Comments on: A different look at Zumaya’s outing http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by pitcher « Fast Balls http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-67936 Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by pitcher « Fast Balls Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:13:58 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-67936 [...] On April 13, Bill Ferris published “A Different Look at Zumaya’s Outing”, an article about velocity and relaease point in Joel Zumaya’s two-inning save on April 12th.   [...] [...] On April 13, Bill Ferris published “A Different Look at Zumaya’s Outing”, an article about velocity and relaease point in Joel Zumaya’s two-inning save on April 12th.   [...]

]]> By: Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by author « Fast Balls http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-67923 Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by author « Fast Balls Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:35:45 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-67923 [...] On April 13, he published “A Different Look at Zumaya’s Outing”, an article about velocity and relaease point in Joel Zumaya’s two-inning save on April 12th. [...] [...] On April 13, he published “A Different Look at Zumaya’s Outing”, an article about velocity and relaease point in Joel Zumaya’s two-inning save on April 12th. [...]

]]> By: Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by date « Fast Balls http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-67916 Enhanced Gameday analysis cataloged by date « Fast Balls Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:07:03 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-67916 [...] On April 13, Bill Ferris published “A Different Look at Zumaya’s Outing”, an article about velocity and relaease point in Joel Zumaya’s two-inning save on April 12th. [...] [...] On April 13, Bill Ferris published “A Different Look at Zumaya’s Outing”, an article about velocity and relaease point in Joel Zumaya’s two-inning save on April 12th. [...]

]]> By: Catalog of Enhanced Gameday analysis « Fast Balls http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-62269 Catalog of Enhanced Gameday analysis « Fast Balls Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:32:43 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-62269 [...] On April 13, he published “A Different Look at Zumaya’s Outing”, an article about velocity and relaease point in Joel Zumaya’s two-inning save on April 12th. [...] [...] On April 13, he published “A Different Look at Zumaya’s Outing”, an article about velocity and relaease point in Joel Zumaya’s two-inning save on April 12th. [...]

]]> By: The Detroit Tiger Weblog » Blog Archive » A different look at Andrew Miller http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-58466 The Detroit Tiger Weblog » Blog Archive » A different look at Andrew Miller Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:29:16 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-58466 [...] On Sunday, June 24th Andrew Miller took center stage on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball and promptly pitched 6 shut out innings. Miller only allowed 4 hits and 2 walks and was never really threatened. Was this a dominant performance by a young stud pitcher, or just another day at the office for the slumping Braves? I don’t know if we can really say one way or the other, but with enhanced gameday data we can at least get some additional information. If you are a new reader, MLB’s new gameday has a series of cameras set up in 8 major league parks that captures pitch speed, location, trajectory, and release point. I’ve used this data to look at Joel Zumaya and Jeremy Bonderman in the past. Others have looked at the consistency in data between parks, how pitches sink, and a variety of other studies. But back to the task at hand. [...] [...] On Sunday, June 24th Andrew Miller took center stage on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball and promptly pitched 6 shut out innings. Miller only allowed 4 hits and 2 walks and was never really threatened. Was this a dominant performance by a young stud pitcher, or just another day at the office for the slumping Braves? I don’t know if we can really say one way or the other, but with enhanced gameday data we can at least get some additional information. If you are a new reader, MLB’s new gameday has a series of cameras set up in 8 major league parks that captures pitch speed, location, trajectory, and release point. I’ve used this data to look at Joel Zumaya and Jeremy Bonderman in the past. Others have looked at the consistency in data between parks, how pitches sink, and a variety of other studies. But back to the task at hand. [...]

]]> By: The Detroit Tiger Weblog » Blog Archive » Comparing Zumaya http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-54148 The Detroit Tiger Weblog » Blog Archive » Comparing Zumaya Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:05:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-54148 [...] A couple weeks ago we took a look at Joel Zumaya’s 2 inning save against Toronto through the eyes of MLB.com’s Enhanced Gameday. Last night against the White Sox Zumaya had an outing on the opposite end of the effectiveness spectrum. [...] [...] A couple weeks ago we took a look at Joel Zumaya’s 2 inning save against Toronto through the eyes of MLB.com’s Enhanced Gameday. Last night against the White Sox Zumaya had an outing on the opposite end of the effectiveness spectrum. [...]

]]> By: Chop-n-Change | MVN - Most Valuable Network » Blog Archive » Chop Links: 17th April http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53342 Chop-n-Change | MVN - Most Valuable Network » Blog Archive » Chop Links: 17th April Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:59:11 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53342 [...] This  is a pretty cool analysis of Joel Zumaya’s pitching using Enhanced Gameday data … I’d like to see this for the Braves [...] [...] This  is a pretty cool analysis of Joel Zumaya’s pitching using Enhanced Gameday data … I’d like to see this for the Braves [...]

