Game 130: Yankees at Tigers

by billfer on August 26, 2007 · 175 comments

in 2007 Season,Game Post

PREGAME: It will be a battle of rookies as the Yankees send out phenom Phillip Hughes while the Tigers counter with Jair Jurrjens.

Jurrjens seems to have mastered the Cleveland Indians with 2 strong starts against the Tribe. Of course it’s hard to say what will happen when he faces the Yankees because we’ve never seen him face anyone else.

Hughes is making his 5th start since coming off the DL. He struggled with control in his last start walking 5 in 6 1/3 innings. In the early going he’s done a good job keeping the ball in the park with only 2 homers allowed.

Game Time 1:05

POSTGAME: I missed this entire game, but watched the condensed version on MLB.tv. So really, I have nothing to add to the 150 comments that you guys already covered. I will say that at least in the condensed version, Maybin appeared to have his best game in the field.

Also, I think Leyland is trying to get the Rodney/Zumaya platoon working like last year. There’s a huge misconception that Leyland followed a 7-8-9 pattern with Rodney/Zumaya/Jones to close out games. In actuality, he was more likely to going an inning plus with 1 of the 2 before going to Jones. That way at least one of the set up men would be available the next night.

Great win for the team today, despite only mustering 4 hits. But when 3 of them are homers that can help. But the 5 runs wouldn’t have meant a whole lot if not for the efforts of the bullpen.

 
 

{ 175 comments }

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 11:47 am

Kathy: Thanks. I just wanted to confirm what i knew: at catcher and first, Casey and Pudge are worst in OPS. Inge is last except for Punto who I don’t think is a true third baseman. Throw in the black hole that is left field and it’s a wonder we’re as close as we are.

Chris August 26, 2007 at 12:06 pm

God, I hope JJJ can produce another quality start, even if they lose. Tigers are not going to make the playoffs, and they probably won’t finish above 500. But if somehow he can show that he has a future as a solid starter for this team, then there is something positive out of what has been otherwise and utterly disappointing season.

2007 Tigers season has been flat-out miserable. Please can we at least have any hope that 2008 won’t be the same?

Ken from Cincinnati August 26, 2007 at 12:28 pm

MLB.com is playing the Tigers/Yanks game for free today, so check it out if you aren’t in the Detroit area and can’t get the game.

PHT in HK August 26, 2007 at 12:48 pm

I think the last 5 or 6 weeks have definitely been awful, but to say the entire season has been miserable is a bit of an exageration.

Kathy August 26, 2007 at 1:03 pm

Hey, what station is this game on. I’m here in MI and can’t find it.

Walewander August 26, 2007 at 1:11 pm

Jurrjen’s approach – economical, strike throwing, is so refreshing after watching Bonderman, Miller, and Verlander go to three-ball counts and struggle to put people away. I hope he stays in the rotation. Like vintage Nate ( the Nate we saw vs CLE)

And Chris, we’re going bad, but I really don’t think we’re going 11-21 the rest of the season.

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:14 pm

To call the entire season miserable is just a touch dramatic, methinks. The last few weeks, however…

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:17 pm

YES YES YES!!!

Jeff August 26, 2007 at 1:17 pm

Now that’s a good way to start. No triple this time.

boombotti August 26, 2007 at 1:17 pm

I saw that coming as soon as Matsui missed the catch. Amazing.

Walewander August 26, 2007 at 1:19 pm

AWESOME!

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:19 pm

Suddenly, it feels like June. Hope it’s not fleeting!

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 1:21 pm

Yowza!!!

Walewander August 26, 2007 at 1:22 pm

As soon as it got past Matsui, I thought ‘triple.’But Curtis still finds away to amaze me. Who hits an ITPer down the LF line?

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:26 pm

Its nice to see Carlos hitting ‘em out with regularity again.

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:27 pm

Now I’d just like to see Pudge get ANY kind of hit with some regularity. :-P

Kathy August 26, 2007 at 1:27 pm

The stinkin game is blacked out in my area. I missed an in the park HR. OMG!

