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		<title>By: Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by pitcher &#171; Fast Balls</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-67934</link>
		<dc:creator>Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by pitcher &#171; Fast Balls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On June 3, Bill Ferris published &#8220;A Different Look at Andrew Miller&#8221;, an article about pitchers Andrew Miller and Kenny Rogers and classifying their pitches. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by author &#171; Fast Balls</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-67925</link>
		<dc:creator>Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by author &#171; Fast Balls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On June 3, he published &#8220;A Different Look at Andrew Miller&#8221;, an article about pitchers Andrew Miller and Kenny Rogers and classifying their pitches. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by date &#171; Fast Balls</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-67919</link>
		<dc:creator>Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by date &#171; Fast Balls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On June 3, Bill Ferris published &#8220;A Different Look at Andrew Miller&#8221;, an article about pitchers Andrew Miller and Kenny Rogers and classifying their pitches. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Catalog of Enhanced Gameday analysis &#171; Fast Balls</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-62195</link>
		<dc:creator>Catalog of Enhanced Gameday analysis &#171; Fast Balls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On June 3, he published &#8220;A Different Look at Andrew Miller&#8221;, an article about pitchers Andrew Miller and Kenny Rogers and classifying their pitches. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: colin</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-58589</link>
		<dc:creator>colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for breaking that down Billfer</description>
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		<title>By: Dave T.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-58584</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I trust Leyland with the devolopment of talent.  Miller has the &#039;stuff&#039; to be in the majors.  I wonder if he benefits from throwing after Verlander, but before Bonderman in the rotation?  Verlander puts guys into slumps...then Miller can get by throwing fast balls (from the other side).  
I am getting tired of the Tom Gage &quot;Bonderman works to devolop a change up&quot; article every spring training.  I hope they emphasis this will Miller more than they did with Bonderman (different pitching coach).  
Miller is going to get shut down for a couple of starts in August/Sept anyway, so for anyone who wants to see Durbin, you will get your wish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I trust Leyland with the devolopment of talent.  Miller has the &#8217;stuff&#8217; to be in the majors.  I wonder if he benefits from throwing after Verlander, but before Bonderman in the rotation?  Verlander puts guys into slumps&#8230;then Miller can get by throwing fast balls (from the other side).<br />
I am getting tired of the Tom Gage &#8220;Bonderman works to devolop a change up&#8221; article every spring training.  I hope they emphasis this will Miller more than they did with Bonderman (different pitching coach).<br />
Miller is going to get shut down for a couple of starts in August/Sept anyway, so for anyone who wants to see Durbin, you will get your wish.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike R</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-58515</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, he doesn&#039;t &quot;belong&quot; in the majors. He &quot;belongs&quot; developing his change-up and his confidence in using his breaking ball. If he were to throw more breaking balls i&#039;d be more optimistic but he&#039;s not. When he threw them to Morneau he made him look foolish on 4 straight breaking balls before K&#039;ing him.

But he&#039;s strayed away from that and if he doesn&#039;t make the adjustment he&#039;s going to get rocked. Anyone can hit a fastball in the majors. Look at Zumaya early in the year when he was throwing nothing but gas, he was getting hit and being wild until he started using his breaking ball again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, he doesn&#8217;t &#8220;belong&#8221; in the majors. He &#8220;belongs&#8221; developing his change-up and his confidence in using his breaking ball. If he were to throw more breaking balls i&#8217;d be more optimistic but he&#8217;s not. When he threw them to Morneau he made him look foolish on 4 straight breaking balls before K&#8217;ing him.</p>
<p>But he&#8217;s strayed away from that and if he doesn&#8217;t make the adjustment he&#8217;s going to get rocked. Anyone can hit a fastball in the majors. Look at Zumaya early in the year when he was throwing nothing but gas, he was getting hit and being wild until he started using his breaking ball again.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-58511</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 08:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the Detroit Tigers are in contention and Miller is one of the top ten pitchers on the team he belongs in the majors. It just seems dealing with Miller immediate future is profoundly down the list of actual important things to worry about this team. I&#039;d worry about these few things:
1. The relief pitching putting out fires with gasoline.  
2. A first baseman with 400 plus Tigers ab&#039;s whose 06-07 slugging % is only 20 points higher than Mike Hampton&#039;s career slugging % and well below Rick Rhoden&#039;s best four or five years. And I&#039;m pretty sure at fiftysomething Rhoden could still beat Casey in a foot race. But then again so could a dead mule.
3. Mr. Platinum Sombrero still getting ab&#039;s. 
4. Whether Lamont&#039;s potbelly will blot out the sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the Detroit Tigers are in contention and Miller is one of the top ten pitchers on the team he belongs in the majors. It just seems dealing with Miller immediate future is profoundly down the list of actual important things to worry about this team. I&#8217;d worry about these few things:<br />
1. The relief pitching putting out fires with gasoline.<br />
2. A first baseman with 400 plus Tigers ab&#8217;s whose 06-07 slugging % is only 20 points higher than Mike Hampton&#8217;s career slugging % and well below Rick Rhoden&#8217;s best four or five years. And I&#8217;m pretty sure at fiftysomething Rhoden could still beat Casey in a foot race. But then again so could a dead mule.<br />
3. Mr. Platinum Sombrero still getting ab&#8217;s.<br />
4. Whether Lamont&#8217;s potbelly will blot out the sun.</p>
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		<title>By: Sports Leader &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open Thread - Game 79: Twins (41-37) at Tigers (46-32) (Bless You Boys)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sports Leader &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open Thread - Game 79: Twins (41-37) at Tigers (46-32) (Bless You Boys)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ▪▪ &#160;Billfer takes a closer look at Andrew Miller&#8217;s start last Sunday through the lens of enhanced gameday data. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ▪▪ &nbsp;Billfer takes a closer look at Andrew Miller&#8217;s start last Sunday through the lens of enhanced gameday data. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff M</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-58475</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you use the pitch movement data to color-code the pitch location chart by pitch type? I&#039;d love to see what patterns appear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you use the pitch movement data to color-code the pitch location chart by pitch type? I&#8217;d love to see what patterns appear.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-58472</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like I just looked a bunch of those posters where if you stare long enough you will see a 3-D image of a skyscraper or something. ;)

