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	<title>Comments on: Game 42:  Cardinals at Tigers</title>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/05/game-42-cardinals-at-tigers/#comment-55478</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 15:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Billfer&quot;&gt;When Nate Robertson first joined the rotation, he was striking out a lot of guys but running up huge pitch counts in the process. Lately the strikeout numbers haven’t been there, but the pitch counts have. I don’t really have an answer for it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Last night, I think Nate&#039;s early and high pitch count was a result of some shoddy defense behind him -- the botched double play ball forced him to face two more batters (and throw eight more pitches, if memory serves) in that inning. 

In contemporary baseball, I think that the real price of poor fielding is not so much the unearned runs that may result from an error, but the fact that an error forces the pitcher to face more batters, and throw more pitches, than he otherwise would have. 

I know eight pitches might not seem like a lot, but if Nate had finished the fifth at 92 pitches rather than 100, I think there&#039;s a chance that Leyland allows him to pitch part or even all of the sixth.

This observation really only holds for last night&#039;s game, and can&#039;t explain every start in which Nate is up around 100 in the fifth inning.  I guess I&#039;m not sure that we should be looking for a holistic explanation for his recent struggles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Billfer"><p>When Nate Robertson first joined the rotation, he was striking out a lot of guys but running up huge pitch counts in the process. Lately the strikeout numbers haven’t been there, but the pitch counts have. I don’t really have an answer for it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Last night, I think Nate&#8217;s early and high pitch count was a result of some shoddy defense behind him &#8212; the botched double play ball forced him to face two more batters (and throw eight more pitches, if memory serves) in that inning. </p>
<p>In contemporary baseball, I think that the real price of poor fielding is not so much the unearned runs that may result from an error, but the fact that an error forces the pitcher to face more batters, and throw more pitches, than he otherwise would have. </p>
<p>I know eight pitches might not seem like a lot, but if Nate had finished the fifth at 92 pitches rather than 100, I think there&#8217;s a chance that Leyland allows him to pitch part or even all of the sixth.</p>
<p>This observation really only holds for last night&#8217;s game, and can&#8217;t explain every start in which Nate is up around 100 in the fifth inning.  I guess I&#8217;m not sure that we should be looking for a holistic explanation for his recent struggles.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike R</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/05/game-42-cardinals-at-tigers/#comment-55477</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 06:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billfer, can I just say how much I love the use of the FIP statistic? Because I really do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billfer, can I just say how much I love the use of the FIP statistic? Because I really do.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/05/game-42-cardinals-at-tigers/#comment-55476</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 03:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great team effort, Billfer.  No one player being the star but lots and lots of great defense, some great throws and great hitting spread all around.  Loved it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great team effort, Billfer.  No one player being the star but lots and lots of great defense, some great throws and great hitting spread all around.  Loved it!</p>
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		<title>By: Dead Rabbit</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/05/game-42-cardinals-at-tigers/#comment-55475</link>
		<dc:creator>Dead Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah...that fan is my tiger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah&#8230;that fan is my tiger</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He deserves it more than Jones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He deserves it more than Jones.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. Give the play of the game to that guy who picked up the ball and made that a ground-rule double. He was getting berated for it too...any way we can give him a save?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. Give the play of the game to that guy who picked up the ball and made that a ground-rule double. He was getting berated for it too&#8230;any way we can give him a save?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/05/game-42-cardinals-at-tigers/#comment-55472</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, ye, of little faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, ye, of little faith.</p>
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		<title>By: West Coast Tiger</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/05/game-42-cardinals-at-tigers/#comment-55471</link>
		<dc:creator>West Coast Tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cinn up 10-4, lets not waste this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cinn up 10-4, lets not waste this.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we win, the play of the game goes to the fan who picked up the  ball. We&#039;re tied without that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we win, the play of the game goes to the fan who picked up the  ball. We&#8217;re tied without that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have faith in JOnes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have faith in JOnes.</p>
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		<title>By: billfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, how many insurance runs is the offense expected to score?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, how many insurance runs is the offense expected to score?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m gonna die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gonna die.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I hate that Spezio guy.  And his little soul patch too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I hate that Spezio guy.  And his little soul patch too.</p>
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		<title>By: West Coast Tiger</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/05/game-42-cardinals-at-tigers/#comment-55465</link>
		<dc:creator>West Coast Tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Adam

Meanwhile,  Jones is making it interesting as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Adam</p>
<p>Meanwhile,  Jones is making it interesting as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon Jonesy, we&#039;ve had enough bullpen drama tonight.  Quit messing with us and put this one away.

Cinci now up 10-4 over Cleveland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Jonesy, we&#8217;ve had enough bullpen drama tonight.  Quit messing with us and put this one away.</p>
<p>Cinci now up 10-4 over Cleveland.</p>
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