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:33 pm

Oh no…

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 1:33 pm

Yeah, and he was kinda loafing it to first then turned it on.

Jeff August 26, 2007 at 1:33 pm

Jurrjens out with an arm injury on the pitch Giambi hit out. Not good. Hopefully Rogers can return to the rotation by next weekend.

Kathy August 26, 2007 at 1:34 pm

Just kill me now!

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 1:34 pm

And this season is officially toast. It’s just not our year. The gods are just not going to allow it.

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:35 pm

Ok boys, time for the offense to kick it into gear! Don’t let JJ down!

Steve in OH August 26, 2007 at 1:35 pm

oh great…

Walewander August 26, 2007 at 1:35 pm

Awful. Hope Jurrjens is OK.

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:36 pm

Could be worse, could be Grilli…

charlie August 26, 2007 at 1:37 pm

man oh man…it’s like there is no karma left…all used up last year…the kid is going great and now this…what else can happen?

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:39 pm

Don’t ask, we might find out!!

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 1:39 pm

It’s just not gonna happen this year. We don’t have the depth, few teams do, to overcome this many injuries. I guess you call Miner back up, but i just don’t see this working out well.

Rogers is nowhere near coming back, right?

Jeff August 26, 2007 at 1:44 pm

The Tigers can’t recall Miner until the 10-day window has passed. More likely they’d bring up someone like Bazardo.

It’s not clear where Rogers stands right now, though no comment is probably bad news. They can move Durbin back to the rotation, but he’s helped stabilize the bullpen.

Chris in Nashville August 26, 2007 at 1:49 pm

Posterior Shoulder Soreness? At least nothing is torn. Yeah Ken, I was mad when I saw the EI package wasn’t carrying this game, then was going to listen online when I saw it was free on MLB.TV today….NICE.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 1:50 pm

Telling sign of bad karma: our crummy players, Inge, Casey, Monroe have been the epitome of health. I know Inge broke his toe, but he didn;t miss much time…

Nice hustle on that fair pop-up Inge!

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 1:51 pm

Casey hitting .225 in day games.

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:51 pm

So far, so good. Make us love ya, Chad :-)

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:52 pm

Inge seemed to hit BETTER with a broken toe! If he needs another one broken, my address is….

Dirk August 26, 2007 at 1:53 pm

are we cursed (since the metrodome sweep)?

again an injury. Hopefully Chad Durbin has his best stuff available. We need it badly. At least so far it seems so. 1.2 Innings and no runs

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 1:56 pm

So Al Leiter just told the following anecdote about Inge on Yankees broadcast. ‘Inge told me doesn’t really have a two-strike swing. Then Leyland came over and said, ‘Do you realize you’ve struck out 40 times in your last 100 at bats?’ Leiter then said, “Inge had no idea.”

That sounds about right; clueless about your weaknesses because you’re not studying your at-bats and blaming it on pitcher treating you like Babe Ruth and Ted Williams.’

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 1:57 pm

Inge hitting .212 in day games.

JML August 26, 2007 at 1:59 pm

Sweet

Dirk August 26, 2007 at 2:00 pm

Marcus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cib August 26, 2007 at 2:01 pm

It’s like I said in an earlier post. Space Jam. The Monstars realized they missed Jair on their first swing through so they came up and grabbed his arm, too.

I can’t take it anymore.

Kathy where are you that you can’t get the game?

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 2:01 pm

As much as i carp about Leyland, this batting order should stay the same way until Sheff gets back. It’s the best ordering I’ve seen in a long time.

Kathy August 26, 2007 at 2:02 pm

About 2 hours west of Detroit.

Mike R August 26, 2007 at 2:05 pm

So, does Miner come up and fill out the back of the rotation (I’m not counting on Rogers coming back or even if he does, being of any worth) or do we go with a Virgil Vasquz/Jordan Tata (god help us) experiment.

Also, I’m so glad that I missed the game last night.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 2:05 pm

Unbelievable. Team just can’t catch a break.

Let’s hope we tack another 5 on because that might be what it takes to win this game today.

