings this year instead of making safe picks and sticking within the slotting system. In essence, they are increasing their odds of the draft producing usable players.

Plus, it is very rare that any team goes out and gets first round players of this caliber 3 years in a row. Teams bad enough to have a top 3 pick 3 years in a row typically can’t afford those players year in and year out.

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