Comments on: Rogers to the DL, Jordan Tata’s back http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:57:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Ben http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61820 Ben Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:06:50 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61820 Bill A. - I wouldn't want to be the first team do away with it, but I've often wondered why the starter/reliever dichotomy has persisted as well as it has. An awful lot of pitchers, even starters, get tired after a few times through the order and are at their best if they only pitch a couple of innings at a time (though some, e.g. Bonderman, seem to have the opposite problem and have to pitch for a while to settle down). It's possible that it would require more than 12 pitchers to do this effectively, though I'm not sure. The other issue is that if you have a pitcher who can dominate an entire game, you want to let him do it. But yeah, I think that someone will try this sooner or later. Bill A. - I wouldn’t want to be the first team do away with it, but I’ve often wondered why the starter/reliever dichotomy has persisted as well as it has. An awful lot of pitchers, even starters, get tired after a few times through the order and are at their best if they only pitch a couple of innings at a time (though some, e.g. Bonderman, seem to have the opposite problem and have to pitch for a while to settle down). It’s possible that it would require more than 12 pitchers to do this effectively, though I’m not sure. The other issue is that if you have a pitcher who can dominate an entire game, you want to let him do it. But yeah, I think that someone will try this sooner or later.

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61818 Mike R Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:37:50 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61818 Yeah get what you're saying Matt. I would like to see him develop into something great but I'm not sure what the odds of that. Seems every team has a toolsy Latin American youngster in their system that never pans out. I'd be stoked if he became a Felix Pie-like player (note: I haven't seen him play, so this comparison is probably wayyyy wrong... who would you compare him to possibly?). Plus, I like your site. I'm starting to frequent it semi-regularly. Yeah get what you’re saying Matt. I would like to see him develop into something great but I’m not sure what the odds of that. Seems every team has a toolsy Latin American youngster in their system that never pans out. I’d be stoked if he became a Felix Pie-like player (note: I haven’t seen him play, so this comparison is probably wayyyy wrong… who would you compare him to possibly?).

Plus, I like your site. I’m starting to frequent it semi-regularly.

]]> By: Matt in Toledo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61804 Matt in Toledo Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:37:04 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61804 Mike R Like I said, they could temper my frustration by actually getting somebody good in return for either Hernandez or Hollimon. I'm not saying Hernandez is a sure thing, and I tend to believe nobody is untouchable, but as somebody who follows and writes about the minor leagues every day I'm kind of rooting for them to not move some of the few players in the system I'm actually excited about. Mike R

Like I said, they could temper my frustration by actually getting somebody good in return for either Hernandez or Hollimon. I’m not saying Hernandez is a sure thing, and I tend to believe nobody is untouchable, but as somebody who follows and writes about the minor leagues every day I’m kind of rooting for them to not move some of the few players in the system I’m actually excited about.

]]> By: Bill A http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61803 Bill A Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:34:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61803 I think it may be time to re-think how we manage the pitching staff. The day of the Starting Rotation and the Bullpen may have come and gone with the lowering of the mound and the addition of the DH. Combine the Starting Rotation and the Bullpen into the Pitching Staff and have each pitcher pitch through the opposing line up one time and one time only. Then hand the ball to the next man. This should get everyone more appearances and shorter drills and may help keep everyone sharp. "For Discussion" I think it may be time to re-think how we manage the pitching staff. The day of the Starting Rotation and the Bullpen may have come and gone with the lowering of the mound and the addition of the DH.

Combine the Starting Rotation and the Bullpen into the Pitching Staff and have each pitcher pitch through the opposing line up one time and one time only. Then hand the ball to the next man. This should get everyone more appearances and shorter drills and may help keep everyone sharp.

“For Discussion”

]]> By: Matt in Toledo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61801 Matt in Toledo Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:57:34 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61801 Thanks Kurt. I hadn't read Knobler's column when I tried to explain to myself why they wouldn't have pulled Tata out of yesterday's start to go tomorrow. Thanks Kurt. I hadn’t read Knobler’s column when I tried to explain to myself why they wouldn’t have pulled Tata out of yesterday’s start to go tomorrow.

]]> By: Jim http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61794 Jim Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:50:36 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61794 Dickerson was talking about it and one of the 1270 shows mentioned it too. You are correct though, I couldn't find anything in 'print' about it. Dickerson was talking about it and one of the 1270 shows mentioned it too. You are correct though, I couldn’t find anything in ‘print’ about it.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61793 Kurt Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:49:47 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61793 Matt, far as I recall, a guy who is sent down to the minors can be called up to replace a guy who goes on the DL, regardless of time period. This issue has come up already this season for the Tigers. Matt, far as I recall, a guy who is sent down to the minors can be called up to replace a guy who goes on the DL, regardless of time period. This issue has come up already this season for the Tigers.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61792 Stephen Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:45:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61792 I'm banning myself for two games for my insensitivity. That was lame of me. In my slightest defense, I scanned nexis/google/local papers before making my insensitive remark and found nothing about Miner's dad. I'm assuming you guys heard it on the radio broadcast or elsewhere. I'll see you guys on Wednesday. I’m banning myself for two games for my insensitivity. That was lame of me. In my slightest defense, I scanned nexis/google/local papers before making my insensitive remark and found nothing about Miner’s dad. I’m assuming you guys heard it on the radio broadcast or elsewhere. I’ll see you guys on Wednesday.

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61790 Mike R Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:34:05 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61790 Matt, I get that Gorkys is very toolsy, but he's putting up a .283/.338/.363 line in Low-A ball. I know that he's young on top of being toolsy but his numbers are horrendous on the road. I just think the system right now is: Maybin Everyone else. I don't think Gorkys is too untouchable, nor should he be. Matt, I get that Gorkys is very toolsy, but he’s putting up a .283/.338/.363 line in Low-A ball. I know that he’s young on top of being toolsy but his numbers are horrendous on the road. I just think the system right now is:

Maybin

Everyone else. I don’t think Gorkys is too untouchable, nor should he be.

]]> By: Ryan S http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61775 Ryan S Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:43:07 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/rogers-to-the-dl-jordan-tatas-back/#comment-61775 Thanks for the info Kurt and Matt. I'm still going to hold on to hope that there's more to this than appears. If nothing else, I gotta think about something besides this atrocious series we just played. Thanks for the info Kurt and Matt.

I’m still going to hold on to hope that there’s more to this than appears. If nothing else, I gotta think about something besides this atrocious series we just played.

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