JML August 26, 2007 at 2:07 pm

Only 5?

cib August 26, 2007 at 2:10 pm

Kathy, you sound much closer! LOL One of these days we all should meet and have a Tiger Weblog-fest.
Let’s hold on, Tigers!!

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 2:11 pm

That hit by Matsui was ridiculous. That pitch looked unhitable.

JML August 26, 2007 at 2:14 pm

Cripes.

JML August 26, 2007 at 2:15 pm

Like I said, the O better keep it up!

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 2:17 pm

How about another 10 runs JML?

cib August 26, 2007 at 2:17 pm

This is almost physically painful. I am taking a break.

JML August 26, 2007 at 2:19 pm

Yeah, 10 might help. Well, at least we have a better-hitting catcher in the game :-P

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 2:19 pm

This ump’s a jackass.

JML August 26, 2007 at 2:21 pm

Man Rabelo, that was weak.

JML August 26, 2007 at 2:24 pm

Do umps every get in trouble for too many bad calls?

JML August 26, 2007 at 2:24 pm

Do umps ever get in trouble for too many bad calls?

Mike R August 26, 2007 at 2:25 pm

How is the ump a jackass? We didn’t get a call on a ball that was 3-4 inches outside. Anytime Mario and Rod would like to call a spade a spade would be nice. That was not a strike. Anyone else growing tired of Ivan?

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 2:27 pm

If questec is keeping an eye on them, they can be guilty of a certain number of calls that are more than 2 inches out of the zone. I’m not sure what sort of sanction they face should they pass that threshold.

Comerica, however, is not a questec ballpark.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 2:30 pm

I’m not watching Mario and Rod so I don’t know what you’re talking about.

The point isn’t that particular call, but what seems to me to be an inconsistent strike-zone. He’s all over the place. Hence, he’s a jackass.

I am getting sick of Pudge losing his temper every five minutes though.

Mike R August 26, 2007 at 2:31 pm

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v624/wasteofspace04/?action=view&current=Durbin.jpg

The ball was outside. The only strike Cano got was the one he hit 431 feet to centerfield.

JML August 26, 2007 at 2:31 pm

Man, the Yankees sure can beat up on the Mudhens!

Mike R August 26, 2007 at 2:32 pm

I don’t think the ump’s zone has been that bad. From what I saw in the game Friday, that zone was 100x worse. It wasn’t even a close pitch.

JML August 26, 2007 at 2:36 pm

Thanks, Bobby Baby

JML August 26, 2007 at 2:38 pm

If Pudge would at least get back to his career hitting average, I would be less annoyed by his Prima Donna antics. Although, I must admit I do laugh my butt off every time he calls himself safe.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 2:52 pm

Looking back over some previous ABs, I guess the umps been okay. That called 3rd on Magglio was questionable but it wasn’t as far off the plate as the pitch Pudge took exception to.

I also don’t know how to navigate that portion of gameday well enough to get a more comprehensive sense of his overall consistency. From what I saw, though he’s been pretty good.

Way to stay with that ball Maggs!

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 2:52 pm

Wait a sec, went out for lunch. Did Pudge get tossed??

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 2:53 pm

What the hell happened on that play to LF?

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 2:55 pm

Pudge got tossed for continuing to argue a pitch from the Cano HR AB that he thought should have been a strike.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 2:56 pm

We’re really making Hughes works this inning.

Adam August 26, 2007 at 2:56 pm

I really wish people would stop screen capping Gameday and saying “See, it was outside!”

How about a screen cap of the actual pitch? FSN went through and replayed the pitch, showing where it crossed, and it looked like a strike.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 2:59 pm

Ok, it’s time for the vaunted bullpen we’ve been dreaming of:
zumaya 7th
rodey 8th
jones 9th

we win 5-4. right? uh, right?