Man, all I can see are spots on my screen.  Oh, I love the 3rd person response by The Billfer - reminds me of an old Seinfeld episode, &quot;Jimmy likes Elaine&quot; or something like that.

Anyhoo - 

I think Billfer is concerned that Miller might not have the opportunity to fully develop his arsenal of pitches at the Major League level.  Billfer is just thinking long term.

Thanks for the data, Billfer.

&lt;strong&gt;PS&lt;/strong&gt; is the game still at 3:55 this afternoon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like I just looked a bunch of those posters where if you stare long enough you will see a 3-D image of a skyscraper or something. <img src='http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Man, all I can see are spots on my screen.  Oh, I love the 3rd person response by The Billfer &#8211; reminds me of an old Seinfeld episode, &#8220;Jimmy likes Elaine&#8221; or something like that.</p>
<p>Anyhoo &#8211; </p>
<p>I think Billfer is concerned that Miller might not have the opportunity to fully develop his arsenal of pitches at the Major League level.  Billfer is just thinking long term.</p>
<p>Thanks for the data, Billfer.</p>
<p><strong>PS</strong> is the game still at 3:55 this afternoon?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, a lot of effort there to parse the point of whether Miller&#039;s effort was strong or dominant. The guy is the #5 starter, don&#039;t we think we&#039;re over-thinking this? If he struggles, say, in three straight starts, he&#039;ll get sent to AAA. There will be no harm done, he&#039;ll have had a real taste of the big leagues either way. Miller is not being harmed by this experience whatsoever whether he fails or succeeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, a lot of effort there to parse the point of whether Miller&#8217;s effort was strong or dominant. The guy is the #5 starter, don&#8217;t we think we&#8217;re over-thinking this? If he struggles, say, in three straight starts, he&#8217;ll get sent to AAA. There will be no harm done, he&#8217;ll have had a real taste of the big leagues either way. Miller is not being harmed by this experience whatsoever whether he fails or succeeds.</p>
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		<title>By: billfer</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-58470</link>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billfer has no slant of hater-aid towards Andrew Miller.  Billfer loves Andrew Miller and has been impressed with the results thus far.  Billfer thinks that Mr. Miller would benefit in the long run by making another 8-12 starts at the minor league level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billfer has no slant of hater-aid towards Andrew Miller.  Billfer loves Andrew Miller and has been impressed with the results thus far.  Billfer thinks that Mr. Miller would benefit in the long run by making another 8-12 starts at the minor league level.</p>
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		<title>By: Dead Rabbit</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/06/a-different-look-at-andrew-miller/#comment-58469</link>
		<dc:creator>Dead Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billfer has a consistent journalistic slant oozing with Hater-aid towards Miller. Billfer  would rather see Miller ripening until the year 2020 in some amateur Single A League from Nantucket. After today’s gem by Miller, Billfer will be forced to drop this ultra conservative agenda and join forces with the Dead Rabbit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billfer has a consistent journalistic slant oozing with Hater-aid towards Miller. Billfer  would rather see Miller ripening until the year 2020 in some amateur Single A League from Nantucket. After today’s gem by Miller, Billfer will be forced to drop this ultra conservative agenda and join forces with the Dead Rabbit.</p>
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