Comments on: Game 127: Indians at Tigers http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Stephen http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65778 Stephen Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:21:53 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65778 And i wish i was as hopeful about the future as some of you. I'm not pessimistic, but not that optimistic. We've got great young pitching, but our position players are sort of a disaster. And i just don't see Maggs have 70% of this kind of production next year. His knees are just too beat up. We've got no first baseman, a crappy third baseman, a kid playing left field, and a catcher who can't walk. Add in Sheff approaching 40 and there's a lot to worry about. And who do we have waiting to step in besides Maybin who doesn't appear ready? Again, we have five solid young pitchers--Verlander, Miller, Bondo, Zumaya, and Rodney--which is more than most, but our everyday nine is average at best. And i wish i was as hopeful about the future as some of you. I’m not pessimistic, but not that optimistic. We’ve got great young pitching, but our position players are sort of a disaster. And i just don’t see Maggs have 70% of this kind of production next year. His knees are just too beat up. We’ve got no first baseman, a crappy third baseman, a kid playing left field, and a catcher who can’t walk. Add in Sheff approaching 40 and there’s a lot to worry about. And who do we have waiting to step in besides Maybin who doesn’t appear ready? Again, we have five solid young pitchers–Verlander, Miller, Bondo, Zumaya, and Rodney–which is more than most, but our everyday nine is average at best.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65777 Stephen Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:17:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65777 Bill A, can you pass on the name of your pharmacolgist? Or the location of your crystal meth lab? About a mile or two from the silverdome, right? Take a left at the applebee's? I'm looking for the yellow '78 K car out front? Bill A, can you pass on the name of your pharmacolgist? Or the location of your crystal meth lab? About a mile or two from the silverdome, right? Take a left at the applebee’s? I’m looking for the yellow ’78 K car out front?

]]> By: Bill A \ Kal MI http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65774 Bill A \ Kal MI Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:46:57 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65774 Mike I love to watch a well played game and to me that means seeing an un-catchable ball snatched up and the runner out by a step at 1b. And the great fielding Grandy is doing for us! Go Grandy!! Now maybe some of these guys don't hit as well as the guys in the Yankee's line up but I still like to see 'em make the great plays "12 runs on 15 hits" kinda stuff belongs in a National Guard Softball game. except we usually score more than that. Mike I love to watch a well played game and to me that means seeing an un-catchable ball snatched up and the runner out by a step at 1b. And the great fielding Grandy is doing for us! Go Grandy!! Now maybe some of these guys don’t hit as well as the guys in the Yankee’s line up but I still like to see ‘em make the great plays

“12 runs on 15 hits” kinda stuff belongs in a National Guard Softball game. except we usually score more than that.

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65771 Mike R Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:24:24 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65771 Well, Bill, you assemble a team of no-hit position players who sure can field, and I'll assemble the worst defensive team with the best bats, and we'll see who wins. Well, Bill, you assemble a team of no-hit position players who sure can field, and I’ll assemble the worst defensive team with the best bats, and we’ll see who wins.

]]> By: Bill A \ Kal MI http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65767 Bill A \ Kal MI Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:52:15 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65767 <blockquote>I’d prefer guys who [] have the ability to hit major league pitching.</blockquote> hit hit hit hit hit is that all you guys can talks about is hitting. Baseball is much more than that. I love defense and a + grade defense play definitely takes a hit away from the enemy and I love it when our Tigers do that I thought Santiago looked real promising at SS vs the Tribe Thursday. Yeah, send us your hitters we'll get them all out

I’d prefer guys who [] have the ability to hit major league pitching.

hit hit hit hit hit is that all you guys can talks about is hitting. Baseball is much more than that. I love defense and a + grade defense play definitely takes a hit away from the enemy and I love it when our Tigers do that

I thought Santiago looked real promising at SS vs the Tribe Thursday. Yeah, send us your hitters we’ll get them all out

]]> By: Rings http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65763 Rings Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:30:11 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65763 Wow... Bill A, we've been going over this, but you can have Inge and Santiago to start your AAAA team. I'd prefer guys who learn from mistakes, improve, or actually have the ability to hit major league pitching. The future of the Tigers is bright, no doubt, with much of the young talent they have in their system and his quote to "send him packing" was an exaggeration - much like calling his defense worth "2 hits a game," BUT after waiting 7 years for Inge to "develop" - it ain't happening. The fact is, 3B is not as important defensively as SS, CF, 2B and C. Its time for them to start addressing the situation via position change, younger talent or acquisition. And Ramon, likeable as he is, is not a major league starter. We didn't lose this game because the defense was shoddy, we lost this game because we didn't score any runs (against Jake Friggin' Westbrook) - and we blew one of our good chances to do so when our "clubhouse leader" Brandon made ANOTHER Little Leaguer baserunning error to end an inning, therefore leaving the guy who's leading MLB in hitting with RISP on deck. No matter how many times you hit yourself in the head with a brick, its still going to hurt. Eventually, <i>most</i> people learn to quit hitting themselves with a brick. Wow…

Bill A, we’ve been going over this, but you can have Inge and Santiago to start your AAAA team.
I’d prefer guys who learn from mistakes, improve, or actually have the ability to hit major league pitching.

The future of the Tigers is bright, no doubt, with much of the young talent they have in their system and his quote to “send him packing” was an exaggeration – much like calling his defense worth “2 hits a game,” BUT after waiting 7 years for Inge to “develop” – it ain’t happening. The fact is, 3B is not as important defensively as SS, CF, 2B and C. Its time for them to start addressing the situation via position change, younger talent or acquisition. And Ramon, likeable as he is, is not a major league starter.