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:00 pm

Yeah. It’s in the bag.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 3:06 pm

Ok, Pudge is officially a clown. Between this and his lack of discipline his HOF he’s not heading into Cooperstown on a classy note. Don’t pick up his option, spend the 13m elsewhere. I know there’s not a lot of other catchers out there, but we can piece together a platoon that hits the same. Pudge’s defensive fall-off makes it more logical. Spend the 13m on a LF and a SS if you movie Guillen to first. We’re stuck with Inge, but upgrade elsewhere.

Walewander August 26, 2007 at 3:11 pm

Debbie Downer continues his positive takes…

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:12 pm

Yeah, not picking up that option is probably a good idea. Moving Guillen over to first is great provided we get a slugging SS. What are the odds of that?

Carmona has a one run lead. We need to hang on here, because chances are KC ain’t pulling that one out.

Mike R August 26, 2007 at 3:12 pm

Adam, I saw the replay on the FSN telecast here and Rod and Mario were wondering where it was and it looked blatantly outside to me. Then I checked gameday and my suspicion was confirmed. My own eyes on the same replay Mario and Rod saw told me it was outside. Gameday just confirmed what I already saw.

And if the technology is there, why shouldn’t we use it? Wouldn’t a program like that be better then us sitting at home trying to judge from an off-set CF camera?

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:13 pm

How does the Gameday pitch-locator work Mike R?

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:17 pm

Poor Inge.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 3:18 pm

Zumaya looks great!

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 3:19 pm

Zumaya looks great!
Casey really battled!
Inge’s socks look very clean!

boombotti August 26, 2007 at 3:19 pm

Just a thought, maybe Casey should use a smaller bat or just try to go the other way with more regularity. His bat speed seems really slow of late. Either that or take a walk every now and then, just a suggestion.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:20 pm

Man oh man. Just conceding two outs every time through the lineup.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 3:21 pm

Maybin’s uniform looks, ah, forget it.

Vince in MN August 26, 2007 at 3:21 pm

Bottom 4 guys 0-12 with 6 strikeouts.

Walewander August 26, 2007 at 3:22 pm

Tigers are winning 5-4?

If you get this frustrated now, I dunno how you survived Tiger baseball, 1993-2005.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 3:23 pm

What a play by Inge.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:24 pm

By having few expectations Walewander.

JML August 26, 2007 at 3:24 pm

Maybe they’re bandwagoners ;-)

boombotti August 26, 2007 at 3:24 pm

Yeah Vince, it’s like we are playing 5 against 9 every game.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:24 pm

Nice JML.

Walewander August 26, 2007 at 3:26 pm

But Stephen has repeatedly stated that this team is not good enough to make the playoffs. So why get so bent out of shape if you don’t think we’re a playoff team?

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 3:26 pm

Well, they didn’t have any good players so my expectations were adjusted accordingly. I expect a HOF catcher not to be so petulant, I expect a 4m a year first baseman to hit at least 6 hr’s a season, and I want my 24m 3rd baseman to actually approach his at-bats intelligently.
When we had Rick Schu at first base and, uh, Jim Walewander has our utility guy my goals were slightly lower.

Tbone August 26, 2007 at 3:27 pm

I’m surprised F-Rod didn’t come out for the 8th. Excellent work from the pen so far and it’s great to hear the crowd so pumped.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 3:28 pm

Schu was at third of course.

Walewander August 26, 2007 at 3:28 pm

Jim Walewander was the utility guy on our last division winner!

And bigtime K by Zumaya there. Good to see the velocity back up too.

JML August 26, 2007 at 3:28 pm

ZOOM ZOOM lives!

Chris in Nashville August 26, 2007 at 3:30 pm

MAN….this reminds of me of the ’06 Tigers right here…score all of your runs by HR’s, and get solid relief pitching. That was Zum Zum at as good as we can hope for him the rest of the season. Hopefully Jonesy can close the door in the 9th!

Vince in MN August 26, 2007 at 3:31 pm

It’s up to the top 5 in the order to tack on a couple of runs here, because after that ain’t nothin gonna happen. And with Jones coming on in the ninth, I’m stating to hold my breath already

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:31 pm

Tribe 1 Royals 0

Still.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 3:32 pm

Well, no. I don’t think a guy with 54 ab’s over the year makes him the utility guy. That makes him the 25th man. And i was thinking more of Walewander and his .211 on the 88 team as the Tigers collapsed in the second half and began the big fade into oblivion.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 3:33 pm

But i do love the Dead Milkmen.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:37 pm

I remember channel 4 doing a piece on Walewander’s love of the Milkmen. Totally hilarious.

