Comments on: Tigers announce 10 more cuts http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:35:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Dave T. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-52014 Dave T. Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:40:00 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-52014 I doubt anyone would be willing to accept Maggs' contract. By Leyland's admission Maybin is a few years away. Shelton is the ace in the hole at first base. I think one of the relievers might get shipped. Chad Durbin might be on his way to Pittsburgh or Tampa or any other marginal to bad team in desperate need of another starter. I doubt anyone would be willing to accept Maggs’ contract. By Leyland’s admission Maybin is a few years away. Shelton is the ace in the hole at first base. I think one of the relievers might get shipped. Chad Durbin might be on his way to Pittsburgh or Tampa or any other marginal to bad team in desperate need of another starter.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-52007 David Wed, 21 Mar 2007 03:30:54 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-52007 No, I agree with you, he probably would not produce as well as Monroe or Ordonez in '07, but I think he will eventually produce better. Plus his arm is fantastic and his range is better than both of theirs. We could put platoon Infante and Shef or do a variety of things. My main points are: 1) We have a good # of outfield prospects 2) We have a lack of infield prospects (mainly SS, 2nd and catcher) that need to be adressed. 3) Both Maggs and Monroe in my mind were so-so to bad fielders. 4) Monroe seemed to "give up" after he fell behind and would strikeout, his power has not changed much in the last 3 years, and his average has dropped the last 2 years. Also on somewhat of a side note I think to be competitive we need someone fast, I would trade those 2 for Carl Crawford and a so-so prospect in a heartbeat. We need to play more small ball for our team to be more consistantly sucessful with getting runs on the board. Although we had streches last year where we would score 4+ runs, the year before and the year before that etc. we would tend to be very inconsistant offensively. I'm afraid of returning to that, and I think the only way to avoid that is to have a guy at the top who can get on base, steal second and put himself in scoring position every other AB which should guarantee about 2 runs/game. Although Monroe stole 50 bases when he was 21 and 40 when he was 22 (he hit .242 and .260 at Charlotte), he doesn't steal hardly any anymore. I forget but I think he has some sort of problem (knee?) or something... Also Maggs transformed from somewhat of a better all-around player (31 hrs, 25 SB) almost a 30-30 guy which was nuts, to a guy who hit 34 hrs and stole just one base in just under 900 ab (898) while wearing the Old English D on his chest. Personally I hope and think that he will be more pull-happy this year which will make me happy, and hopefully he can steal 10 bags. Please MAGGS steal some Baggs!!! Still I think that people who just started following the Tigers overestimate their value, there are many heavy-hitting outfielders, the speed and defense seperate the average from the good or good from great... Rant ended! No, I agree with you, he probably would not produce as well as Monroe or Ordonez in ‘07, but I think he will eventually produce better. Plus his arm is fantastic and his range is better than both of theirs. We could put platoon Infante and Shef or do a variety of things.

My main points are:
1) We have a good # of outfield prospects
2) We have a lack of infield prospects (mainly SS, 2nd and catcher) that need to be adressed.
3) Both Maggs and Monroe in my mind were so-so to bad fielders.
4) Monroe seemed to “give up” after he fell behind and would strikeout, his power has not changed much in the last 3 years, and his average has dropped the last 2 years.

Also on somewhat of a side note I think to be competitive we need someone fast, I would trade those 2 for Carl Crawford and a so-so prospect in a heartbeat. We need to play more small ball for our team to be more consistantly sucessful with getting runs on the board.

Although we had streches last year where we would score 4+ runs, the year before and the year before that etc. we would tend to be very inconsistant offensively. I’m afraid of returning to that, and I think the only way to avoid that is to have a guy at the top who can get on base, steal second and put himself in scoring position every other AB which should guarantee about 2 runs/game.

Although Monroe stole 50 bases when he was 21 and 40 when he was 22 (he hit .242 and .260 at Charlotte), he doesn’t steal hardly any anymore. I forget but I think he has some sort of problem (knee?) or something…

Also Maggs transformed from somewhat of a better all-around player (31 hrs, 25 SB) almost a 30-30 guy which was nuts, to a guy who hit 34 hrs and stole just one base in just under 900 ab (898) while wearing the Old English D on his chest.

Personally I hope and think that he will be more pull-happy this year which will make me happy, and hopefully he can steal 10 bags. Please MAGGS steal some Baggs!!!

Still I think that people who just started following the Tigers overestimate their value, there are many heavy-hitting outfielders, the speed and defense seperate the average from the good or good from great…

Rant ended!

