Comments on: Mesa released

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By: Daniel

Daniel — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:02:30 +0000

I have to say, that I could not agree with you in 100% regarding Mesa released, but it’s just my opinion, which could be wrong

By: charlie

charlie — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:08:00 +0000

the tigers shopped maroth around in the off season…i believe they are still trying to move him.

By: Dave Wagner

Dave Wagner — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:26:29 +0000

I’ve always loved Maroth, but since his surgery all of his previous negative tendencies have just gotten worse. He’s giving up 2.2 homeruns and over ten hits per 9 innings right now, and his K to BB ratio has gone all to hell (3.08 : 3.52 ) – not a great sign for a pitcher who’s main selling point is control.

I’d be very surprised to see him on the team next year – I’m not happy about it, but what can you do?

By: Andrew

Andrew — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:20:21 +0000

Remember last year when Zach Miner began the year 6-1?

He finished 7-6 with a 4.84 ERA and was pitching out of the bullpen at the end of the season and playoffs.

Sure Durbin is doing well right now, but what happens when teams start seeing him the second, or third time through?

I am not giving up on Maroth just yet.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:16:13 +0000

Remember how well Zach Miner started out last year after replacing Maroth? He went 6-1 through July 8th (first half of 2006).

He ended up 7-6 with a 4.84 ERA and was pitching out of the bullpen at the end of the year.

I’ll take Maroth and his Major League experience right now.

What happens if Maroth is demoted and Durbin struggles like Miner did? What will Maroth’s psyche be like if he is called back up to be the 5th starter again?

Remember, this is a guy that still wants to have confidence in his arm holding up.

By: T Smith

T Smith — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:57:02 +0000

Joining the discussion late… have to agree with Jeff M on this one. Maroth isn’t the same pitcher he was before the surgery, and Durbin has settled in nicely. Maroth also loves to give up the long ball — and in a dog fight with home-run happy Cleveland down the stretch, I prefer Durbin. Save for the first couple starts, Durbin has actually been the most consistent pitcher. That said, not sure if Leyland et al will see it that way; I would never presume to figure out Leyland’s roster decisions

By: Chris in Nashville

Chris in Nashville — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:42:38 +0000

I’ll give you this Jeff M…you make a compelling argument. Durbin’s numbers are a little better than I thought, and Maroth’s are worse then I thought. I did some research on Run Support and actually Maroth has more and it appears they have pitched against similar teams…so Durbin has been a lilttle better at this point of the season. I also just read that Kenny might be back as early as June 20…so this whole topic might become more of a debate quickly.

By: Jeff M

Jeff M — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:05:29 +0000

get real Jeff M…Maroth is doing his job and is an established Major League starter…

Maroth is a middle of the road starter who's trying to prove he can still be effective after a serious surgery. He sucked at the end of last year and he's not looking much better than a "replacement pitcher" so far this year. After 10+ starts each, every one of Durbin's numbers are noticeably better. Maroth has certainly earned the benefit of the doubt, but if we continue to lose ground to Cleveland and Durbin continues to outpitch him, you have to consider switching.

By: Chris in Nashville

Chris in Nashville — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:39:56 +0000

Thanks for clearing that up Bilfer….I was trying to find that info for a while last night and I actually learned a lot about options in the process. But Durbin is still going to the pen when Rogers comes back.

By: Sam

Sam — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:02:35 +0000

I will not be surprised if it is Maroth who is pulled from the rotation. Maroth WHIP and HRs allowed are atrocious.

Durbin has much better stuff, and is kind of the pitching version of Monroe/Thames in the fact that he was at one time a very highly regarded prospect who had several small auditions through the years and failed each time. Now that he is getting a regular turn, he is pitching well.

I don’t think Maroth gets any preference because he is not a Leyland pet. They left him off of the post season roster last year and chose Miner instead. Miner only had 1 insignificant appearence in the post season. Maroth could of easily taken Miner’s place.

-Sam

By: billfer

billfer — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:43:40 +0000

Miner still has options left. This year is already an option year for him, seeing as he was already in the minors. He’ll still have an option after this year as well.

By: Chris in Nashville

Chris in Nashville — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:56:35 +0000

You could be right about Miner, I’ll have to check on that. Come on…get real Jeff M…Maroth is doing his job and is an established Major League starter…Durbin has had a few good starts and would be a tremendous spot starter and long reliever, but I wouldn’t trust him in the long run. Durbin is the odd man out when Kenny comes back.

Maroth is an EXCELLENT 5th starter, most teams would kill to have a 5th starter as good as him.

By: Mike R

Mike R — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:19:11 +0000

Maroth will keep his job. That’s just how it’s going to go — whether at that point Durbin has more numbers or not I don’t think will make much of a difference.

And Miner’s out of options? I thought he had 1 left.

By: Dave Wagner

Dave Wagner — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:43:40 +0000

But…but… Mike’s left-handed! LEFT-HANDED!