JML August 26, 2007 at 3:40 pm

Oh boy, its up to Jonsey. Where’s my seatbelt?

T Smith August 26, 2007 at 3:42 pm

What are the odds Jones pulls this off? I’m flippin’ a coin.

JML August 26, 2007 at 3:42 pm

Punk Rock Girl!

Walewander August 26, 2007 at 3:42 pm

Yeah, he was the 25th guy. But a decent one.

Who’s up for the Yanks?

JML August 26, 2007 at 3:43 pm

2-0. Ugh

Andrew August 26, 2007 at 3:44 pm

Grab your barf-bags and hang on. It’s ROLLERCOASTER time! :)

JML August 26, 2007 at 3:44 pm

Todd! Carlos! Wow! Pitcher fielding!

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:45 pm

WHAT A PLAY BY GUILLEN AND JONES!

I don’t think Casey is making that play.

Tbone August 26, 2007 at 3:45 pm

It’s the Rabelo/Jones anti-save combo. Commence smokin’, pacing and all other sweat prevention practices!

Andrew August 26, 2007 at 3:46 pm

YESSSSSS!!!!!!

JML August 26, 2007 at 3:47 pm

Nice

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:47 pm

Lovely! Jones owes Guillen a beer or six.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 3:47 pm

debbie downer is soooooo happy!!

Tbone August 26, 2007 at 3:47 pm

Woo-hoo! We have a chance to win a series tomorrow….

Carlos looks like our 1st baseman of the future.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:48 pm

Go Royals!

JML August 26, 2007 at 3:49 pm

I’ll be at tomorrow’s game (with my buddy the Brit, seeing his first game ever), how nice it would be to WIN the series!

Andrew August 26, 2007 at 3:49 pm

I would like to say a special thanks to the Tigers much beleaguered bullpen. What an excellent job when we had to have it with the starting pitcher leaving early with an injury.

Thanks Seay, Zumaya, & Jones! :)

Kathy August 26, 2007 at 3:49 pm

cib, we won!!!!!

T Smith August 26, 2007 at 3:50 pm

Fortunately, I called heads.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:50 pm

Hopefully we’ll get a Joe Borowski meltdown later today.

Andrew August 26, 2007 at 3:51 pm

PS – I forgot Durbin. He ate up some innings without surrendering the lead.

Walewander August 26, 2007 at 3:51 pm

Great win.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:55 pm

We need the Justin from the first half to show up tomorrow.

Jeff August 26, 2007 at 3:56 pm

Win tomorrow and the worst is behind this team, the schedule gets a lot easier. Three games at Cleveland and three at home vs. Seattle, no other opponents more than 10 over .500

At least Rodney is rested for tomorrow’s game if needed.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 3:58 pm

Any news on Sheff or Kenny?

Andrew August 26, 2007 at 4:05 pm

No new news on Sheff or Kenny which I take as bad news (as in they won’t be back any time soon).

Bill A \ Kal.MI August 26, 2007 at 4:07 pm

great game

absolutely terriffic!!

seems to me our Tigers still growl!

just a super job!

my play of the day was Inge bare hand pick up and put out at 1st. I just love what Inge can do that way!

Bill A \ Kal.MI August 26, 2007 at 4:09 pm

the real Play of the Day though was that game ending double play — what was that — 3-6-4 ? how’d that go?

T Smith August 26, 2007 at 4:15 pm

3-2 Royals thru six.

Kathy August 26, 2007 at 4:16 pm

Dan Dickerson and Jim Price couldn’t say enough about Carlos at 1st base. They were amazed at his play.

Joey C. August 26, 2007 at 4:21 pm

3-6-3.