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-52004 billfer Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:14:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-52004 I just don't see Clevlen as viable depth at this point. Sure he had 39 at-bats with some success (and 15 K's) with the Tigers, but that doesn't negate the other 395 ABs he had where he slugged 357 in a hitters park. He struck out in about one out of every 3 at-bats last year. Even considering defense I don't see anything to suggest he could produce as well as Monroe or Ordonez. I just don’t see Clevlen as viable depth at this point. Sure he had 39 at-bats with some success (and 15 K’s) with the Tigers, but that doesn’t negate the other 395 ABs he had where he slugged 357 in a hitters park. He struck out in about one out of every 3 at-bats last year. Even considering defense I don’t see anything to suggest he could produce as well as Monroe or Ordonez.

]]> By: Scott http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-52001 Scott Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:55:46 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-52001 I'd like to see 'em dump Neifi Perez...in my mind, he's less than worthless. I watched the Tigers play the Jays last Saturday - Maybin's bat looked pretty good (I remember a HR and a 3B), but his arm looked pretty weak out there - he was in CF....man on first....base hit to center....runner EASILY beats his throw to third. Both Maggs and Raburn have much better arms than him. I’d like to see ‘em dump Neifi Perez…in my mind, he’s less than worthless. I watched the Tigers play the Jays last Saturday - Maybin’s bat looked pretty good (I remember a HR and a 3B), but his arm looked pretty weak out there - he was in CF….man on first….base hit to center….runner EASILY beats his throw to third. Both Maggs and Raburn have much better arms than him.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51999 David Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:45:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51999 If anyone gets traded it unfortunatly would be Marcus. IF I were in Dombrowski's shoes I would look for any way possible to trade Monroe and/or Ordonez. I know it won't happen, but we have alot of outfield depth and those two are just hogging up those spots for younger guys. Even though Monroe was clutch last year (yanks, white sox, 7th inn. or l8r etc.) outfielders like him are a dime a dozon. Maybe pawn him off on the Nats for 2 good prospects, and dump Maggs off with the Angels for Sean Rodriguez and Maicer Izturis , we need MI badly. Again I know it won't happen due to the contract, everyones love for those 2, wanting to win now (although I think that Thames and Clevlen wouldn't be that bad)... If anyone gets traded it unfortunatly would be Marcus.

IF I were in Dombrowski’s shoes I would look for any way possible to trade Monroe and/or Ordonez.

I know it won’t happen, but we have alot of outfield depth and those two are just hogging up those spots for younger guys.

Even though Monroe was clutch last year (yanks, white sox, 7th inn. or l8r etc.) outfielders like him are a dime a dozon. Maybe pawn him off on the Nats for 2 good prospects, and dump Maggs off with the Angels for Sean Rodriguez and Maicer Izturis , we need MI badly.

Again I know it won’t happen due to the contract, everyones love for those 2, wanting to win now (although I think that Thames and Clevlen wouldn’t be that bad)…

]]> By: Dave T. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51998 Dave T. Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:40:51 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51998 Any bets on who (if anyone) gets traded before opening day? Neifi's trade value will only go down once the regular season starts. Any bets on who (if anyone) gets traded before opening day? Neifi’s trade value will only go down once the regular season starts.

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51995 billfer Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:48:40 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51995 If Inge is going to slump, I'd just assume it be now when things don't matter. If he's still hit a buck-fifty come May then I'll be concerned. No amount of defense can make up for that. As for Maybin, I know we're all anxious to see him, but isn't it nice for a change to not have to see him? If this were 2003 or 2004 he'd be a starter. Instead he gets to do all his learning at the minor league level, where his service clock doesn't start ticking until the Tigers actually need him. If Inge is going to slump, I’d just assume it be now when things don’t matter. If he’s still hit a buck-fifty come May then I’ll be concerned. No amount of defense can make up for that.

As for Maybin, I know we’re all anxious to see him, but isn’t it nice for a change to not have to see him? If this were 2003 or 2004 he’d be a starter. Instead he gets to do all his learning at the minor league level, where his service clock doesn’t start ticking until the Tigers actually need him.

]]> By: Eric Jackson http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51987 Eric Jackson Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:26:34 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51987 Sheffield has a .422 OBP though, he is delivering. Sheffield has a .422 OBP though, he is delivering.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51986 David Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:32:21 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51986 Not concerned at all, its ST, if he hits .158 in April I might feel alittle different. Mauer is hitting .226, Iguchi is hitting .156 Heck Guillen is hitting .222 and Shef .219, while they might not all start out well out of the gate each one is a professional hitter and ST is just practice and a warm up. Not concerned at all, its ST, if he hits .158 in April I might feel alittle different.

Mauer is hitting .226, Iguchi is hitting .156 Heck Guillen is hitting .222 and Shef .219, while they might not all start out well out of the gate each one is a professional hitter and ST is just practice and a warm up.

]]> By: Chris Y. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51985 Chris Y. Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:27:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/tigers-announce-10-more-cuts/#comment-51985 .158, I'd say he's right about mid-season form! .158, I’d say he’s right about mid-season form!

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