Comments on: Jurrjens to DL http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:11:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Around the Bases: Tigers Trail Tribe by 4 1/2 in Central « Detroit Sports Unleashed http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-67642 Around the Bases: Tigers Trail Tribe by 4 1/2 in Central « Detroit Sports Unleashed Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:43:18 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-67642 [...] Jair Jurrjens, who was in the rotation in place of Kenny Rogers, is on the disabled list with some kind of shoulder problem.  [DTW] [...] [...] Jair Jurrjens, who was in the rotation in place of Kenny Rogers, is on the disabled list with some kind of shoulder problem.  [DTW] [...]

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66599 Mike R Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:30:14 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66599 Bill, you get a guy with only 2 pitches when you jump him from A ball to the majors. Look forward to seeing the same from Andrew Miller down the line. You can't develop a 3rd pitch on the job in the majors, it's improbable. Bonderman could have been at this level by the time he was 22 had he spent 2-3 years in the minors. Instead, he's had his growth stunted for no reason, in my opinion. And the same thing is happening with Felix Hernandez in Seattle. Bill, you get a guy with only 2 pitches when you jump him from A ball to the majors. Look forward to seeing the same from Andrew Miller down the line. You can’t develop a 3rd pitch on the job in the majors, it’s improbable.

Bonderman could have been at this level by the time he was 22 had he spent 2-3 years in the minors. Instead, he’s had his growth stunted for no reason, in my opinion. And the same thing is happening with Felix Hernandez in Seattle.

]]> By: Kyle J http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66591 Kyle J Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:40:07 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66591 Durbin and Miner are pretty similar. Good movement on their pitches; effectiveness depends on whether they throw strikes. I think Durbin could have had a really solid year if he wouldn't have been bounced between the rotation and the bullpen. I say give him a spot in the rotation and don't take him out unless he pitches his way out of it. Miller and Jurrjens can split the other spot based on health; I believe Miller's getting close to the point they'll have to shut him down anyway. Durbin and Miner are pretty similar. Good movement on their pitches; effectiveness depends on whether they throw strikes.

I think Durbin could have had a really solid year if he wouldn’t have been bounced between the rotation and the bullpen. I say give him a spot in the rotation and don’t take him out unless he pitches his way out of it. Miller and Jurrjens can split the other spot based on health; I believe Miller’s getting close to the point they’ll have to shut him down anyway.

]]> By: Bill A \ Kal MI http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66588 Bill A \ Kal MI Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:18:58 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66588 from the Official Tiger page 8/26 <blockquote>While Leyland admitted he isn't the ultimate authority on Bonderman's recent struggles, he said that the lack of a third pitch would be his reason for the issues if he were an impartial observer. "He has two very good pitches, but you have to be able to throw a swing-and-miss changeup," Leyland said. </blockquote> this matches my observations pretty close chat happens to Bondo though is that that viscious slider -- is -- outta the strike zone generally now that's gonna work if ya got the guy 0-2 but on 2-0 it's death: it means ya go 3-0 and then what? throw the fastball? yeah that's what the hitters are wait'n on and that's why it's "Bombed again" Bondo will have to learn to throw something besides the fastball over for a strike. And like Leyland sez, ya gotta have a change to go with that fastball and -- I think -- a good MLB pitcher has to have a good curve too that he can throw for a strike and that he don't hang too often from the Official Tiger page 8/26

While Leyland admitted he isn’t the ultimate authority on Bonderman’s recent struggles, he said that the lack of a third pitch would be his reason for the issues if he were an impartial observer.

“He has two very good pitches, but you have to be able to throw a swing-and-miss changeup,” Leyland said.

this matches my observations pretty close

chat happens to Bondo though is that that viscious slider — is — outta the strike zone generally

now that’s gonna work if ya got the guy 0-2 but on 2-0 it’s death: it means ya go 3-0 and then what? throw the fastball? yeah that’s what the hitters are wait’n on and that’s why it’s “Bombed again”

Bondo will have to learn to throw something besides the fastball over for a strike. And like Leyland sez, ya gotta have a change to go with that fastball and — I think — a good MLB pitcher has to have a good curve too that he can throw for a strike and that he don’t hang too often

]]> By: Ken in Cincinnati http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66586 Ken in Cincinnati Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:46:13 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66586 Yeah, I think you just pop Durbin into the rotation and Zach Miner will fill his old role. I always thought of them as the same pitcher anyway. Yeah, I think you just pop Durbin into the rotation and Zach Miner will fill his old role. I always thought of them as the same pitcher anyway.

]]> By: Coach Jim http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66583 Coach Jim Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:59:20 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66583 I think Chad Durbin has earned the spot in the rotation. I think Chad Durbin has earned the spot in the rotation.

]]> By: Matt in Toledo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66581 Matt in Toledo Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:47:21 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/jurrjens-to-dl/#comment-66581 I'm pretty sure Jurrjens was kept out of the AFL because of problems with his shoulder last season. That has me concerned, but I don't know what that means going forward. I'd imagine with his size and now repeated shoulder issues you're going to hear more questions about whether he can hold up as a starter for an entire major league season. I’m pretty sure Jurrjens was kept out of the AFL because of problems with his shoulder last season. That has me concerned, but I don’t know what that means going forward. I’d imagine with his size and now repeated shoulder issues you’re going to hear more questions about whether he can hold up as a starter for an entire major league season.

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