Jason from Somewhere August 26, 2007 at 5:08 pm

Indians couldnt score a runner from 3rd in the top of the 8th. Heading into the 9th, and Soria is looking for a 4-out save. This would be nice.

And by the way, though i don’t want to write a long rant about it, this season is turning around. Not just today, not just Friday, but this team is now slowly and surely regaining its footing. Granderson is coming back around, the bullpen has had probably its best stretch all season, guillen has had his consistent power stroke. There are still areas to improve but its going to happen.

In the time i wrote that, royals got the first two indians, now sizemore is the last hope.

Jason August 26, 2007 at 5:12 pm

And Asdrubel Cabrera comes through with a clutch single to plate Sizemore after a bloop double. Its a new game…

T Smith August 26, 2007 at 5:13 pm

Indians down to their last strike, Sizemore doubles, Cabrera singles. 3-3 ninth.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 5:13 pm

Royals blow it one strike away.

Dylan August 26, 2007 at 5:17 pm

Just got back from the game. Started worrying a little bit but we held on. Pulled my record to 1-5 for the season of games I have gone too. haha.

Kyle J August 26, 2007 at 5:18 pm

Bummer. Royals just blew a one-run lead to the Indians in the 9th. Bottom of the 9th now; 3-3.

cib August 26, 2007 at 5:38 pm

Man I hate that Grady Sizemore. Out of all of their players he annoys me the most. It might have something to do with my trip to Jacobs Field last year and seeing female fans wearing t-shirts saying “Grady’s Ladies”. Ugh.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 5:48 pm

Royals equals 1990s Tigers. Geniuses at snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. Welcome to not controlling your own destiny.

Stephen August 26, 2007 at 5:50 pm

Tigers were literally a centimeter from gaining a game; royals cf had final out in his glove but didn’t hold it. It would have been a great play, but that close…

cib August 26, 2007 at 5:52 pm

The Tigers are going to have to keep winning. We can’t depend on Cleveland to lose, like the Twins did with us last year.

Kyle J August 26, 2007 at 6:01 pm

That stinks. The Royals better make it up to us when we play them this week.

Kathy August 26, 2007 at 6:02 pm

here’s an update:

Danny Knobler reports Jair is going on the DL. The MRI didn’t show anything too serious (something about bursitis) and Kenny Rogers threw today but he’s not close to being ready. Yuck!

Probably call up Miner.

Jim August 26, 2007 at 6:16 pm

That’s really too bad about jair, he was beginning to be alot of fun to watch….

It’s really time for Justin to come threw big tommorw. If we cant show we can win 2 in a row…well…

T Smith August 26, 2007 at 6:27 pm

***The Tigers are going to have to keep winning. We can’t depend on Cleveland to lose, like the Twins did with us last year***

Technically speaking, that’s not exactly true. If we win every game from here on out, we’re still not guaranteed sole possession of first place. So, technically, we do depend on Cleveland losing.

Of course I couldn’t agree with you more. We need to just keep winning.

T Smith August 26, 2007 at 6:38 pm

If we can’t show that we can win a series after eleven attempts, well… Tomorrow’s win is a must win. Especially since KC choked on the last pitch in the ninth today.

I know people will say it’s absurd to say so and still way too early to talk about. And you won’t read about it this soon in the watered-down coverage a la Danny Knobler, but when you dig a whole like the Tigers did, letting winnable games slip away, you have to face facts. There are only 32 games left and we need to gain four games on the Indians to win the division (You have to assume the Tribe will win the 1/2 game on our off day, so I’m rounding up).

That’s a lot of ground to make up. We need to start by winning a series.

Jeff August 26, 2007 at 6:53 pm

There are only 32 games left and we need to gain four games on the Indians to win the division

It’s important to note that the “no playoff/use head to head record” rule only applies if both teams have already clinched playoff berths. So if the Indians and Tigers finish with the same record and the wild card is from the East or West, there will be a one-game playoff for the division, regardless of head to head record.

Adam August 26, 2007 at 6:55 pm

Interesting fact – Granderson’s ItpHR took 14.291 seconds.