We didn’t lose this game because the defense was shoddy, we lost this game because we didn’t score any runs (against Jake Friggin’ Westbrook) – and we blew one of our good chances to do so when our “clubhouse leader” Brandon made ANOTHER Little Leaguer baserunning error to end an inning, therefore leaving the guy who’s leading MLB in hitting with RISP on deck.

No matter how many times you hit yourself in the head with a brick, its still going to hurt. Eventually, most people learn to quit hitting themselves with a brick.

]]> By: punisher2006 the indians fan http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65758 punisher2006 the indians fan Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:31:36 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65758 Looks as though this team could use an off day...but no relief in the immediate future. Looks as though this team could use an off day…but no relief in the immediate future.

]]> By: Bill A \ Kal MI http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65756 Bill A \ Kal MI Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:23:52 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65756 too much concept for ya Bob? there might be more to this game than just who's on the team? too much concept for ya Bob? there might be more to this game than just who’s on the team?

]]> By: BobS. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65752 BobS. Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:52:58 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65752 Terrific insight,Bill A.My guess to your secret-a fat one before the game and during the seventh inning stretch,a beer (24oz) an inning,and a shot every time Inge or Granderson strikes out.Just enough to make Doris Roberts look like Angelina Jolie,or the 2007 Tigers look like a contender. Terrific insight,Bill A.My guess to your secret-a fat one before the game and during the seventh inning stretch,a beer (24oz) an inning,and a shot every time Inge or Granderson strikes out.Just enough to make Doris Roberts look like Angelina Jolie,or the 2007 Tigers look like a contender.

]]> By: Bill A \ Kal MI http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65746 Bill A \ Kal MI Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:05:12 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65746 we are looking at physical conditioning, injuries and team management, coaching, and mental toughness it's a long season ya gotta be tougher and meaner than the bad guy on Willie Nelson's record ya wanna come up a winner we are looking at physical conditioning, injuries and team management, coaching, and mental toughness

it’s a long season

ya gotta be tougher and meaner than the bad guy on Willie Nelson’s record ya wanna come up a winner

]]> By: Chris http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65744 Chris Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:55:09 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65744 Looking ahead to next year, if the Tigers are somehow in contention and have another strong 1st half of the season, the discussion is definitely going to have to turn on how this team is going to avoid the Big 2nd half slump, which is now officially a trend. I wonder if management & coaches should almost expect it to creep in, and should they try to find ways to minimize the decline. Here are some questions I have: Is there anything they can do? What are the similarities between last years 2nd half struggles and this years? Is there an avoidable physiological aspect that can make a team slump? Looking ahead to next year, if the Tigers are somehow in contention and have another strong 1st half of the season, the discussion is definitely going to have to turn on how this team is going to avoid the Big 2nd half slump, which is now officially a trend. I wonder if management & coaches should almost expect it to creep in, and should they try to find ways to minimize the decline. Here are some questions I have:

Is there anything they can do?

What are the similarities between last years 2nd half struggles and this years?

Is there an avoidable physiological aspect that can make a team slump?

]]> By: Bill A \ Kal MI http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65742 Bill A \ Kal MI Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:31:25 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65742 I thought Santiago looked real good at SS last night on the replay can't wait to watch him again. I'd love to assemble a death-trap infield defense . we all know what happens to guys who hit files into center tee hee Go Grandy! I thought Santiago looked real good at SS last night on the replay

can’t wait to watch him again. I’d love to assemble a death-trap infield defense . we all know what happens to guys who hit files into center tee hee Go Grandy!

]]> By: Bill A \ Kal MI http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65741 Bill A \ Kal MI Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:27:25 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65741 <blockquote>I would have sent Inge packing </blockquote> would ya dump someone who was getting two hits per game day in and day out? hardly. some guys get their hits using a bat and we know who the big hitters are. the other way is to take a hit away from the other team and when an above average defensive player is able to stop a couple balls that a regular defensive player would not get to he is doing exactly that. and those of us supporting Inge see that in Inge' play hitting ain't all there is to baseball

I would have sent Inge packing

would ya dump someone who was getting two hits per game day in and day out? hardly.

some guys get their hits using a bat and we know who the big hitters are.

the other way is to take a hit away from the other team and when an above average defensive player is able to stop a couple balls that a regular defensive player would not get to he is doing exactly that. and those of us supporting Inge see that in Inge’ play

hitting ain’t all there is to baseball

]]> By: Tbone http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65739 Tbone Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:04:43 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65739 Billfer - I did a quick check on the getaway day record. The Tigers are 2-10 since the ASB on series ending games. Those 10 losses are all consecutive, dating back to the Minnesota sweep in July and coincides with their current 10 series no-win streak. We were very respectable prior to the ASB, going 19-9 (not counting ppd games). Billfer – I did a quick check on the getaway day record. The Tigers are 2-10 since the ASB on series ending games. Those 10 losses are all consecutive, dating back to the Minnesota sweep in July and coincides with their current 10 series no-win streak.

We were very respectable prior to the ASB, going 19-9 (not counting ppd games).

]]> By: Bill A \ Kal MI http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65738 Bill A \ Kal MI Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:46:09 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/08/game-127-indians-at-tigers/#comment-65738 after the game <blockquote>"It all comes down to the mental aspect of the game," Robertson said. "There's talent on both sides, no matter who you're playing, so I think it all comes down to mentality. If you believe you can win, that's what you're going to do. We have a team here that can win."</blockquote> after the game

“It all comes down to the mental aspect of the game,” Robertson said. “There’s talent on both sides, no matter who you’re playing, so I think it all comes down to mentality. If you believe you can win, that’s what you’re going to do. We have a team here that can win.”

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