Comments on: Game 99: Tigers at White Sox http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:00:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61086 Kathy Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:52:45 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61086 Frankly, I'd love to see the Tigers dump Monroe and put Thames out there every day. At one time, there were teams interested in Monroe, but I don't know if that's the case anymore. I'm sure they are trying to give him every opportunity to turn himself around but we'll see what happens come July 31st. He may still be with the Tigers, but riding the pine. Frankly, I’d love to see the Tigers dump Monroe and put Thames out there every day. At one time, there were teams interested in Monroe, but I don’t know if that’s the case anymore. I’m sure they are trying to give him every opportunity to turn himself around but we’ll see what happens come July 31st. He may still be with the Tigers, but riding the pine.

]]> By: Anthony http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61075 Anthony Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:34:58 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61075 Of all major leaguers with enough at-bats to qualify for a batting title, Monroe has the second lowest OBP (behind jason kendall, who actually brings something defensively) and the tenth-lowest OPS. Of all major leaguers with enough at-bats to qualify for a batting title, Monroe has the second lowest OBP (behind jason kendall, who actually brings something defensively) and the tenth-lowest OPS.

]]> By: Walt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61070 Walt Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:40:59 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61070 I think it would be nice to see Hessman DH and Sheff in LF while Thames is on the DL. It would be a good way to get him into the lineup without sacrificing Casey's or Inge's defense, and upgrade the offense short term. I think it would be nice to see Hessman DH and Sheff in LF while Thames is on the DL. It would be a good way to get him into the lineup without sacrificing Casey’s or Inge’s defense, and upgrade the offense short term.

]]> By: T Smith http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61069 T Smith Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:30:23 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61069 Kathy: You are exactly right. That's the point. The team has alot invested in Monroe, so they're gonna use him. Kathy:

You are exactly right. That’s the point. The team has alot invested in Monroe, so they’re gonna use him.

]]> By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61066 Kathy Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:02:13 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61066 Shelton wasn't making almost 5 million a year. Monroe does. The Tigers are not old. Their age is not why we have lost the last 2 games or any games this year. Shelton wasn’t making almost 5 million a year. Monroe does.

The Tigers are not old. Their age is not why we have lost the last 2 games or any games this year.

]]> By: T Smith http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61065 T Smith Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:45:47 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61065 Jim: I'll grant you Leyland pinch hit for Monroe the night before; the difference being, in the former situation, there was only one out with a runner on third. All you need from a hitter in that case is to put the ball in play to get a return. Monroe had been choking all night (and most of the season, really) in similar situations... so you just have to pinch hit for Monroe in that situation. In the latter situation, once Monroe gets up there, there are likely two outs runner on first base and you need a hail Mary to tie/win. (I will add Monroe got into the on-deck circle before Inge stole second -- and depending on what Rabelo does, Leyland might even change the decision to bat Monroe if the likelihood to produce a run increases) In a situation where we need a Hail Mary (Leyland figures) Monroe has just as good a chance as anybody else to reach the seats, so why not give Monroe the shot? Again, this is all hypothetical, in an attempt to address Keith G's question -- and really the only explanation that makes sense to me. If you ask me, I never pinch hit Monroe until he's well out of his funk. The Tiger's gave Chris Shelton a much shorter leash last year -- and he was no where NEAR as bad as Monroe this year. Jim:

I’ll grant you Leyland pinch hit for Monroe the night before; the difference being, in the former situation, there was only one out with a runner on third. All you need from a hitter in that case is to put the ball in play to get a return. Monroe had been choking all night (and most of the season, really) in similar situations… so you just have to pinch hit for Monroe in that situation.

In the latter situation, once Monroe gets up there, there are likely two outs runner on first base and you need a hail Mary to tie/win. (I will add Monroe got into the on-deck circle before Inge stole second — and depending on what Rabelo does, Leyland might even change the decision to bat Monroe if the likelihood to produce a run increases) In a situation where we need a Hail Mary (Leyland figures) Monroe has just as good a chance as anybody else to reach the seats, so why not give Monroe the shot?

Again, this is all hypothetical, in an attempt to address Keith G’s question — and really the only explanation that makes sense to me.

If you ask me, I never pinch hit Monroe until he’s well out of his funk. The Tiger’s gave Chris Shelton a much shorter leash last year — and he was no where NEAR as bad as Monroe this year.

]]> By: Kyle J http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61062 Kyle J Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:52:28 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61062 In case anyone needs a visual representation of what we endured last night: http://www.fangraphs.com/wins.aspx?date=2007-07-24&team=White%20Sox&dh=2&season=2007 In case anyone needs a visual representation of what we endured last night:

http://www.fangraphs.com/wins......eason=2007

]]> By: Jim http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61054 Jim Wed, 25 Jul 2007 05:28:15 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61054 T Smith, that's a nice theory and all but what about when he pinch hit Casey last night for Monroe? Kinda throws your theory for a loop. T Smith, that’s a nice theory and all but what about when he pinch hit Casey last night for Monroe? Kinda throws your theory for a loop.

]]> By: Keith G. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61053 Keith G. Wed, 25 Jul 2007 05:24:13 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61053 T. Smith: I understand where you're coming from on your Leyland/Monroe theory, but I agree with you that this is not the time for votes of confidence. Leyland's first and foremost job is to win the game being played THAT night, not try to massage a slumping player's ego that may (but probably won't) spark him to a big second half. When Thames is available, I hope he gets the majority of the starts in LF. Its too bad we didn't ship out Monroe to some sucker-ass team last winter when his value was at its highest point. You're not the only cranky one tonight. This loss is hitting all of Tiger nation hard. T. Smith:

I understand where you’re coming from on your Leyland/Monroe theory, but I agree with you that this is not the time for votes of confidence. Leyland’s first and foremost job is to win the game being played THAT night, not try to massage a slumping player’s ego that may (but probably won’t) spark him to a big second half. When Thames is available, I hope he gets the majority of the starts in LF. Its too bad we didn’t ship out Monroe to some sucker-ass team last winter when his value was at its highest point. You’re not the only cranky one tonight. This loss is hitting all of Tiger nation hard.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61052 Stephen Wed, 25 Jul 2007 05:16:17 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/07/game-99-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-61052 Kevin you say 'Yankees have been smoking, but they are also healthy, which is a rarity for a team of geriatrics carrying around colostomy bags.' Uh, we have a 42 year old starter, a 38 year closer, a 38 yr old DH, a 2000 games caught catcher, and a right fielder with crappy knees. That sound you hear are the Tigers' adjusting their Depends undergarments. Kevin you say ‘Yankees have been smoking, but they are also healthy, which is a rarity for a team of geriatrics carrying around colostomy bags.’
Uh, we have a 42 year old starter, a 38 year closer, a 38 yr old DH, a 2000 games caught catcher, and a right fielder with crappy knees. That sound you hear are the Tigers’ adjusting their Depends undergarments.

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