Ryan August 26, 2007 at 7:09 pm

Sorry, but I can’t let a Dead Milkmen reference slide without pointing out the simple genius of “Bitchin’ Camaro”.

Shane trapped in Athens, Ohio August 26, 2007 at 8:00 pm

The Detroit Tigers and the Dead Milkmen have somewhat of a history together. Former Tiger Jim Walewander often mentioned them as his favorite band during the 1987 season. The Dead Milkmen-Tiger connection came to a climax in 1987 when Walewander actually invited the band to come see the Tigers play and subsequently hit his first and only homerun as a Tiger in front of them.

ron August 26, 2007 at 8:18 pm

Going 22 and 10 should be enough, including 2 out of 3 from the Indians. This means playing the exact opposite from the last 5 weeks. Tall order, but the relievers have stepped up and maybe we don’t have to go as deep into the game with our shakey starters. A good start would be winning this Yankee series. Let’s go “Muss” hunting tomorrow.

Adam August 26, 2007 at 8:35 pm

Random Trivial Thing: Curtis Granderson’s ItpHR took 14.291 seconds from the crack of the bat to the touching of home plate.

Adam August 26, 2007 at 8:36 pm

I haven’t been able to post comments consistently for about a month now. Every time I try and can’t, it makes me not want to try anymore.

I put in a different email address this time, so maybe it’ll work.

Um. I was trying to say that Grandy’s Home Run took 14.291 seconds.

ron August 27, 2007 at 12:28 am

Not to look too much ahead, but Minnesota has 6 games with us, 6 games with Cleveland and their last 4 against Boston. They don’t have to rely on anyone but themselves. If Boston has clinched going into that last series, then you know a lot of regulars will be sitting. We are definitely going to have to win a boatload of games from here on out.

ron August 27, 2007 at 12:37 am

Granderson has to be faster than Maybin.

Mike R August 27, 2007 at 1:01 am

Maybin runs a 3.9 home-to-1st base time. That’s fast. The only other guy that comes to mind that runs like that out of the box is Jose Reyes (though I’m sure I’m missing a host of other speedsters).

We secured the split. I would love to win this series (and would argue that we need to win it) but at the worst we’ve split, meaning hope for the rest of the season. If we win tomorrow night, though, the hope train is up and running.

ron August 27, 2007 at 1:49 am

If Adam was correct, then Grandy was motoring at an average 17.175mph. A world class sprinter running 100 yds. in 9 seconds flat is running at an average of 22.275mph. A Zumaya 100mph. heater would take 2.4 seconds to round the bases. Adam, you’re in charge of timing Maybin when he hits his itpHR tomorrow. We need to time Casey too.

Mike R August 27, 2007 at 1:52 am

Honestly, how far would Sean Casey have to hit the ball to get an inside the park job? And would all 3 outfielders colliding and spontaneously combusting have to be apart of the deal as well?

Chris August 27, 2007 at 1:54 am

I don’t trust the reliability of the Hope Train anymore.

Too many times during this now month & a half slump, I have gotten on that train only to immediately crash as the tigers lose and lose in a way that demonstrates that their problems aren’t over. The last time the train left the station was in game one of the Cleveland series, when the Tigers got an impressive outing from their new promising rookie to beat the incredible Carmona. I thought for sure the Tigers could win another game and take the series, especially since we had Verlander take the mound the next day…. and then……

****SCREECH*****
****BAM****
****CRASH******

…..Verlander throws one of his worst games, which marked a disturbing trend showing a steady seasonal decline by our young ace. And then the bullpen gives up more runs, wasting a sizable number of runs from the Tiger bats….. Oh yes. Those same bats that would go silent on the next game as Nate Robinson throws a shutout. All this before the tigers lose that game in extra innings….. Oh ya. That loss by Zumaya….CRASH, CRASH.

If the Tigers do win tomorrow, I will be happy. But I will NOT get on that train. No way.. not unless it also leaves KC with a series win.

