Bonderman: 202 K’s divided by 893 batters faced = 22.6% K/PA rate.

Zumaya: 97 K’s divided by 300 batters faced = 28.2%

Zumaya struck out batters at a higher rate then Bondo, but the number isn’t higher because he’s a reliever.

Billfer: I agree it’s kind of hard to digest, however, it essentially says that Yovani Gallardo (according to the chart) struck out 1 of every 3 batters that came to the plate last year. While it’s funky, and takes getting used to, it’s not impossible for people to get used to it. It’s, I think, meant to be used in terms with other stats to judge pitchers. Much in the way that I think and use Fielder’s Independent Pitching (FIP) as a substitute for ERA as FIP takes the defense and luck out of it and focuses on what the pitcher can control (HR, BB’s, HBP. . .).

http://www.hardballtimes.com/t.....amp;page=1

That shows the FIP’s of AL Pitchers and Bondo’s 4th at 2.95 which indicates he’s gotten unlucky (The few infield hits in his last start that led to runs). We all know, from watching his starts, that he’s pitched like a top pitcher in the AL but has little to show for it. If a pitcher is getting unlucky/pitching in front of a poor defense, their FIP will be lower then their ERA and vice-versa for those pitching in front of great defenses or are getting lucky. I should’ve prefaced this with “I’m a total stat head and love reading/implimenting these sorts of things.”

Mark S: I’m not comparing Zumaya to Bonderman, however, using K/PA would be a much better way to compare starters and relievers (why you’d want to I don’t know, aside from maybe comparing someone who’s done both to figure out which he’s been better at. . .), as it would show the rate of how many batters they K relative to plate appearances. Their percentages shouldn’t be that much different, just because Bondo faces more batters doesn’t mean he’ll have a higher K/PA rate. Say Zumaya K’s 20 batters out of 100 that he faces. That’s 20%. Now say bondo K’s 200 out of 1000 batters faced, that’s 20% as well.

Billfer: I agree it’s kind of hard to digest, however, it essentially says that Yovani Gallardo (according to the chart) struck out 1 of every 3 batters that came to the plate last year. While it’s funky, and takes getting used to, it’s not impossible for people to get used to it. It’s, I think, meant to be used in terms with other stats to judge pitchers. Much in the way that I think and use Fielder’s Independent Pitching (FIP) as a substitute for ERA as FIP takes the defense and luck out of it and focuses on what the pitcher can control (HR, BB’s, HBP. . .).

http://www.hardballtimes.com/t.....amp;page=1

That shows the FIP’s of AL Pitchers and Bondo’s 4th at 2.95 which indicates he’s gotten unlucky (The few infield hits in his last start that led to runs). We all know, from watching his starts, that he’s pitched like a top pitcher in the AL but has little to show for it. If a pitcher is getting unlucky/pitching in front of a poor defense, their FIP will be lower then their ERA and vice-versa for those pitching in front of great defenses or are getting lucky. I should’ve prefaced this with “I’m a total stat head and love reading/implimenting these sorts of things.”

Mark S: I’m not comparing Zumaya to Bonderman, however, using K/PA would be a much better way to compare starters and relievers (why you’d want to I don’t know, aside from maybe comparing someone who’s done both to figure out which he’s been better at. . .), as it would show the rate of how many batters they K relative to plate appearances. Their percentages shouldn’t be that much different, just because Bondo faces more batters doesn’t mean he’ll have a higher K/PA rate. Say Zumaya K’s 20 batters out of 100 that he faces. That’s 20%. Now say bondo K’s 200 out of 1000 batters faced, that’s 20% as well.

His second point I find to be more compelling, but I typically will also look at bb/9 or k/bb as well so I get some of that information.

One measure that I do find interesting, and it is reported on Baseball Analysts site is K/100 pitches. Now you’re measuring strikeouts and efficiency.

It’s an interesting read. I read it on http://www.projectprospect.com which is a site ran by this guy Adam Foster who started the site, since graduated college and I believe is working in part with BaseballAmerica.com.

http://www.projectprospect.com.....ed-metric/

That’s the article. Interesting read.

Like you said, it’s probably not likely. But it is possible.