Game 59: Tigers at Rangers

PREGAME: Rubber match tonight. Mike Maroth takes on Kameron Loe. Loe has been pretty unimpressive with mediocre strike out and walk rates. He’s also not afraid to give up a homer with 8 allowed in 59 innings.

Game Time 8:35

In Game: In case you were wondering, Grandy’s 12 triples are the most by a Tiger in a season since Larry Herndon hit 13 in 1982.


  1. Bobby

    June 7, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    Man, is this offense fun to watch. It’s almost like an inning without at **least** a run is somewhat of a letdown.

  2. Bobby

    June 7, 2007 at 9:36 pm

    “Mommy, make him stop it!”

    OMFG, how I love Rod Allen.

  3. Adam

    June 7, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    I love Granderson and his triples. Love ’em.

    I think I enjoy triples more than home runs…there’s always that “Can he get there?” element.

  4. Kathy

    June 7, 2007 at 9:42 pm

    I think he’s bound and determined to score a inside the park homerun. You know that’s comin. He thought about it.

  5. Mike R

    June 7, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    Good to see Maroth putting together a good outing and maybe impressing some GMs/scouts around the league.

    Robertson was scouted by the A’s last night, reportedly.

  6. Adam

    June 7, 2007 at 9:58 pm

    Answer to the Duck question: Sam Crawford hit 26 triples in 1914.

  7. Kathy

    June 7, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    Do you think they want to trade Maroth or Robertson, Mike?

  8. Kathy

    June 7, 2007 at 10:10 pm

    Can’t stand the thought of seeing either one of those guys leaving. What would happen to Gum Time? Especially if they trade them in the middle of the season. I guess players have to be prepared for things like that but it sure would be hard to leave a good team like the Tigers.

    At this point, I almost feel sympathy for the Rangers.

  9. Adam

    June 7, 2007 at 10:11 pm

    They screwed that question up – they totally asked “By a Tiger”

  10. Mike R

    June 7, 2007 at 10:14 pm

    I think Maroth is much more likely to go then Robertson. There’s talk that maybe Robertson + a good prospect could secure someone like Saltalamacchia, the very good catching prospect who’s up with the Braves right now. I don’t see Robertson getting traded, though. He went through something similiar in 2005 and he did throw something like 223 innings last year.

  11. Angus

    June 7, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    I think that you have to look at the depth of the Tigers staff right now and see where things lead. Rogers is back soon. Between Durbin/Miner/Miller you should easily get through the rest of the year. Maroth has to prove that he is back and healthy. Robertson, I am not sure what options he has left with the minors or a rehab assignment. We do not need to overpitch young arms. With Bondo, Verlander, Miller, Trayhern, and Porcello. Hopefully the starting rotation of the future.

  12. Kathy

    June 7, 2007 at 10:20 pm

    Robertson doesn’t have any options left.

  13. Mike R

    June 7, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    I really think that Robertson is the biggest pitching chip that’s currently on the ML pitching staff that would bring back the piece(s) to fill our hole(s) in our organization. And with Miller joining the rotation next season (possibly after the deadline depending on how well his next 2 starts in Detroit go) we’re very flexible. Porcello is a HS arm that has the ability to accelerate through a minor league system pretty quickly. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s in Detroit by late 2009, honestly.

  14. Kathy

    June 7, 2007 at 10:27 pm

    I watched a bit of the draft today but how do we know if Porcello is going to college or not. He attended some sort of prep school which makes me think he’s a college kind of guy. Or do they just make him an offer he can’t refuse.

  15. billfer

    June 7, 2007 at 10:37 pm

    Kathy – he’s a smart kid who carried a 3.9 and is enrolled at UNC for this fall. That’s his leverage, and that’s how he’s going to try and get 8 million. The success of the draft lies solely on Detroit’s ability to sign him.

  16. Kathy

    June 7, 2007 at 10:40 pm

    That’s so much money. But you know some team will be willing to pay it if we don’t.

  17. Mike R

    June 7, 2007 at 10:53 pm

    No other team can sign him this year. It’s either sign with us or go play college ball at North Carolina.

    I have 100% confidence that a deal will get done.

  18. Angus

    June 7, 2007 at 10:54 pm

    What is your line of thinking? A 4 year $ 8 million contract. I went back and see that Miller is at $ 1.35 million and Verlander was at $ 1.0 million.

  19. Kathy

    June 7, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    Wouldn’t that just be the actual signing bonus. Then he would go to the minors similar to what Miller is doing.

  20. billfer

    June 7, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    A chunk would be signing bonus, and a chunk would be salary.

  21. Mike R

    June 7, 2007 at 11:09 pm

    They said he’s already on the same level as what Justin Verlander was when we took him in 2004 … and Porcello’s just 18 and Verlander was 21, I believe. He’s also said to be the best prep pitcher since Josh Beckett and he got $7 million 8 years ago so I wouldn’t be surprised if early reports are he want’s $10+ million.

    Personally, Illitch can afford it and I’d hate to see the tigers be cheap and have this kid go to UNC and we miss out on him. If he becomes a dud, okay, I can accept that. What helps us is getting him at 27 will help drive down the cost a touch. I think $9-10 million is what he’d sign for.

  22. Mike R

    June 7, 2007 at 11:11 pm

    Also, we’ve given Andrew Miller, Eric Munson, and Justin Verlander all $3+ Million bonuses. Bump that to the high $4’s and that’ll cut down on the cost.

  23. Shane trapped in Athens, Ohio

    June 7, 2007 at 11:12 pm

    I must admit, the past few days with the Rangers announcers have been a nice change.
    Acknowledging the blowout, they have turned the conversation to the lyrical merits of Vanilla Ice, whether Ice has been estranged from his mother (on account of the line “word to your mother”), and how great it would be to have Don King read the lyrics to Ice Ice Baby in the booth during a game.

  24. Kathy

    June 7, 2007 at 11:15 pm

    Here’s your graduation gift, son,….$8,000,000,000 million dollars.

  25. Anne

    June 7, 2007 at 11:16 pm

    Whatever happened to Munson?

  26. Dave Wagner

    June 7, 2007 at 11:21 pm

    He’s on the Astros now, where he continues to do absolutely nothing

  27. Matt

    June 7, 2007 at 11:36 pm

    I can’t imagine getting anything in the way of a trade for Maroth but I don’t think he will be around next year anyway..Robertson, hopefully that’s a different story…

    I’m very pleased with the way the last two games have turned out and I’m trying not to think that the Rangers are completly awful…oh yeah, sans Robertsons terrible start, the Tigs would of won that game as well.

  28. Sam

    June 8, 2007 at 10:00 am

    Granderson Has 12 Triples in 59 games. Projecting that out, he is on a pace for 33 triples.

    Since 1950, excactly 4 times has a player had 20 or more triples, they are:

    1957 – Willie Mays – 20
    1979 – George Brett – 20
    1985 – Willie Wilson – 21
    2000 – Christian Guzman – 20

    The all-time record for triples is 36 by Chief Wilson in 1912. The Tiger record is Ty Cobb with 24 in 1911 and 1917.


  29. Sam

    June 8, 2007 at 10:06 am

    Ordonez has 29 doubles in 59 games. Projecting that out, he is one pace for 80 doubles.

    The all-time record is 67 by Earl Webb in 1931. The Tiger record (and 4th alltime) is Hank Greenberg with 63.

    No one has hit 60 doubles since 1936, altough Helton, Delgado, G Anderson, Biggio, Nomar, and Berkman have all been 55+ in the last 10 years.