William August 27, 2007 at 8:09 am

ron–not be be a negative nelly, but if we go 22-10, I’ll be stunned. our pitching has just not been there–as Chris said above, we’ve been here before: every time we think we are turning a corner, one of our starters throws a big-time clunker.

the good news is, I don’t think it will take 92 wins–we may get it with 90 or less. let’s get one from JV today and see what we can do against KC and Oakland–who both beat up on us the last time out.

Jeff H August 27, 2007 at 8:22 am

Anybody else disappointed in Grandy’s homerun? ;-) It’s all about the triples!

Jim August 27, 2007 at 8:33 am

Jeff as soon as he hit the ball I was like YES! another triple!

I’ll take it tho lol

Bill A \ Kal MI August 27, 2007 at 8:50 am

after the game, interview w/ Zoom they talked about punching out A-Rod

and Zoom sez to the effect — I didn’t back off from him; I went right after him

I say that from Tiger pitching throughout the game. a lot of pitches were thrown for 0-1

and this Is what Leyland was talking about when he talked about Zach needs to “pitch to the bat”

It ain’t easy to entice the hitter to swing without throwing a peach but hey that’s why we have big league pitchers on our staff

Tonite JV needs to get out there and do likewise. if he thinks he’s gonna get the Yankees out all by himself he’s gonna get the crap pounded outta him

I liked what Jar said about his victory against the Tribe: “I let them get themselves out”. he pitched to the bat made ‘em swing and let the infield do their magic

speaking of magic I like this Santiago better each time I watch him play

remember I’m just a fan though, ain’t no baseball analyst so my job is to watch the game and make comments on this here blog.

tiff August 27, 2007 at 9:13 am

Just read through all your comments… I was at the game, and even though the score was close, it never felt like a nail biter. Reading through your comments I would’ve thought the Tigers were trailing the entire game, instead of playing with a lead.They seemed in control, and the crowd was into it. Also a perfect day for baseball. Maybe I need to just go to all the games and stop listening/watching them from home!

Kathy August 27, 2007 at 9:46 am

Tiff, if you’re our good luck charm, then please if you can afford it, go to the games.

Kathy August 27, 2007 at 9:57 am

P.S. Tiff, I checked out your blog and love it. I’m old enough to be your mom or even your grandma. But, truly, your are a girl after my own heart (at least back in the day).

ron August 27, 2007 at 10:11 am

Why baseball is such a great game is that a team like the Tigers can catch fire at just the right time. We’ve had our downtime. Time to go back to work. We got the talent. It’s all about heart,desire and the will to win. Championship teams have it, the others don’t.

Bill A \ Kal MI August 27, 2007 at 10:25 am

We got the talent. It’s all about heart,desire and the will to win. Championship teams have it, the others don’t.

yep, that was the creed of the legendary Vince Lombardi

tiff August 27, 2007 at 11:25 am

Thanks Kathy ;-)

Coach Jim August 27, 2007 at 12:14 pm

Shane Trapped in Athens:
I was at that game Walewander hit his home run. It hit the facing of the upper deck right at the seam between the bleachers and the grandstands in right.

I think Marty Castillo also drove in a couple runs that day. I was sitting about row 5, lower deck, left field. I remember FEELING the magic that team had. I remember thinking to myself “if Castillo gets a hit here, we’re going to win the World Series.” BAM

T Smith August 27, 2007 at 1:24 pm

**Adam, you’re in charge of timing Maybin when he hits his itpHR tomorrow. We need to time Casey too***

Adam, I think if you do chose to take on this task, it might behoove you to adopt another unit of measurement in timing Casey. Seconds become meaningless.

Maybe I suggest innings? As in, how many innings does it take Sean Casey to round the bases?

T Smith August 27, 2007 at 1:33 pm

***Adam, you’re in charge of timing Maybin when he hits his itpHR tomorrow. We need to time Casey too***

Adam,

If you chose to undertake the task of timing Sean Casey on an itpHR, it might behoove you to adopt another unit of measurement. “Seconds” would be meaningless. Might I suggest innings? As in, “how many innings does it take Sean Casey to round the bases?

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