Comments on: Cameron Maybin promoted

By: Bob Chasseur

Bob Chasseur — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:06:59 +0000

Just found this website after searching the web for some comments from Craig Monroe (would love to know what his statement on this whole wild and shocking situation would be!). Look I’m as anxious as anybody to see Cameron Maybin, and if he’s half as good as they’re saying he’s really going to be something! I just hope Marcus Thames doesn’t get pushed to the back once again cause I would just love to see what he could do for a full season. I don’t think 40 homeruns is unreasonable at all, and he’s no slouch defensively either! If he’s not starting for Detroit he will be starting somewhere else someday, cause he’s no second stringer. And did You see Detroit’s won-lost record with, and then without him in the starting line-up??!! Just like Leyland says “When Thames is in the line-up good things happen.” Marcus needs to play!

By: Nate

Nate — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:17:41 +0000

Fair enough, Stephen, but, in that case, I think you’re no longer arguing about logic. Instead, it’s about how your estimation of Maybin and Miller’s relative talent lines up with someone else’s evaluation. And two people could have very different, but logically coherent evaluations of their respective position on the development curve.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:29:36 +0000

I think the Tigers keep Ramon around just because it reminds everyone they got Guillen for Santiago in one of the great heists of all time.

By: Cameron in Singapore

Cameron in Singapore — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:27:04 +0000

Wow, I don’t get the Infante move. He’s such a better player than Santiago and I thought he had finally cemented his position on the roster…Hope he’s called back up in time to be on the playoff roster.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:26:37 +0000

Well, if you’re arguing that Pitcher A, who has pitched at the highest level of college baseball, is not ready to be your fifth starter based not so much on his talent level but because he’s green, then it’s somewhat illogical to argue that Player B should be jumped up after 10 days in AA and w/o any college experience. One could argue if they both have immense raw talent, indisputable, you shouldn’t be pushing for the promotion of one and not the other. Maybe Miller could use a third pitch, maybe Maybin could work on hitting an intermediate level curve ball before facing Clemens. I just don’t think you can argue both sides on this one. I’m for both of them being on the big league roster as long as they can contribute.

By: William

William — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:17:59 +0000

I don’t get to watch most of the games, but the Infante move strikes me as kind of strange…he seems like a guy we need around permanently.

As for Monroe, sad to see him go, but it wasn’t working…I wish we could have traded him last December, but that’s life.

Fox tomorrow…is ESPN showing either tonight or Sunday’s games?

By: Nate

Nate — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:11:23 +0000

It’s only inconsistent logic if Player A = Player B is accepted as a given.

I don’t believe its at all irrational to say the following: I observe the following characteristics of Player A, which lead me to believe that he could use further seasoning the minors; when I look at Player B, I do not see these characteristics; therefore, I believe its a good idea to take a look at him in the majors.

You seem to be saying that, because I believe Robin Yount was ready to play in the majors at age 18, in order to remain “consistent”, I am forced to believe that every prospect is ready to play at that age. That position doesn’t account for the variable — i.e., the prospect in question.

Again, I’m rather agnostic on the question of both Miller and Maybin’s MLB readiness. But I think you’re wrong to call supporting one being in MLB and one being the minors illogical.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:20:44 +0000

Man, if we want give DD a break by parsing he didn’t say ‘no’ to an August call-up, well, somewhere Richard Nixon is smiling and rooting for the Tigers.

Nate, the correlation between Maybin and Miller is this: do you ruin someone’s confidence by throwing him from veritably high A ball to 50,000 plus at Yankee Stadium. What if he goes 2-32? I’m not subscribing to that–I have no earthly idea–but to have one view on Miller–this will stunt his growth!– and the opposite on Maybin–what a great opportunity–seems not to be consistent in the logic department.

By: Kathy

Kathy — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:51:07 +0000

As long as we’re chit-chatting, last night Jim Price and Dan Dickerson talked about the rumors going around regarding Pudge and whether the Tigs will pick up his option. This was when Jorge was up to bat and rumors floating about the Mets interested in acquiring him. They said the Mets might be interested in Pudge, too. They both agreed it is not a decision either one of them would want to make.

By: Lee Panas

Lee Panas — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:49:26 +0000

T. Smith, DD said there was no chance of a September call-up. This is August!

By: billfer

billfer — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:48:32 +0000

Didn’t Dombrowski say that Maybin wouldn’t be a September call-up?

At first I was going to just post this as a joke, but upon thinking a little more a September call-up is often a different breed of promotion. It’s often a chance to get a player a little exposure or see what you have if you’re season is done.

Maybin’s being called up now to help the team.

Yes it may be semantics, and it still may be BS. But I could really see a scenario where 2 weeks ago Dombrowski had the mindset he wasn’t going to go that route with Maybin, and after some really strong play he decides that Maybin can help the team right now.

By: T Smith

T Smith — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:29:54 +0000

jim-mt:

***Drombroski possibly just changing his mind after Maybin’s recent performance should[n't] be characterized as lying without some sort of proof***

I’m assuming this is what you meant to say, as I edited your statement based on what I think you meant, added in brackets… If so:

I would prefer language from DD to the effect, “….there is very little chance the Tigers organization will call Maybin up….” or even, “slim to none chance” both of which at least leaves room for “changing your mind”. When you emphatically state, “THERE IS NO CHANCE FOR A MAYBIN CALLUP,” I’m sorry, that’s just lying if it turns out differently just a couple weeks later.

Again, everybody’s allowed to be a politician from as far as the media’s concerned.

By: tiff

tiff — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:25:51 +0000

Rod Allen was just on the radio saying that there are many scouts that believe that Infante could be a starter on many American League teams. I hope we keep him, just to block potential talent from going to other teams.

By: Bill

Bill — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:17:38 +0000

wow. throwing Maybin into the fire right away. too bad about C-Mo, I think he’s being made the scapegoat for our offensive stuggles lately. Red Sox just traded Pena to the Nats so he could go there. As for Infante, just another victim of Leyland’s infatuation with National League skills at shorstop. The guy’s still only 25, if we’d give him any time to develop he could be a full time guy once Guillen moves to first permanently. I still don’t think Grilli will be sent down any time this season, just not used to the workload he’s had since Zumaya/Rodney went down.

Maybe if everyone just stops talking about the Jack Wilson rumors it won’t happen.

By: Nick

Nick — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:57:20 +0000

Tonights lineup from the Free Press, Maybin batting second.

CF Curtis Granderson
LF Cameron Maybin
DH Gary Sheffield
RF Magglio Ordonez
SS Carlos Guillen
C Ivan Rodriguez
1B Sean Casey
2B Ryan Raburn
3B Brandon Inge