]]> By: Chris J http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53227 Chris J Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:52:04 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53227 Awesome stuff. Reminds you of how special this kid is. Awesome stuff. Reminds you of how special this kid is.

]]> By: The Detroit Tiger Weblog » Blog Archive » A different look at the Bonderman-Halladay Duel http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53173 The Detroit Tiger Weblog » Blog Archive » A different look at the Bonderman-Halladay Duel Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:10:46 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53173 [...] Both pitchers achieved nearly identical results, but did so with different arsenals. It was a joy to watch, even with an unfortunate ending for the Tigers. Related: A different look at Joel Zumaya’s Save [...] [...] Both pitchers achieved nearly identical results, but did so with different arsenals. It was a joy to watch, even with an unfortunate ending for the Tigers. Related: A different look at Joel Zumaya’s Save [...]

]]> By: Jason http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53162 Jason Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:50:22 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53162 Zumaya's changeup is around 88-90 mph, and no speeds are in that range his fastest curve was 85 mph. However can you send me a link to that particular xml file? You got two readings of 103 mph, but there didn't appear to be any at 103 mph on the gameday. Also can you send me the xml file from 10/10/2006, when Zumaya pitched against the Athletics in the ALCS? Thanks man. Zumaya’s changeup is around 88-90 mph, and no speeds are in that range his fastest curve was 85 mph.

However can you send me a link to that particular xml file? You got two readings of 103 mph, but there didn’t appear to be any at 103 mph on the gameday.
Also can you send me the xml file from 10/10/2006, when Zumaya pitched against the Athletics in the ALCS?

Thanks man.

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53116 billfer Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:55:24 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53116 Doug and Jeff - As I said, this is the first Tigers game with enhanced game day so I only have data for those who pitched last night. There will be more analyses like this coming through out the season, so hopefully will all learn something along the way. Charlie - all the data is available in XML files on MLB's site. To build the database you need to spider the data and then parse the xml. Mike R - May have been a mis-nomer on my part in terms of the non-fastballs. I lumped everything that wasn't a fastball into one category. The break is also measured, but I haven't delved into that yet. Lee - yep, this is the stuff. Ben, the one way out of the strike zone was to Gregg Zaun. Doug and Jeff – As I said, this is the first Tigers game with enhanced game day so I only have data for those who pitched last night. There will be more analyses like this coming through out the season, so hopefully will all learn something along the way.

Charlie – all the data is available in XML files on MLB’s site. To build the database you need to spider the data and then parse the xml.

Mike R – May have been a mis-nomer on my part in terms of the non-fastballs. I lumped everything that wasn’t a fastball into one category. The break is also measured, but I haven’t delved into that yet.

Lee – yep, this is the stuff.

Ben, the one way out of the strike zone was to Gregg Zaun.

]]> By: Jeff M http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53105 Jeff M Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:08:54 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53105 I'll echo Doug. That release point graph needs to be compared to other pitchers. Feet? Zoom out to yards and even Hideo Nomo's release point would be a single dot. Release point is a game of inches, so that graph can't be considered conclusive. I love the accuracy and off-speed stuff though! :) I’ll echo Doug. That release point graph needs to be compared to other pitchers. Feet? Zoom out to yards and even Hideo Nomo’s release point would be a single dot. Release point is a game of inches, so that graph can’t be considered conclusive.

I love the accuracy and off-speed stuff though! :)

]]> By: Charlie Szymanski http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53104 Charlie Szymanski Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:47:48 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53104 Bilfer, is this data available on the MLB site somewhere as a database, or did you hand-enter those things one at a time? Could be fun to play with... Bilfer, is this data available on the MLB site somewhere as a database, or did you hand-enter those things one at a time? Could be fun to play with…

]]> By: Lee Panas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53102 Lee Panas Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:10:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53102 So this is the stuff you were working on this winter that you did not get to show us? This is awesome stuff. It will be great when some day all the games will be in this kind of format. Lee So this is the stuff you were working on this winter that you did not get to show us? This is awesome stuff. It will be great when some day all the games will be in this kind of format.

Lee

]]> By: Mike R http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53101 Mike R Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:00:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/04/a-different-look-at-zumayas-outing/#comment-53101 Also, seeing the 7 breaking balls in 20 pitches makes me wish he'd utilize his changeup more then he does. He was voted by Baseball America as having the best change in the entire organization back in 2005 i think it was. And with Verlander's change being highly touted around the same time they were in the minors together, that's impressive. Also, seeing the 7 breaking balls in 20 pitches makes me wish he’d utilize his changeup more then he does. He was voted by Baseball America as having the best change in the entire organization back in 2005 i think it was. And with Verlander’s change being highly touted around the same time they were in the minors together, that’s impressive.

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